Indirect Game

[Deep Dish]

Heartiste once said,

"To seduce hot girls, it helps to know the mind of a hot girl. And that means getting in her peep toes and taking a look at the sexual market through her eyes.

Hot girls don’t get hit on as often as merely cute girls, but that doesn’t mean they don’t notice the head swivels and leery eye rape from throngs of across-the-way admirers. So, hot girls intuitively know their SMV, even if they only perceive it in the vaguest sense. Hot girls, like most girls, also instinctively know that most friendly men approach them with sex not far from their thoughts. Yes, even male feminists. Women may not be able to verbalize this without resorting to scads of hamster droppings rationalizing male attention as something else, but they feel it in their bones.

Hot girls know as well that tiny hors d’oevres of reciprocal friendliness will encourage many men to lunge for the booty buffet.

For all these reasons, hot girls have defensive shields (bĩtch shields) that enable them to make it through the day without having to deal with the come-ons from hundreds of amorous men. The strength of the bĩtch shield is directly proportional to the hotness of the girl X the frequency with which she gets hit on. (The most fortified bĩtch shields are therefore found on 7s and 8s.)

A hot girl’s working assumption, like the male patron’s working assumption in the strip club, is that she/he will get propositioned for sex/money. Now that you know what the world looks like through a hot girl’s eyes, you can better tailor your approach. As with the skilled stripper or escort who makes her customer feel like he’s truly wanted for more than his money, so too must you make the hot girl feel like she’s desired for more than her sex. This, in practice, means that indirect approaches on hot girls should theoretically work better than direct solicitations, and there should be a general progression in your game that, initially, obliquely convinces the hot girl she is not a sexual interest and, later, convinces her that she shares a deep emotional and intellectual connection with you.

Seduction, in this manner, is two steps forward, one step back, with a plume of smoke and mirrors tossed in for effect. And it has to be as long as hot girls are your primary desire targets."

 

[Bingo-Player]

Good insight I like the analogy about female strippers although I think women are a lot smarter than men In that sense so its harder to create the same illusion without actually meaning it

I follow an account on twitter called chateau Heartiste

it sounds very very similar to their content

 

[Westminster]

I also think the strip club analogy is quite good. It might be a bit extreme but it makes you think about the balance of power in these relations.

 

[Bingo-Player]

I also think the strip club analogy is quite good. It might be a bit extreme but it makes you think about the balance of power in these relations.

Most females above a 7 in looks will start testing the power dynamic the second you start speak to them

Theres sooo many nuanced intricacies women can pick up on in male tone and body language.....if shes interested she will start testing you

Ive come to realise now if shes being too agreeable or passive in general shes probably feigning intrest ( not always ) but in most cases

Ive also come to realise Women go wild for men whom are able to completely bypass the normal social order and simply skip all the nonsense via extreme confidence / social standing

Now this is an art to be mastered and I certainly haven't mastered it but I've been " in the zone" a few times and usually its almost instantly got me pu$$y

 

[SW15]

I tend to use indirect game more than direct game. Both forms of game have advantages and disadvantages.

In some venues, indirect game could prevent you from attracting the attention of security or management. This would tend to happen in malls, grocery stores, and in gyms/fitness venues. With indoor retail game, female customers always have the potential about complaining about male approachers. I've never had it happen to me but I have heard stories that it does happen. Social calibration will help a lot in these instances.

Going direct is likely best in nightlife venues and possibly outdoors on the street/in a park/on a walking path.

I tend to use the venues where indirect approach is better more often, which leads me to using indirect approach more.

One advantage of indirect game is that it can lead to longer conversation. That allows for the ability to evaluate if someone is going to better a better fit on a 1 hour + first date. You might not get that with direct game. A lot of indirect approach conversations tend to go nowhere and result in no date offer.

 

[AmsterdamAssassin]

Treat them like you'd treat a younger sister and have her qualify to you.