****ing Fake... Take your mask off

[JHeights83rd]

A lot of the DJism and living on some type of self proclaimed alpha male fantasy above the rest of the male population is leaving people delusional. Don’t believe the hype, your subconscious mind changes when your surroundings change. (This means that if you tell urself a lie long enough, its not eventually gonna come true)

Its really like the idea of social mask, (I learned in acting for non-majors class). A lot of comedian type guys wear a mask, they don’t be themselves, act how they really want. Their mentality is “I like to make people laugh” so they wear the mask so everybody can see them as a funny guy. The mask is on for so long that you don’t know when it comes on and when it comes off. When a girl starts hope your way, that ****ll come right off and shell see how weak you are under it.
We wear this social mask of the DJ. One example of this is when you get a girl’s digits, you play the wait 7 whole days game. “Wow! This guy must be on this AM status, omg hes so busy and hes not calling me, I wonder where he is, I have to have him.” Yeah right. It’s a big mask you wear, when youre trying to run game on this girl, so she sees this am guy that busts out confidence; and you really just run that **** on yourself. Another example of this is so called confidence, most people in this world are not truly confident in themselves, they gots lots of insecurities, but their getting their fair share of the ass. With C + F, youre putting on a mask of David D. With the prize mentality. Another is “Well, I don’t wanna be supplicating”

Gotta do some self exploration and find out a little bit more of who you are. See how you act in certain situations. I used to soak up this dj AM fantasy mentality but its so fake. Do some self exploration, alone, and also see how you react to situations with others. Get in touch with your real masculinity.

But im not gonna act like im all holier than thou b/c I have a lot of my own problems too. People on my block still know me as that guy with all the girl problems, and I still haven’t hit it off with girls that I click with. And honestly, all the play that ive never gotten, and everybody else is getting, takes away from my focus on more important stuff. I wanna focus but cant, I never really had any passion for life, b/c I hated my childhood to death. Its my ego that really wants to get fed. Plus I have this big fear that ill never get any play, and ill be like 30 yrs old, everybody else is focused on making that money and ima just be not really focused, my mind really in trying to have some fun that I didn’t have. But anyway im doing some self exploration to try to overcome all things mentioned in this paragraph. But yeah self exploration plus take a look some of the stupid **** you believed when youre brain was in the AM fantasy.

 

[Dayum itz jee]

Get out.. Just get the hell out.. No seriously.. Leave.. and take everything you got with you..

 

[ima str8 up pimp]

I think I already beat you to this one, you're right on the money I totally agree with you. :yes: . I posted this like 2 maybe 3 days ago.

ima str8 up pimp
Don Juan


Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 72

Here's how to be a REAL PLAYER, read this and be a pimp

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Okay first I'm going to be honest and say that yes, this is definetly an ego booster for me, but this will also put all of you losers in your places, and all of you "senior, and master" "donjuans" that THINK you know what you're doing but really, you're still just scared PUSSIEES.

Ahhh ya know what I dont even know if I want to post this shhhhiiit because 3/4 of you idiots will STILL not listen to me, and go off in your idiot ways.
Okay here we go. For starters, so y'all have no doubts in me, I'm currenty "messing with 5 girls", and well one I actually have developed feelings for, but that's another story on it's own. At 16 I was hooking up with 20 yr olds, and not just one. Hmm one had a tongue ring, I can still remember that shyt lol .

Okay here are EXTREMELY VALID POINTERS:
1. This website generalizes women, each person is their own, women are human just like you and me, you asswholes. You cant generalize them, EVERYONE IS AN INDIVIDUAL
2. FEAR. Need I say more? You must just go for ****, attack and handle those broads, just be sexual and friendly mang. memorizing book lines for pick ups is very very weird, and is A SIGN OF FEAR. Think about it. SAYING YOU DONT KNOW WHAT MOVES TO MAKE WHEN IN FACT YOU LOSERS DO, YOU'RE JUST SCARED OF REJECTION.
3. Last, and I'm sorry to whoever this may offend but it's for the best. This site is incredibly misleading when in fact **** is sooooo very simple. Mr. DeAngelo is feeding off of men's insecurities. Y'all are trying to be a bunch of super players when in fact its sooo terribly easy. He's basicallly saying "Attraction is a very mystifying and unbelievable thing and women love it and you dont have it, you need to buy my book and learn about it if you ever want to get laid." BULL****!!!! I just want to stick up for yall.

4. Last but not least. Looks matter fools, that is sooo very obvious and easy to point out. Only a delusional retard believes the other way.

I work with what I have to get what I want to make me happy and it isn't always alot, but hell in this case, my girls make me happy and fufilled in life.

Okay now I want some feedback.

 

[Luke Skywalker]

A lot of the DJism and living on some type of self proclaimed alpha male fantasy above the rest of the male population is leaving people delusional. Don’t believe the hype, your subconscious mind changes when your surroundings change. (This means that if you tell urself a lie long enough, its not eventually gonna come true)

Hey, have you *tried* out any of the DJ stuff or theories? You know, I've never knocked down something I never personally tried myself. Although, I may not be fully into them, I do hold out the possibility they MAY work, if my other set-ups on HTSWW prove faulty.

Its really like the idea of social mask, (I learned in acting for non-majors class). A lot of comedian type guys wear a mask, they don’t be themselves, act how they really want. Their mentality is “I like to make people laugh” so they wear the mask so everybody can see them as a funny guy. The mask is on for so long that you don’t know when it comes on and when it comes off. When a girl starts hope your way, that ****ll come right off and shell see how weak you are under it.

So, what's wrong with a mask if it works? If it doesn't work, then don't wear a mask? Trial and error. Some ideas work better on some people other ideas work better than others.

We wear this social mask of the DJ. One example of this is when you get a girl’s digits, you play the wait 7 whole days game. “Wow! This guy must be on this AM status, omg hes so busy and hes not calling me, I wonder where he is, I have to have him.” Yeah right. It’s a big mask you wear, when youre trying to run game on this girl, so she sees this am guy that busts out confidence; and you really just run that **** on yourself.

Just because you get a number doesn't mean you have to call it. You call it whenever you want to call it. If she's very interested, you call back right away, partially 24-48 hours, otherwise longer, right?

I dont know if 'mask' or 'posturing' is a better term. EVERYONE postures themselves in virtually every interaction. Are you advocating people should wear their heart on their sleeve or something, that's dumb.

Another example of this is so called confidence, most people in this world are not truly confident in themselves, they gots lots of insecurities, but their getting their fair share of the ass. With C + F, youre putting on a mask of David D. With the prize mentality. Another is “Well, I don’t wanna be supplicating”

The way must be tried. If what you are doing is not working, try a different approach. If it is working, then congratulations.

Gotta do some self exploration and find out a little bit more of who you are. See how you act in certain situations. I used to soak up this dj AM fantasy mentality but its so fake. Do some self exploration, alone, and also see how you react to situations with others. Get in touch with your real masculinity.

That's right.

But im not gonna act like im all holier than thou b/c I have a lot of my own problems too. People on my block still know me as that guy with all the girl problems, and I still haven’t hit it off with girls that I click with. And honestly, all the play that ive never gotten, and everybody else is getting, takes away from my focus on more important stuff. I wanna focus but cant, I never really had any passion for life, b/c I hated my childhood to death. Its my ego that really wants to get fed. Plus I have this big fear that ill never get any play, and ill be like 30 yrs old, everybody else is focused on making that money and ima just be not really focused, my mind really in trying to have some fun that I didn’t have. But anyway im doing some self exploration to try to overcome all things mentioned in this paragraph. But yeah self exploration plus take a look some of the stupid **** you believed when youre brain was in the AM fantasy.

You'll end up like me, I'm 30 y/o. You have to do what works for you.
If AM is not you, then you'll get all that stuff in your head, do nothing, and waste time. Do what works.

 

[JHeights83rd]

str8uppimp my bad, if i bit off yours, I didnt see it. I was gonna start off with saying some other **** but its good right.

 

[BrownOreo]

I think the mask is the wearer evolving, and the ppl left behind grumbling about it.

 

[KoalaKing]

David DeAngelo says some great things, but a lot of very bad things as well, the best thing I discovered whilst reading his "Double Your Dating" e-booklet was his stuff about affirming positive thoughts and beleifs into your subconscious mind, I have done this, it works.

He like most other self help dating gurus lie by their saying that good looks in guys are not important to the hottest babes, when they definately are, surely any idiot can see this, when girls swarm around hunks such as, Brad Pitt, Tom Cruise, etc.

The other negative point about, David DeAngelo, is his, ****y and Funny theory, the telephone numbers, and a lot of the other crap that many of you believe will turn you into the perfect AlphaMale.

It is important to have charisma, speak powerfully, as well as having a King or I'm the Prize type of personality, yet be an individual at the same time, not just the clone of a guy who writes some dating book.

The key is to enjoy your life, try to be the best that you can in all things, and approach the hot babes in a manner that you feel comfortable with, but also in your very own individual way.

You have to be able to accept the fact that not every hot babe will desire to be with you, and continue to approach them with confidence after you have been rejected by many of them.

Although there is some truth in these dating guides, it is all basic psychology that all of the previous self help gurus have preached over the years.

These guys want your money, the ugliest and nerdiest guys want to be fu-cking the hottest babes, so they will pay out big money to read these lies, it is just a sad fact of life. :yes:

 

[Dannyrt34]

I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. For one, I KNOW that confidence definitley helps alot with attracting women. Confidence is also something that has nothing to do with wearing a mask, you can still be who you are, but be who you are with CONFIDENCE.

Another big thing is not being afraid to risk it all. How many AFC's are afraid to get a little TOO flirty with a new girl their with? How many AFC's are afraid to go for that kiss? Alot, if not all of them! Which is why they end up kicking themselves in the ass after a date. If the girl likes you at all, she'll LOVE the fact that you are being flirty. If the girl likes you at all, you WILL get tjat kiss. But if you don't even try, that leaves you with nothing. Just remember, if she don't respond well when you flirt, or go for a kiss, chances are she don't even like you anyway. But at least NOW YOU KNOW. So you might as well move on. But how would you ever even know this if you don't take these risks? How would you ever know if she is REALLY into you? YOU WOULDN'T! Because you never even tried.

And lastly, that whole waiting to call thing, that's where I do agree with you. I actually think girls responded even better when I called after only a short period of time. And it never really worked against me either. I never had a girl become uninterested because I called too soon.

 

[JHeights83rd]

Prancing around on AM status

+ For the record, like i said in the 1st post, im far from the top dawg on my block. Ive always had girl problems. I always had problems with when people say "make a move, dun be scared." For me, i have to figure out how to g it up or 'make the move,' or 'go for it' i used to come here to try to get help but people just say --> DJ Bible. I read DJ Bible it never helped me, so i go back to read some of Wyldfire's posts. shes got some good stuff.

First of all, ive asked a couple of psychiatrists about this... You cannot 'program' your subconscious mind. YOur subcon mind takes in stuff in the environment that your conscious mind does not. But your conscious mind could change negative perceptions to positive, but it doesnt go to subconscious until something positive happens. Think about this: if you bet Michael Jordan 1 g that ull beat him in ball, in a 1 on 1 game, that you play tomorrow. But you gass yourself up with 'confidence.' The confidence is fake because its based on your ego inflating.


But now, most attention goes to posters saying stuff like 'got the secret right here to getting puss' 'Tips to show hbs more confidence and get more chicks to bed.' I have no problem with these posts, its just that it makes some people believe in this AM status a little too much. Like "i see an afc, since i am an AM let me do my AM duty and take his girl away; only a djs deserve to have a girl."

I got more for yall to think about later

 

[Dannyrt34]

I agree with you, but only to a certain extent. For one, I KNOW that confidence definitley helps alot with attracting women.

Another big thing is not being afraid to risk it all.

Read my last post again, and THINK ABOUT IT, those 2 things above are nearly the same thing. Are you basically saying you can't change the way you think? Or that you need to act like somebody else to get girls? Well maybe you can't change the way you think, but you don't have to ACT like somebody else. I don't follow the DJ rules to a T, because lots of them don't work for me. The one that did work is the whole NOT BEING AFRAID TO RISK IT ALL. After I just put in some effort and started talking sexual and seductive to girls, it made ALL the difference. But I NEVER memorized lines, I did it in my own style. That's one major thing you need to be able to do, forget about changing the way you think and stuff.

 

[belividere]

Jheights,

I do agree with most of what you have already said. We have both spent about the same amount of time on this forum, and since I first joined up one of the quickest things to jump out at me was that guys here think that just because they have found this website that they are suddenly better with ladies than the rest of the general public. The shear act of reading this stuff means absolutely nothing when it comes to acting the role.

I found this site when I googled "don juan" a couple of years ago. I wasn't looking for dating advice or love life shiat at all, I just wanted to find some memorable quotes from, "the tales of don juan" by castaneda. I read through some stuff here and started to enjoy it. There wasn't much of a difference between what I was reading and what me and my friends would talk about on a guys night out. The only real difference being that I'm a bit older than the average poster on here and me and my crew all have a lot of dating experience under our belts. There was quite a bit of trials and errors in my dating career, and in my life in general, before I found this site.

Having some experience already the bible proved worthy for me. It gave me some good reflective moments on past failures as well as previous successes. Your still very young and have a lot of your own self to discover, if I were you I would just ignore this site for a few years and come back to it when, actually if, you need it. Much of the information in the bible works with older more mature women. If you wait 7 days to call an 18 yr old girl, with the memory of a sweat sock, who you meet at a party then there is a good chance that she wont even remember you. If you do the same to a 25 yr old women who you built rapport with than it is likely that she will remember you and you can set precedence in a relationship with by such acts.

I'm not knocking the information that this site lays out, but I hold the belief that it is best utilized by guys with dating experience, both good and bad, who are more mature and in at least their early 20's.

 

[Hawke]

See there is your problem straight away, psychologists are the ones you want to talk to, not psychiatrists.

Think about it like this to, if you CANNOT program the subconscious mind, why do all armies in the world use techniques that do such a thing in their training scheduals? Or how about cults?

Your subconscious mind is ALWAYS being programed by your conscious mind in so many ways. And you are somewhat right, you can change your conscious perceptions of something from negative to positive and it won't effect your subconscious response straight away. It takes time for the subconcious to form new links, a little over 25 days of repeated association, or a strong emotional link. The emotion way can happen in a mere moment.

By projecting a false or fake self image yeah you aren't just creating a mask, but as time goes on your subconscious mind does take on those new traits and makes them a part of you.

IF you wish to discuss the workings of the mind than continue to do so, but know that i and some others here i believe have actually studied areas of psychology so have a good understanding of how the mind works and how it turns experience into behaviour. And so far you are only right to a small degree.

 

[SELF-MASTERY]

I like being myself because I have a great personality. I believe that a person cannot truly deny their nature: life long nerds will die nerds and alpha males will die in a fist fight.

Guys like me who entered the seduction game with social skills wil prevail. Pseudo post horing gurus and pathetic losers will remain on the bottom.

Fk the game, fk being a dj, gun shots to pua's, be the best you. Call a chick the first day you get her number fk the rules, because the more time you spend living the game (not post and believing in an ideal model) the sooner u learn that there are not any rules to this game. All kinds of guys get women, and enjoy full lives.

These are just my thoughts...
I'm just talking through ya...

 

[AngelusPUA]

There is a difference between wearing a social mask and changing who you are. What I mean is a person can learn to change who he is and become smarter, funnier, and more confident and more successful with women. The problem lies with people who read e-books, go out faking confidence, faking conversational skills and using canned lines.

They think that the seduction gurus book is the holy grail of dating, everything they ever needed and just by acting confident, saying “Hi” to a women , negging her a few times and using C+F the HB10 will jump into their bed. WAKE UP it’s just and illusion, most seduction Gurus will have you believe that learning how to be great with women is easy, why? Because they want your money. They are business men they will show you something that seems simple and easy and you will throw money their way.

It happens all the time If you’ve ever seen early morning infomercials they always come up with all these versatile solutions for modern living. A toaster that cooks bread 10x faster, a juice machine that juices 1 orange per second. That’s what most of these seduction gurus sell you, they tell you you need to go out and do street approaches, you need to learn how to talk, you need to learn how to hypnotize women, NLP and all this other nonsense. They sell you a fantasy for their own fu*kin profit and who can blame them, we all want to make money.

So yes all these books do teach you to put on social masks, the only real way to get women is to change who you are. You need to become the man that women desire, this guy is right on the money GREAT POST.

 

[JHeights83rd]

Real confidence

made mistake about post about subconscious/conscious mind. Conscious mind can program the subconscious mind. What psyquiatrist said was that your subconscious accepts the impulse if its true. But he said that when you teach yourself to have confidence, its fake, until you get experience, then it becomes real. Most people in the world are not confident people. Its not confidence, its ego, covering up for insecurities.

Confidence = believe in being capable
Self confidence = confident in oneself
over confidence = believing when not capable