Indirect Sexual Attempt

[SargeMaximus]

Interesting, i don't think this would work 95% of the time and would get ghosted. But that is just my opinion and I have struggled quite a bit myself recently so maybe I should be doing the opposite of what I think lol.

How often has it worked for you? This fwb approach? How did u meet this girl?

I met her on pof that’s the initial convo. Yeah it doesn’t work often, but it works for me more than the other ways suggested to me on this site. So you can see why I prefer this method. Get laid sometimes vs. Get laid never. Wonder which I’ll choose?

 

[Velasco]

Interesting, i don't think this would work 95% of the time and would get ghosted. But that is just my opinion

To put this in perspective.

If this DID have a high success rate he wouldn't be on here asking these questions.

Therefore not only is this style, not effective (huge failure rate) but not efficient (fast) as well. Because while this particular example looks "faster" from a micro view (THIS particular set did not take more than 5 messages/5 minutes to make it happen). It is way slower than picking up chicks in real life with a much smoother approach from a macro perspective (his approach to work requires more stars aligned than let's say my indirect->direct approach. The more things need to be in place for something to happen, the less odds of it coming to fruition).

 

[SargeMaximus]

To put this in perspective.

If this DID have a high success rate he wouldn't be on here asking these questions.

Therefore not only is this style, not effective (huge failure rate) but not efficient (fast) as well. Because while this particular example looks "faster" from a micro view (THIS particular set did not take more than 5 messages/5 minutes to make it happen). It is way slower than picking up chicks in real life with a much smoother approach from a macro perspective (his approach to work requires more stars aligned than let's say my indirect->direct approach. The more things needing to be in place for something to happen, the less odds of it coming to fruition).

Compared to the 0% success rate of what you guys advocate. You guys are heavily biased. I’m here to improve my game, not because my game doesn’t work

 

[Velasco]

Compared to the 0% success rate of what you guys advocate. You guys are heavily biased. I’m here to improve my game, not because my game doesn’t work

Mate you are the one struggling here. Dunno what's funny about that tbh

 

[SargeMaximus]

Mate you are the one struggling here. Dunno what's funny about that tbh

I get laid using my method, I don’t get laid using your method. What’s funny is you tell me to do what has been proven to work, yet I’ve never gotten your way to work. Mental gymnastics amuses me.

 

[Sebastian0001]

I get laid using my method, I don’t get laid using your method. What’s funny is you tell me to do what has been proven to work, yet I’ve never gotten your way to work. Mental gymnastics amuses me.

so tell us in the last year, how many times did you get laid using this approach and what was the hotness of the woman 1-10?

 

[SargeMaximus]

so tell us in the last year, how many times did you get laid using this approach and what was the hotness of the woman 1-10?

In 2021, 80 times. Not 80 girls. Maybe 4-7 I don’t remember, there were a few ons in there. Could have been more. Girls ranging from 5.5-7 imo. Average 6/10 I’d say.

pic below because I track it in my app

 

[Sebastian0001]

In 2021, 80 times. Not 80 girls. Maybe 4-7 I don’t remember, there were a few ons in there. Could have been more. Girls ranging from 5.5-7 imo. Average 6/10 I’d say.

pic below because I track it in my app

4-7 women for a total of 80? not bad although not sure what a 6 exactly looks like lol

 

[SargeMaximus]

4-7 women for a total of 80? not bad although not sure what a 6 exactly looks like lol

A 6 is either a cute face with chubby body or a slim body with meh face

 

[Sebastian0001]

A 6 is either a cute face with chubby body or a slim body with meh face

the problem with ur approach, in my opinion is this. What if there is an 8 who is seriously interested in you but she has so many guys, why would she want to be fwb? What if you lose a solid 8 or 9 because you went with such a high risk high reward option? Maybe you should tweak ur approach based on the girls level? So if you lose a 6 no big deal but the 8 or 9 will require a bit more escalation.

Do you have any super good text exchanges that have worked well for you? I am struggling with how to make things with dates sexual and not friend vibe. I had been in an 8 year relationship and I have sadly lost a lot of my game.

 

[SargeMaximus]

the problem with ur approach, in my opinion is this. What if there is an 8 who is seriously interested in you but she has so many guys, why would she want to be fwb? What if you lose a solid 8 or 9 because you went with such a high risk high reward option? Maybe you should tweak ur approach based on the girls level? So if you lose a 6 no big deal but the 8 or 9 will require a bit more escalation.

Do you have any super good text exchanges that have worked well for you? I am struggling with how to make things with dates sexual and not friend vibe. I had been in an 8 year relationship and I have sadly lost a lot of my game.

My thoughts are this:

1. by being this way (my way or the highway) I am different than most men who will bend over backwards for a woman(especially a hot woman)

2. if I have to bend over backwards to get a girl, it’s not worth it and I’d rather be celibate

so that’s all there is to it.

Since I went from incel to where I am today I can only conclude that there is a way to tweak my game where I don’t compromise who I am but can get the hotter girls more frequently (I have had sex with a few 8’s in my life tbf)

As for examples,I posted a few on this site but god knows where they are now.

i don’t have any currently as I don’t have any girls in my rotation.
However, even if I did I don’t think it would help. What you have to do is what I did: find what works FOR YOU, and that requires experimenting. My general rule of thumb is to do and say what I feel like doing and saying and if she’s not into it then she isn’t my type anyways

 

[Old Balls]

IMO do and say what you want, but lube her up a little more. Being a teasing and playful guy from the start will lead her to enabling you to say what you want without negative repercussions. Just milk it for a bit before going full psycho serial killer. Sexual tension goes a long way.

Granted it helps to get her in person so you can pierce her soul with your eyes when you do go full psycho serial killer after playing with her for a bit. Texting can go awry very quickly.

 

[Sebastian0001]

lol so what do u mean when you say lube her up? Like telling her she's beautiful or what specific types of things do u mean? I think ur saying like butter her up but not sure if I got it.