Inner Struggles: Conclusions of a New Born Man

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I agree with Titus to some extent.

Society is Bull****. Most of the people are bull****. But this is earth, take it or leave it.

Instead of talking about where the road ends, id agree that it doesnt end at all, but what matters is, WHAT TYPE OF ROAD is it?

If u live a simple life and dont push yourself, you seem to "fit in", you are just walking on a plain desert, not getting anywhere, but draining your life little by little.

On the other hand, if you push yourself, you do what you love, you dont follow but lead, your road is one of a mountain climber, you meet challanges all the time, but once you get through, and you are on top, you feel better than anyone in this world.

So do not be afraid of a harder and tougher road, dont settle for a safe path that wastes your life away. Set your mind for greatness, and take off.
 

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Originally posted by Bjon
What is you're problem? You act like there is a conspriacy going on. Like everyone is out to hurt you and decieve you. Do you not know that there is any good in this world? I just don't get how someone can be like you. I belive my mom. She has learned a lot from her experiences. Why would she try to lure me astray? That's not what she is doing. She is just giving me advice to become a better person.

Titus, you need to get a grip on things and start trusting other people. People are not natually evil. They're naturally good. People need to take other people's opinions and learn from them. Even if you don't agree with it doesn't mean you can't learn anything from it.
Oh, dear, I seem to dislike and distrust everyone, do i?
Well, kid, here's the truth. Nobody is out to get me or get you, there is no conspiracy going on, people are not naturaly evil and the world is a wonderful place. Yes. All true and snug as a bug in a rug. But let me tell you the final detail.
You have been lied to all of your life, you are living a lie and you most porbably will continou to live it. Your momma, your poppa, your neigbours, your teachers, your school, your friends, your whole society and everything you know is a lie. That is the truth. No conspiracy here, it is all well known fact and it was not made like that with the intention of hurting anyone. It is all a product of society.
So... in the end, you can say that your momma lied to you. Not on purpose, of course. Her momma and her poppa lied to her too, as it goes on and on...
 

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Originally posted by Titus
Oh, dear, I seem to dislike and distrust everyone, do i?
Well, kid, here's the truth. Nobody is out to get me or get you, there is no conspiracy going on, people are not naturaly evil and the world is a wonderful place. Yes. All true and snug as a bug in a rug. But let me tell you the final detail.
You have been lied to all of your life, you are living a lie and you most porbably will continou to live it. Your momma, your poppa, your neigbours, your teachers, your school, your friends, your whole society and everything you know is a lie. That is the truth. No conspiracy here, it is all well known fact and it was not made like that with the intention of hurting anyone. It is all a product of society.
So... in the end, you can say that your momma lied to you. Not on purpose, of course. Her momma and her poppa lied to her too, as it goes on and on...
Anytime I read your posts, I always have "The Twighlight Zone" song playing in my head for some reason...Ok, so if everyone lies to you, and there is no conspiracy, then what is it? Another ramble of bull from you?
 

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good call crazykid, what is the idea then titus?
 

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Originally posted by crazykid
Anytime I read your posts, I always have "The Twighlight Zone" song playing in my head for some reason...Ok, so if everyone lies to you, and there is no conspiracy, then what is it? Another ramble of bull from you?

" There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone. "


;)


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Originally posted by Brazilian_Blues_Boy
" There is a fifth dimension beyond that which is known to man. It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. It is the middle ground between light and shadow, between science and superstition, and it lies between the pit of man's fears and the summit of his knowledge. This is the dimension of imagination. It is an area which we call the Twilight Zone. "


;)


BBB
Didn't know Ron Steiger was on this board. :D
 

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I have already explained it all, many times, and have no need of doing it again.
 

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Originally posted by Brazilian_Blues_Boy

" ... if you like that girl man, go there and try! Have you tried? Are you whining because you called her 5 times, asked her out, talked to all of her friends, waited some time, then tried again, it didn't work, then you waited more time and it still didn't work out?

Or haven't you REALLY TRIED yet?
You have to try man... if you want her badly, persist! Try to kiss her 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 times !!
And in the meanwhile, don't abandon the other girls... try with 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 other girls too !!
You're giving up too easily... whenever I wanted a girl so bad, I tried 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10 times... and you know what?
Sometimes they were all nos... but the eleventh was a YES.

So, are you really determined? Are you willing to do whatever it takes, and to have patience and to continue living and meeting new women, or are you gonna just sit there, and cry like a sissy girl?
There's no such thing as trying too much, when you know HOW to try... Real persistence will give you success man... if you really like her, then persist !! Wait !! What is better, getting her 2 months for now, or ruining everything and never getting her??
Try MAN !! Feel the real determination inside you... if that's what you want so much... then persist as much as you want her... "
That's exactly what I needed to hear right now, BBB.
Too long of a situation to explain, but I'm gonna take this stuff to heart.

You're never gonna know how much this helped me out.:) I owe ya one.
 

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Originally posted by Titus
I have already explained it all, many times, and have no need of doing it again.
That's interesting, because everytime I read something from you, all I see is "bitch bitch bitch, I am God, you suck."
 

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Originally posted by crazykid
That's interesting, because everytime I read something from you, all I see is "bitch bitch bitch, I am God, you suck."
Crazy, that is just what you have chosen as the main spotlight of all of my posts. It is entirely your own decision how you percieve things around you, with expectations, or without them. Eh, i am repeating myself again. I already told you that one, some time ago.
 

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This is quoted from STR8UP from another post.
"Too many people get caught up in how unfair the world is. The intricacies of human interaction have been shaped by thousands of years of evolution and they aren't going to change anytime soon at the whim of one person who wishes to not have to follow the rules of engagement."
I think this fits Titus exactly. But there is much more to it than that...

Titus:
Soon, trees, flowers, streams and running around is not enough to satisfy us anymore. It is replaced with wanting to know, learn, have and to no end. We want only more and more, and never to stop.
Okay, this is called ambition, and there's nothing wrong with that. I have to say, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. Not being happy with what we already have, and always wanting more - this is linked to self-esteem!

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See it as a spectrum. On one end there is too much ambition, "wanting more and more and never to stop", instead of appreciating what we already have. Then, on the other end, there is none or not enough ambition, having no goals, not striving for anything. Both are bad, and both have to do with an individual's self-esteem. You want to be in the middle. Here's some great advice: "Everything in moderation, even moderation itself."

"And this is where our true "us" is covered with allkinds of crap, like "i'm a communist, i'm a christian, i'm a hippy, i'm a DJ, i'm an AFC..." and this is where masks, being afraid of our true self and compressing of our emotions steps in.
So you are saying our true self (like when we were a child) is starting be masked by a facade. Again, SPEAK FOR YOURSELF. This all has to do with an individual's self-esteem.

Doing things for a purpose, to reach a goal, is wrong. It is again, a thing that we are tought. Strive! Climb! Fight! The light at the end of the tunnel is near! Just a little more! But it's not... we always expect an end of the road somewhere, but i have already said where it ends.
So what is there to do? Nothing else but to do what a child does. Do things without a purpose. If you have a hobby, something you like doing without thinking of what it will bring you or when it ends, then you have found gold. That is when our kid in us steps out and we are truly happy. Without a realy reson.
You bring up an interesting point. You say fighting for something, reaching for goals is wrong. Well, you are only seeing half the picture here.

You say it's wrong because there is no end, because it's pointless. Why strive for goals if it's all pointless right? BUT then you say, just do things WITHOUT a purpose. So you are telling us to not strive for goals because they are pointless, but INSTEAD to be like a kid, to do pointless things that make us FEEL good.

But you must realize, there is much difference between HAPPINESS and PLEASURE. Will this really make you happy? Maybe. But is this even achievable in reality? How can you do this without making a living?

Sounds to me like you are just some punk kid with no sense of reality. I say this because in reality, you actually have to do things to survive. Well, in your reality you probably already have survival covered, most likely from your parents. So you are able to survive. But are you really LIVING, or are you just staying alive? Are you actually HAPPY?

Read the very first quote again. The world, is unfair, sure. Society is corrupt/full of sh1t and blah blah blah. Big deal, get over it. You can choose one option or the other. Adaption is one option. The other is death. But since you already are able to survive, you won't die if you choose to not "get with the program". You just won't really be "LIVING".

I pretty much just went off on a huge tangent though to show that this "philosophy" is full of sh1t, although you guys probably figured that out by yourselves. Some aspects that he mentions are good, but on the whole it's flawed, which almost any extremist view will be. And as for Titus, his problem lies in self-esteem. I know I didn't explain much, but the book "Six Pillars of Self-Esteem" (EVERYONE MUST READ THIS!) by Nathaniel Branden goes a lot more in depth into this, and I wouldn't be able to explain it as good, so buy the book or check it out from a library. It's definately worth the read.
 

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