In process of creating a skinny guy routine. some q's

[CarlitosWay]

We've already discussed how starting strength and linear progression is superior to a split, in terms of gaining bulk and getting strong

linear progression superior to a split? Who says bodybuilders also don't use linear progression be it more reps, better form or adding more weight. We strive to do the same damn thing. I used a v-squat machine last week and got 4pps for 6 deep reps...you better be damn right when I use that machine again in 2-3 days I'm going to strive for more weight or reps, even if I have to leave blood, sweat and tears on that machine.

This is where my issue is with some of you guys.. there's this "misconception" about bodybuilders or people who train using splits that we don't also use linear progression. The only freakin' difference is we're in the gyms training A LOT more than you full body 3X a week guys. Than you guys wonder why we're bigger, looking leaner and are still putting up pretty damn good numbers

Layne Norton Natty bber...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tIxM2xA3utc

another natty bber I was going to start training with until I had to move...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DdRwavegTVg

check out all his other vids too... Lots of deadlifts, machine work, curls. Just like how I train.

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

felt gay looking for pics of dudes wtih there shirts off so ill just tell u my goal. I was about 150-153 for the last cpl months. Not sure how much it means just yet, but weighed in this morning at about 156-157. But I would love to see 170-175 in the next month or 2-3. I think this is very doable in 3 months at least.
Just had 2 questions, I bought flax seed oil today. Should I just pour a tablespoon or two in 1 of my shakes a day? Also I bought steel cut oats, can I just throw them in the blender w/o and preparation?

this has been my diet has been looking like the last 2 days..
On Monday this is what my diet looked like:
Meal 1 - breakfast shake: 2 eggs, 1 instant breakfast packet, 1 banana, scoop of peanut butter made with milk.
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese sandwich with mayo
Meal 3 - cytogainer weightgainer shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 4 - Ravioli and tomato sauce (a lot)
Meal 5 - cytogainer shake (2 scoops)
Meal 6 - 2 hamburgers (86% lean) and can of beans
Meal 7 - cytogainer shake (2 scoops)
(drank almost a gallon of 1% milk this day)

Tues
Meal 1 - breakfast shake: 4 eggs now, but everything else same as previous day
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese on whole wheat bread w/ mayo
Meal 3 - cyto shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 4 - chicken with rice (whole bag of microwavable kind)
Meal 5 - cyto shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 6 - 2 cheeseburgers with bag of frozen mixed vegtables
Meal 7 - cyto shake (2 scoops
(drank gallon of this day, plus about a cup of fruit in there somewhere)

Weds
Meal 1 - breakfast shake
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese whole wheat break w/ mayo
Meal 3 - ravioli and tomato sauce
little bit of fruit here
Meal 4 - I havent decided yet... maybe just a shake for now, then another meal, then the gym followed by a pwo concoction lol.

I also just got some protein poweder thinking of cutting down on the cytogainer shakes and/or mixing it with the whey. thanks for the input.

 

[EFFORT]

felt gay looking for pics of dudes wtih there shirts off so ill just tell u my goal. I was about 150-153 for the last cpl months. Not sure how much it means just yet, but weighed in this morning at about 156-157. But I would love to see 170-175 in the next month or 2-3. I think this is very doable in 3 months at least.
Just had 2 questions, I bought flax seed oil today. Should I just pour a tablespoon or two in 1 of my shakes a day? Also I bought steel cut oats, can I just throw them in the blender w/o and preparation?

this has been my diet has been looking like the last 2 days..
On Monday this is what my diet looked like:
Meal 1 - breakfast shake: 2 eggs, 1 instant breakfast packet, 1 banana, scoop of peanut butter made with milk.
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese sandwich with mayo
Meal 3 - cytogainer weightgainer shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 4 - Ravioli and tomato sauce (a lot)
Meal 5 - cytogainer shake (2 scoops)
Meal 6 - 2 hamburgers (86% lean) and can of beans
Meal 7 - cytogainer shake (2 scoops)
(drank almost a gallon of 1% milk this day)

Tues
Meal 1 - breakfast shake: 4 eggs now, but everything else same as previous day
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese on whole wheat bread w/ mayo
Meal 3 - cyto shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 4 - chicken with rice (whole bag of microwavable kind)
Meal 5 - cyto shake (2 1/2 scoops)
Meal 6 - 2 cheeseburgers with bag of frozen mixed vegtables
Meal 7 - cyto shake (2 scoops
(drank gallon of this day, plus about a cup of fruit in there somewhere)

Weds
Meal 1 - breakfast shake
Meal 2 - ham/turkey/cheese whole wheat break w/ mayo
Meal 3 - ravioli and tomato sauce
little bit of fruit here
Meal 4 - I havent decided yet... maybe just a shake for now, then another meal, then the gym followed by a pwo concoction lol.

I also just got some protein poweder thinking of cutting down on the cytogainer shakes and/or mixing it with the whey. thanks for the input.

170-175lbs is just some random number. Its important for you to understand where it is your trying to go and for people trying to give you advice. Mature up and let go of the homophobic thing and just find a few ideas of your goal.

Your diet is a disaster, as a starting point only eat these foods

Fish, Beef, Chicken, Eggs, Brown rice, Oats (no pre made mix) ,green veggies, Extra virgin olive oil, Natty Peanutbutter, Whey protein

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

damn another useless, condesending, expert-sounding post that gives no actual useful information nor does it answer ANY of the questions i asked but hey thanx anyway man, you made me realize why the hell am i asking these questions on a seduction forum.

in the future you should actually explain your point("your diet is a disaster") because if you read my post you would see I already eat 7 of the 9 things u suggested?? so u make no sense.

plus being called immature by someone the same age or younger is always funny. it was a joke, but i'm still not sure why a pic is so important.. i'm 155 and like i've said increased mass is my goal, thats it.http://www.bigmusclesbuilding.com/image-files/anabolicsteroids-1.jpg. Google 'muscular men' and u could choose any of the first 1000 pics if you need more buddy.

 

[frenchbeauty]

OP your diet includes Cytogainer, which I assume is a weight gainer and includes tons of bad carbs/fats, ravioli + tomato sauce as a meal on Wednesday ( no protein ), seems like you don't have a base diet planned out.
EFFORT's trying to help you out, and I understand that you want to gain lean muscle, everyone here does, but you WILL have some trouble keeping fat gains away if you keep planning your diet daily, without any long-term projection. If you want to reach your goal asap you need a clean diet including protein at every meal. I understand that you already are including some of the things EFFORT suggests in your diet, yet your total calorie intake changes daily, since you're picking different foods. If you're really serious about this, you need to figure out a base diet, taking in account how many calories you need to grow, by measuring/weighing what you eat, then when your gains are slowing down you can easily add proteins/carbs/fats to keep the gains coming.
Finding what you want to look like helps you focus towards your goal. Here's what I eventually want to look like down the road : http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_MEvj79wiU...AUgIkEYA/s400/2008_09_07_adrian_peterson2.jpg
It's not essential, but it's way easier to see how far/close you are to your goal when you can visually assess it, vs weight which could be misleading.
Then again it comes down to how dedicated you are, and how quickly you want to reach your goals.
FB

 

[xHiGHPoTeniaL]

Thanx for the post fb. That other one just makes absolutely no reference to my q's though. I recently got the whey and added it to my morning shake today instead of the cytogainer. I only have alittle cyto left so I'll just throw in a scoop here and there from now on till its done. After that, whey only. I guess ill be adding the oats too just dont know where yet.

i ended wednesday with chicken/rice/broccoli, hoping that was a little better and then worked out and ended the night with 2 scoops of whey(about 50g of protein) and half a peanut butter sandwich.

I've been working off the basis that Ill be needing 4000 a day to grow and thats what i have been aiming for. Also have been on point with gomad thing which is about 2k itself. From the box reading and math i've done, i've been getting about 1000+ calories in each food meal I eat(not chicken & rice though that was just under). This should be working out to about 4000+ a day with what i've been eating but i can't figure it out exactly. Although i dont have specific meals for each day, I have a list of lunch/dinner meals that i go off of.

Also according to the back of the box, the amount of ravioli i eat it works about to about 35g of protein, from the cheese i'm guessing. Does this type of protein not count?
And this past week and change is actually the most i've ever eaten consistantly in my life so its been a shytload of work up to this point but im most def dedicated and here for the long haul.

 

[frenchbeauty]

Haha I know it's tough to get started ... especially for a big drinker like me.. used to get drunk 3+ times a week. It's a lot of work for sure. Usually the protein count is only whey + meat + dairy sources ( milk + cottage cheese ).