Indifference ...the irony of it

[18WheelsOfSteel]

It's one of the most taught concepts of game, taught here on SS, taught by PUA's and game guru's

Ironically real indifference would mean that pua's and sites like this wouldnt exist. Guys simply would not care. They would be busy drinking with their mates or doing some grocery shopping. They would see a girl they like.. "Hi, You look Nice wanna come over to my place?" If the girl says yes Great! ..If she said no.. No problem. back to grocery shopping.:rock:

They would not obsess about it and spend Time and energy, chasing , proving themselves , Learning game tactics, Learning about women psychology, improving their physique, getting more money then needed and flashing this around for the sole purpose of getting women. ( now many of you will argue that some of these things like making money or improving your physique are done for your own benefit... if this is true then it's fine. if not be honest and admit that you are doing it for women )


Moving on, What If... What if Real Male Indifference actually existed.

Imagine all men busy doing their own stuff, hanging out with mates, playing football, playing pool, fixing their motorcycles/cars, playing their video games, working on projects not paying any considerable amount of attention to women.

can u see it?.....Likeless Facebook profiles,.... Lonely Instagram selfies, ....women in clubs buying their own drinks to wet their dry throats

What a world..

Women would be basically fighting for a sliver of male attention. And it wouldn't be only for that one Alpha Male's attention... Any Male's attention would be worth it. They would be the ones asking us out.. The fact that they could get a Male who was perfectly contend doing his own stuff to take her out and put his stuff on hold would be an accomplishment of it's own and she'd be the envy of her gf's

Sigh.....

Unfortunately I must come back to reality... This fantasy will remain a fantasy as long as we keep chasing the p*ssy and simping to women, the beautiful ones even the ugly and fat ones.

 

[Infern0]

I think you're taking it too literally. We're not robots, we're going to have SOME little bit of ourselves saying "damn, wish that would have worked out". The key is to say "Well, that's alright! Next time, there's tons of other women anyways".

Did it ever cross your mind that sites like these were created by true Don Juans who honestly wanted to help others struggling? To help make the world a little bit better of a place (or at least for men)?

I, personally, work out, eat right, practice social skills, etc. etc. etc. for myself. It makes me feel better mentally and physically. It's just a really awesome plus that women dig it all.

In an ideal world, men would not be indifferent 100% because then there'd be no room to care. The ideal world would be all men being TRUE masculine men and accepting it. And that all women were TRUE feminine women and accepted it. Gender roles continued, there would be stable homes and families, no gangs, no hunger, no war even! But that's not the way the world works.

Although I admit it, that would be funny to see all the lonely social media crap :crackup:

Ruler is spot on here. We aren't sociopaths, if we didn't care at all where would the fun be in it.

The reason sites like this are so good is that in the modern world many guys (like me) grow up not being taught how to attract women, the culture plus poor quality family upbringing can leave a guy utterly clueless.

 

[foreverAFC]

Moving on, What If... What if Real Male Indifference actually existed.

Imagine all men busy doing their own stuff, hanging out with mates, playing football, playing pool, fixing their motorcycles/cars, playing their video games, working on projects not paying any considerable amount of attention to women.

What a world..

i hate to break it to you, but thats how life is for guys who are attractive. i knew plenty of tall athletic jocks in highschool and college who were indifferent to women because they always had attractive women. i cant tell you how many parties i went to where these guys would just play beer pong all night long while their gfs and girls who wanted them just stood off to the side watching them and waiting for them while guys like me were looking at the women and pining for them and wondering why they wont pay attention to a guy like me.

 

[zekko]

I always get suspicious when guys talk about being successful with indifference because there's no way to know what is really going on. Is she attracted to the guy because he's one of the tall, athletic jocks foreverAFC talks about? In that case, she'd probably want him, indifference or not.

Did the guy cold approach her, or ask for her number? If that's the case, he PROACTIVELY was expressing his interest and trying to get with her - that's not indifference at all. He can be outcome independent, where he knows he'll just move on to the next girl if she doesn't work out. That's probably a better word for it. But if he wants to fvck her, that's not indifference.

Indifference can work on a few levels:
1) If the girl is an attention ho, and the guy is ignoring her, that can drive her crazy.
2) Indifference shows that the guy isn't needy. This is where it is actually attractive, I think. It's not like you go up to the chick and tell her "I don't care about you at all". That's not going to turn women on (although no doubt there are guys here who will claim it does).

I've always known I am TOO indifferent. I've always known I would do better with girls if I was more flirty and engaged them more. But for the most part, I don't care. So a lot of the time, when I've invited a girl out, she was absolutely shocked that I even had any interest in her - because I'm naturally so aloof. Too aloof, really.

 

[RangerMIke]

I don't think it is possible to be indifferent to anything, otherwise nothing would get done.

However, I definitely believe a man should be indifferent to what a woman does. Otherwise you could come off as some needy @ss b!itch. You can not base your happiness off of what other people do, especially women, because then you are surrendering your power. Bad move bro.

You try hitting up a woman and she ignores you... so what move on.

If you ask out a woman and she says no... no problem, move on.

If a woman flakes on you or stands you up... so what move on.

If you ask out a woman and she says yes, don;t act like you just hit the lottery.

Don't be overjoyed with anything your woman does, and don't be butt hurt over things she doesn't do. It turns a woman off if she thinks all your emotional energy (good and bad) hinges on her. The man is supposed to be the rock, not the woman. When you act like that, you are acting like a chick.

 

[nismo-4]

I don't think it is possible to be indifferent to anything, otherwise nothing would get done.

However, I definitely believe a man should be indifferent to what a woman does. Otherwise you could come off as some needy @ss b!itch. You can not base your happiness off of what other people do, especially women, because then you are surrendering your power. Bad move bro.

You try hitting up a woman and she ignores you... so what move on.

If you ask out a woman and she says no... no problem, move on.

If a woman flakes on you or stands you up... so what move on.

If you ask out a woman and she says yes, don;t act like you just hit the lottery.

Don't be overjoyed with anything your woman does, and don't be butt hurt over things she doesn't do. It turns a woman off if she thinks all your emotional energy (good and bad) hinges on her. The man is supposed to be the rock, not the woman. When you act like that, you are acting like a chick.

Indifference works on women who are interested in you. If used on a woman who has little to no interest, you're just saving her the trouble of cutting you off or making her happy you got the hint and gave up.

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

True indifference does exist, it's just not very common, espcially in sites like these. The guys who truly are indifferent are those in LTRs or just happen upon women as and when it pleases them. They are aka 'naturals' or 'greater alphas' who literally don't concern themselves with women or how to attract them because, by and large, it doesn't occur to them; it just tends to happen.

This doesn't make them queer nor asexual; they just literally are indifferent to outcome which is what makes them desirable.

Indifference is not to be mistaken for ignorance though. These indifferent guys face the same issues as do all the others. These are the guys that will be left after 20yrs of marriage because their women's needs have changed (indifference is then interpreted as ignorance), but the man hasn't...

The best idea for me is described by Corey Wayne; women are like cats, so let them come and go as they please. Give them affection when they come looking for it, otherwise don't bother yourself with them too much. This is indifference.

 

[DiegoSantori]

The only time I'm authentically indifferent towards most women is when I'm attracted to one specific woman that makes other women seem boring enough that I don't want to be with them.