In order to get hot girls, you have to really WANT to get hot girls.

[Listen_to_Olly]

Wow...

First of all I want to address the generic nonsense said about "building a great life and women coming to you". Have fun doing that in a city where men outnumber women, the average women is hideous, and the average guy is doing well financially alongside many other ways (San Francisco for example). Women are not going to fly from Miami to San Fran to get with you even if you happen to be a celeb so shut up you naive morons, sell your garbage elsewhere.

Second of all, this thread was not about money or objective status.

I simply made the point that you can be a doctor making well over six figures not getting as much sex as a bartender, not which is the better career.

Who says you HAVE to be broke if you want to get hot girls?

Bartenders aren't broke in big cities, plenty make serious cash.

Plenty of people working in industries full of hot women make good cash.

So stop coping and saying these guys are broke, they make money AND get hot girls because they built the lifestyle for it.

They were not like idiots on this thread that followed the generic vague garbage being spewed, they actually went where the hot women were at and brought value to that world.

 

[bigneil]

They brought value to the keg pumping, bus-boy humping world?

The average bartender makes $22,000 per year. THAT MEANS HALF MAKE LESS THAN $10 PER HOUR.

Girls will say "...but he's a bartender... next".

Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
Doctor bad, bartender good.
'

Would someone please pull the plug on this broken record?

 

[Urbanyst]

Wow...

First of all I want to address the generic nonsense said about "building a great life and women coming to you". Have fun doing that in a city where men outnumber women, the average women is hideous, and the average guy is doing well financially alongside many other ways (San Francisco for example). Women are not going to fly from Miami to San Fran to get with you even if you happen to be a celeb so shut up you naive morons, sell your garbage elsewhere.

If you have money, you can live where you want. Why would you choose a place with ugly women and majority men unless you're a total f*cking moron or homosexual? If I can choose where I live, so can anyone else with money and high demand skills.

Who says you HAVE to be broke if you want to get hot girls?

Bartenders aren't broke in big cities, plenty make serious cash.

Plenty of people working in industries full of hot women make good cash.

So stop coping and saying these guys are broke, they make money AND get hot girls because they built the lifestyle for it.

They were not like idiots on this thread that followed the generic vague garbage being spewed, they actually went where the hot women were at and brought value to that world.

You can hunt or you can set a trap. What's the difference? Energy, time and what you have to show for it.

Money is like a trap. You can use it to lure hot women as long as you have it. Hunting takes hard work every day and constant chasing. It also takes youth and high levels of energy. Plus, you are in constant competition over food with other hunters.

When you become high value, that speaks for itself. Women chase you. And when you pursue, you don't have to work as hard.

If you like the thrill of the hunt, go knock yourself out. I'll be relaxing and letting my pray come to me. The great irony here is that the most successful people are often the most lazy people. Too lazy to want a hard life.

 

[homie]

Wow...

First of all I want to address the generic nonsense said about "building a great life and women coming to you". Have fun doing that in a city where men outnumber women, the average women is hideous, and the average guy is doing well financially alongside many other ways (San Francisco for example). Women are not going to fly from Miami to San Fran to get with you even if you happen to be a celeb so shut up you naive morons, sell your garbage elsewhere.

Second of all, this thread was not about money or objective status.

I simply made the point that you can be a doctor making well over six figures not getting as much sex as a bartender, not which is the better career.

Who says you HAVE to be broke if you want to get hot girls?

Bartenders aren't broke in big cities, plenty make serious cash.

Plenty of people working in industries full of hot women make good cash.

So stop coping and saying these guys are broke, they make money AND get hot girls because they built the lifestyle for it.

They were not like idiots on this thread that followed the generic vague garbage being spewed, they actually went where the hot women were at and brought value to that world.

I agree, in order to male much money you need to get a good job/business, in order to get hot girls, you need to pick them up and learn game. When somebody tells that you have to get rich, bulk up, get a nice ride and f*cking cut, and THEN women will somehow appear in your life by themselves ready to get banged, for me it's just nonsence. It doesn't work like that. Such thinking just keeps you from trying interacting with women untill some conditions are met, like "i'll go picking up girls next year, now i am not making enough money so i am not good enough to try yet". That's lame af, you see?

 

[Von]

Well, I will put my 2 cent:

If you WANT something, you will ACT for it.... and it will increase your CHANCES.

Everyone here knows... the ''game'' ain't 100% success rate.... in life nothing is 100%.... even ''pro'' misses more than half their moves (balls, shoots etc...)

What makes them a pro? They practice to be above, they don't quit, and they get rewarded for it

So having a HOT girls is the same..

You want a Hot girl? Now want leads to action... action to results, results to improvement, improvement to better results.

The reason, people don't make it happen is this: You don't want it enough to act or you quit at the first bump

Succesful ''business or professionnal people'' like in Sales are people who WANT it SO MUCH that they NEVER STOP (and they smart enough to keep improving their method to increase their chances and build opportunities).

You want hot girls? Act, get results, improve, never stop, create opportunies

PS: Before that, define what is your HOT girl.... you need to know what you shooting at

 

[bigneil]

No, money is not everything. Money is just the most important factor in modern life.

I'm totally part of the rat race. I was just staying that my goal is to get out of it, while @marmel75 is happy to say in it forever.

I have been programming computers since 1978. I have a revolutionary graphics system that is too far ahead of it's time. My current boss is pleased with code I wrote in 1997 so I'll take it one day at a time. I plan to work on this for life. This isn't the rat race. Pioneering new software is about the human race. What could be more important? We are on the cusp of machines superseding mankind, and we will need machines to keep us safe from other machines.

 

[bigneil]

• I still suspect you (Listen to Olly) are a female former barmaid named Olivia who never got over Lance, the bisexual male bartender who left her for a black bus boy in 2008.

And we know ONE thing - Olivia didn't charge Lance one dime. Now she's attempting to get DJ's to relocate to her city and become bartenders so she can maybe score again.

 

[zekko]

Bartenders are well placed for women logistically.
Being a doctor sounds like there would be a lot of stress and pressure involved. A lot of life and death decisions.
Ever notice with doctors, they usually hire a lot of attractive young women in their offices though? Medical doctors, dentists, eye doctors, doesn't matter what kind lol.

 

[bigneil]

I'll play.



One of my cousins is going out with an idiot bartender. My cousin is better looking than your girl.

Kind of defeats your point, doesn't it?

You'll play what? With yourself?

What defeats my point? Your conjecturing about a theoretical girl who (on your own admission) is sleeping with an idiot (my girl has a 130 IQ) - and you're doing this without a photo? You're declaring her better than a girl who officially rated 99 in at least 3 photos and got hired as a showgirl in Las Vegas (and turned it down)? Prove it. I did.

And didn't you say you made more money that me also? Prove that too.

In the meantime, I make the most money and have the hottest girl with the greatest age difference.

Bartenders are well placed for women logistically. Being a doctor sounds like there would be a lot of stress and pressure involved.

I work at home and make twice as much as a doctor. I get to sit at the local bar for 2 hours a day and work out of my notebook, and eat gourmet food and drink wine and espresso (all deductible since I am working and need extra desk space due to 5 computers in my office).

You think the girls there would choose the male bartender who can't afford to get his car fixed over their best customer? The hottest female bartender in town (who rated 93) was sneaking out on her bartender with me, and I pitied him and said he was too much my friend and gave her back to him.

 

[Trump]

I could imagine a 22 year old Pre-med Doctor coming to sosuave;

'Im planning to be a Brian surgeon in San Francisco but have limited sexual experience and want to have sex with good looking girls. What does sosuave, the site known for its secrets of attracting, dating,and having sex with girls, recommend?'

'Give up everything you know in San Francisco, your friends, your family, your school, your connections. Grab a plane ticket and move to Miami. Don't worry about being a surgeon. Go and pour drinks at a nightclub for some 23 year old girl who has slept with 7 guys and is looking for validation. You'll get the experience you'll need and at the same time you will be bringing massive value to the world.'

 

[bigneil]

My girl is the hottest based on photos and an official consensus. Anyone here is free to publish photos of their women on photofeeler.com and pay $1 per photo and share the official ratings (with eyeblack if necessary). It rates them based on looks (99), smarts (91), and trustworthiness (90). Another girl from another SS member scored 99, 1, 5.

If you think that I'm putting up pictures of my family on SoSuave to be rated, then you are clearly more stupid than the slag you're seeing.

She is better looking than your girl (who is a high 7, low 8).

My cousin is a legit 8. And going out with a bartender.

Real-life has a way of cutting through weak frames like a knife through butter.

Wow, this is probably the weakest attempt at an argument deesade has ever made.

To summarize -

1) He's telling us that girls who look like him are hot. Next I guess he'll say he knows he's handsome himself because his aunt told him?
2) He is declaring his cousin an 8 (a score he made up with clear bias - based no photos and zero consensus) and using it to override an official 9.9 (a score I showed proof of several times, from PhotoFeeler.com rating (that a person pays for - based on three photos that I either took or was in, and a 60 vote consensus)).
3) He's talking about what his cousin said about a loser who she got HPV from.
4) He's declaring THAT real life? Maybe the HPV part, and the part about her boyfriend making less than $10 per hour (about minimum wage).

 

[bigneil]

PS - Shag once a month? We've had sex 40 times in the past 40 days. She makes sounds that sound better than any porno I ever heard. I must secretly record her.

 

[Urbanyst]

I have been programming computers since 1978. I have a revolutionary graphics system that is too far ahead of it's time. My current boss is pleased with code I wrote in 1997 so I'll take it one day at a time. I plan to work on this for life. This isn't the rat race. Pioneering new software is about the human race. What could be more important? We are on the cusp of machines superseding mankind, and we will need machines to keep us safe from other machines.

That's next level. Your goals go beyond yourself and you are working to improve society in general.

I'm not there yet, but I agree with you.

 

[Urbanyst]

I notice guys have a tendency to be irrational on this site. I think it's a result of everyone and their grandma thinking they have discovered some "secret" to getting laid. There are no secrets. Let's break it down in a rational way. If you are low value, 50% of women will automatically disqualify you for not having a career/car/your own place. That leaves 50%. 30% will disqualify you for not being good looking/physically fit. As a broke grown ass man, your demographic is reduced to 20% probability of attracting women providing you have have killer game/lifestyle where you are surrounded by women. Without money and looks, you HAVE to be this bartender guy or a master of seduction. You have no other choice. But why you you purposely paint yourself into a corner?

The one thing the OP neglects to mention is that if you have money and looks (high value), about 75% of women are open to you without needing any game and without having to construct your entire life to be around women.

You can simply go out and tell women who you really are and you have will be perceived as high value.

A high value guy does not need to concoct some "secret formula" to get women. That's like saying a high value female needs to discover secrets to attract men. No she doesn't. All she needs to do is show up.

We have all seen good looking successful guys in real life. Do they really look like they need to do something special, or discover some secret to have women fawning over them? Most likely, they are just being themselves.

The more high value you are, the more effortless it is. But nobody wants to hear that. It's too difficult to work hard and change your life around. Everybody wants "secrets", shortcuts, loopholes, and hacks.

I agree totally.

Its basically the food chain. The higher you are, the more options you have. Money is a big part of where you are on the food chain. A lot of guys here don't want to accept that for some reason. But it doesn't make it any less true.

On a red pill site, I'm shocked that so many guys are uncomfortable with the fact that attractive women care a lot about money. But its easier to read a PUA book and talk/act confident than it is to go out in the world and thrive.

 

[marmel75]

No, money is not everything. Money is just the most important factor in modern life.

I'm totally part of the rat race. I was just staying that my goal is to get out of it, while @marmel75 is happy to say in it forever.

Except I don't view it as a rat race. When you are exceptionally talented at what you do and you love it, jobs find you,not the other way around. I left anon recently where I had worked for under 6 months that wanted to keep me so badly they offered me a 15K raise and when I turned it down, they offered me a 20+K raise and an extra week vacation. I still turned it down because the job I was RECRUITED for without me doing anything, offered me more than that,plus bonus plus
a hellified benefit package. But I can count the percentage of people on a few fingers that can go to a job and in under 6 months become so valuable the company will basically offer a blank checkbook to keep them.

I don't worry about money because if I ever was desperate for it, which I won't be, I could always make it. I place value of different things than you do. It's not right or wrong, just different.

 

[Urbanyst]

Except I don't view it as a rat race. When you are exceptionally talented at what you do and you love it, jobs find you,not the other way around. I left anon recently where I had worked for under 6 months that wanted to keep me so badly they offered me a 15K raise and when I turned it down, they offered me a 20+K raise and an extra week vacation. I still turned it down because the job I was RECRUITED for without me doing anything, offered me more than that,plus bonus plus
a hellified benefit package. But I can count the percentage of people on a few fingers that can go to a job and in under 6 months become so valuable the company will basically offer a blank checkbook to keep them.

I don't worry about money because if I ever was desperate for it, which I won't be, I could always make it. I place value of different things than you do. It's not right or wrong, just different.

Give me all your money for the next 6 months and live on the street with the homeless. Then at the end of the 6 months.. tell me about all the stuff you value other than money.

 

[marmel75]

Give me all your money for the next 6 months and live on the street with the homeless. Then at the end of the 6 months.. tell me about all the stuff you value other than money.

Lol, ok.

Give me all the computer powered things you depend on for the next 6 months and then tell me about that.

 

[Urbanyst]

Lol, ok.

Give me all the computer powered things you depend on for the next 6 months and then tell me about that.

The computer powered things I depend on cost MONEY.

I'm glad we finally agree.

 

[marmel75]

The computer powered things I depend on cost MONEY.

I'm glad we finally agree.

Never said they don't. Just said pursuit of money in and of itself isn't what life is about

 

[Urbanyst]

Never said they don't. Just said pursuit of money in and of itself isn't what life is about

No one said it was.

Got anything else?