I'm very cynical now and full of hate.

[More Cowbell Please]

Have you actually tried to ask any women out? You give the impression that everything will somehow magically come together without your own ability to plan and execute. You give the impression that you don't really want to put any effort into the equation and hope life just hands you everything. You are to the point of not even wanting to analyze what it is you can do, you are just throwing out general impressions and excuses. And worst of all, you hate women, because they don't like you. Hell, they don't even know you and you probably don't even phuking try to initialize sex with them in a masculine way, so how the fuk are they going to bed you?

But then again, maybe your current state is a good place to be for awhile. Maybe for the first time in you life you are falling in love with yourself more than women to complete yourself. You may be on the path to greatness and you are just getting all of these pent up feelings of inferiority and "I have to be this or that to please everybody" crap that most of us have lived with most of our live. I dunno, maybe all this anger can turn into something good, but do know that nobody can do anything for you except you. What a man is to himself is more important than what he has or what his reputation is in the eyes of others. You need a motivation, a fire in your life to change your direction, but I'm not sure that anyone call tell you what that is, you just have to find that satisfaction yourself without anyone else.

 

[More Cowbell Please]

I think Kontroller X hit this one right on the head. You actually have the right attitude here. You are starting to realize that you matter more to yourself than anyone else or anything else you may have. Your changing and you are just not used to it. I don't really know where all this stored up anger is coming from, it could be anything. Maybe you have this schism in your soul where your soul is actually wincing for the growing pains of your new self and you are actually reacting to the fact that you are no longer in the same place you once where. Or maybe you are letting go of many psychologically unhealthy frustrations that have been building up throughout your existence.

Either way, your essence is changing and you need to find something to hang on to to feel stable and real, but maybe this surreal storm you are in right now is helping to change you. The anger in you I am not worried about. You can use this anger, but you have to control it with your intelligence and channel it into something positive, and what I mean by positive is something that will benefit you and nobody else.

In short, you need a new direction in your life and you are probably on the verge of finding that satisfaction, not exactly a woman's validation, but something that will change the way you look at your role in life. I think maybe this wild emotion has something to do with the fact that you are simply well on your way to this happening and you are uncomfortable with the change, but the change still happens.

 

[f283000]

1. stop making having a woman such a big part of your life, instead concentrate on getting a fun life of your own:Get lots of random hobbies, rarely spent time at the house, have fun, go out even if it means playing pool by yourself, shooting basketball by yourself, whatever. Spend your time with hobbies and you will not think so much about lonelyness and women. You are not alone in this deparment even the toughest of men long for a caring woman to hold, it is part of our creation to long for someone of the opposite sex. But women should be an addition to your life not the whole point of it.
2. there is a correlation with hobbies and women: The more hobbies you have, the more stuff you do, it gets you out there in the world and that is like an invisible magnet for women. You will make friends, meet new people and get yourself noticed. Even if you spend your time in hobbies where you are by yourself when you do meet women you will seem more natural and exciting and won't care about women as much since you have a fun life of your own already without them (which will make you more attractive to them).
3. You are right in not trying to pretend that you are something you are not: No need to post myspace pics with you climbing rocks or whatever. Keep being yourself so in the future when you do start meeting more women you don't pretend to be something you are not and they will like you for who you are.

 

[Perfect10]

Take a deep breath... Then go to a traveling company and travel to a place you've always wanted to go to! Just for a week or two, most preferably... Alone.

You'll see how you feel when you come back

 

[edger]

I HATE women. I never had a girlfriend and never will. The only times I got laid was when I paid a woman or promised her something. I'm never going to hold hands with a chick, kiss a girl intimately because we're in love, or any of the other **** that human beings were made to do. I guess that I'm suppose to be happy masturbating every ****ing night. I'm a man with sexual urges and can't get with a female. I'm suppose to be alright with that?

I'm not a newbie and I've read the DJ Bible and these forums for a long time now. I don't need to hit the gym, I don't need to increase my confidence, I'm not a lazy bastard with no job, I don't have any weird habits, I'm not disfigured, I'm very funny (when I'm not pissed off as I am right now), I can mingle with all types of people...


BUT THERE IS A ****ING CURSE ON MY LIFE. A CURSE THAT PREVENTS ANY FEMALE FROM LIKING ME. Oh I forgot, I do get interest from fat chicks and I'm not attracted to fat chicks. Other than this, I don't care if the girl has tattoos, wear glasses, is tall or short, skinny or thick, white black asian, hispanic... I'm not picky. I'm not going after HB10's. Hell, I'm more attracted to a regular ol' chick in the HB6 range.

I tried online dating. I read women profiles and sent an honest, custom message to them. What happens? My message gets deleted. I'm sorry that I don't have pics of me mountain climbing or riding a ****ing horse or some other fun pic that everybody says I must have on my profile. And I don't take creepy pics of me with no shirt on standing in my bedroom. In real life, I smile and make conversation with all kinds of women. But I'm smart enough to know if they like me and I never get that feeling. It's more like they're being polite than actually interested in what we're talking about.

Congrats to all you guys that successfully changed your game and now is no longer alone or getting pootang every week. But I don't give a **** anymore. I'm going to become the biggest ******* in the world. Not only regarding women but every facet of my life. I tried the whole being considerate thing and it got me nowhere. **** everybody and everything. I am going to cut you off in traffic, I am going to steal that parking spot and may even you give you the finger. I'm going to let doors slam in the faces of women coming in behind me, oh don't drop nothing because I won't help you pick it up. If I don't like you, male or female, I will tell you to get the **** out of my face. If people can't handle my newfound harshness, then bring it on. BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A ****. I DON'T GIVE A ****. I DON'T GIVE A ****.

It doesn't make me sad, in fact I get happy when I hear about some college student getting murdered or injured in a hit and run. "oh she was a beautiful and talented girl, how could this happen." I don't know but I'm glad it did. **** all these chicks that complain endlessly about their relationships. **** all the chicks with kids at the age of 19. I hope you struggle for the rest of your ****ing life and have more kids and then you all be on welfare and can't afford diapers. I have no more regard for human life, not even my own. I die then I ****ing die.

I absolutely understand the frustration. Dude, at this present time in my life, I'm going through the biggest rut with hot women I've ever faced, really...it's pretty f*ckin' bad. All you need to do is sift through my posts. Like you, my game is up there on the scale, my confidence is high, my looks are definitely there, etc., but all to no avail, as I seem not to garner the attention of attractive women most of the time while out in the public eye or out in the field. I've said this many times here, but some guys here like to give me flack for it and laugh, but I'll say it again...sometimes no matter how good-looking and how good we are with women, it just isn't in our cards to get them...it's not part of our fate/destiny. I STRONGLY am 100% convinced of this. I know for a fact I'm a good-looking guy and have good game(not the greatest, but it's up there) with women. I've taken a look at myself under careful scrutiny, and cannot under very careful observation find any reason I shouldn't be able to bed hotties with regularity, which leads me to point to DESTINY, that it just isn't in my cards. And as much as it pisses me off, I've come to accept it. At least I know the problem doesn't lie with me. What's at work here is something of a higher power. There's a reason for it. I'm not meant to bed hotties with regularity the way other guys out there do. There is a plan for all of us here, there's a reason things have to play out the way they do. I know it sux to follow a plan/destiny you never agreed to, but I believe we have to take on certain destinies in this life, because that is the only way for God's grand plan/destiny of the world to be completed. If our lives don't follow certain paths, then God's greater plan can't be completed. For example, our lives are meant to take certain paths because those paths assist other people's fates/paths in being completed. We all feed off each other, a chain reaction. I don't know if you get what I'm saying, it's hard to explain. Now am I saying everything's out of our control? No. There are some paths that we can take to change our lives..but when you've tried dilligently and made every effort to change your life course, and still nothing is changing, then it's time to consider that there has to be something of a greater power at work here. What else can it be? I can't think of anything else.

I apologize if I offend you in any way that I bring God into this, as you may not believe in a higher power, but this is the only way I can explain what I'm trying to say.

 

[Jaggs]

^ Absolute bull****

 

[nonameok]

I don't think that's bullsh*t. That's how I feel. I used the word 'curse' but it's fate. I'm a very good observer of the "unsaid". People often told me this. I know when girls like a guy. It's usually instant from the moment they interact. Of course, there are some women who are VERY good at hiding these unsaid verbal and non-verbal cues but most aren't. Like I said, I have gotten these signals from women that outweigh me by 50lbs.

My anger is still here but it's all going to be about me now. There's a movie coming out called "The Yes Man", I'm going to be the "no" man. I've tried the whole nice and considerate thing and it hasn't work. I'm going to do me. No more false smiles. If I'm smiling then something must've really made happy.

 

[Smartone84]

I absolutely understand the frustration. Dude, at this present time in my life, I'm going through the biggest rut with hot women I've ever faced, really...it's pretty f*ckin' bad. All you need to do is sift through my posts. Like you, my game is up there on the scale, my confidence is high, my looks are definitely there, etc., but all to no avail, as I seem not to garner the attention of attractive women most of the time while out in the public eye or out in the field. I've said this many times here, but some guys here like to give me flack for it and laugh, but I'll say it again...sometimes no matter how good-looking and how good we are with women, it just isn't in our cards to get them...it's not part of our fate/destiny. I STRONGLY am 100% convinced of this. I know for a fact I'm a good-looking guy and have good game(not the greatest, but it's up there) with women. I've taken a look at myself under careful scrutiny, and cannot under very careful observation find any reason I shouldn't be able to bed hotties with regularity, which leads me to point to DESTINY, that it just isn't in my cards. And as much as it pisses me off, I've come to accept it. At least I know the problem doesn't lie with me. What's at work here is something of a higher power. There's a reason for it. I'm not meant to bed hotties with regularity the way other guys out there do. There is a plan for all of us here, there's a reason things have to play out the way they do. I know it sux to follow a plan/destiny you never agreed to, but I believe we have to take on certain destinies in this life, because that is the only way for God's grand plan/destiny of the world to be completed. If our lives don't follow certain paths, then God's greater plan can't be completed. For example, our lives are meant to take certain paths because those paths assist other people's fates/paths in being completed. We all feed off each other, a chain reaction. I don't know if you get what I'm saying, it's hard to explain. Now am I saying everything's out of our control? No. There are some paths that we can take to change our lives..but when you've tried dilligently and made every effort to change your life course, and still nothing is changing, then it's time to consider that there has to be something of a greater power at work here. What else can it be? I can't think of anything else.

I apologize if I offend you in any way that I bring God into this, as you may not believe in a higher power, but this is the only way I can explain what I'm trying to say.

I must say I was inspired by this post like no other that I have read on this forum in a long time. Its not even about God or a "higher power", its just "the way it is" sometimes. Its just life, its just the truth. I myself am in the SAME exact boat as you. I have built up solid game over the years, enhanced my looks to the point where I am confident about myself when I go out, but for whatever reason, I've just never been very successful with women. I am now 24 years old and have never had a serious girlfriend. Is that bad? No. I may just fall into that category of guys who marry the first girl who shows them any real interest, but make no mistake, I will NOT settle for less, i made that decision a long time ago.

Its a very difficult game out there these days it seems, especially here in NY. I have matured a lot over the last year, up to the point where I am finally finished for settling for less (this includes getting a$$ from fat girls, or girls I just know im not really interesting in) Its time to buckle down though in my case, as I dont want 3 years to fly by and still be in this same situation. I do meet girls here and there, but a lot tend to fall into that "not for me" category. I dont want to waste my time anymore but if its my destiny to get married at 35 then i guess i'll have to accept it.

Or maybe i'll just never find anyone at all...

 

[eatgel]

just think of it this way, look at yourself from a 3rd person prospective... what kind of person would you look like? If you don't like what you see CHANGE IT! We already have full of cynical and evil minded people in this world and we don't need anymore.. What it is is your insecurities and you know that being insecure doesn't feel good right? Only self-help will help you.. remember everything is your fault!!! You are this way because of yourself but please help yourself at all costs... only focus on you

 

[Zappati]

Lots of great posts in this thread. Ive only been here for 2 weeks or so & I can sincerely say, the djf has made me view things in the women dept, alot clearer & w/ more of an understanding knowledge.

Stick around & learn some new things, would be my advice to you.

 

[SXS]

I know girls who feel the same way.
But if you are a girl and ugly, you have no hope. You are a guy, you can do better. Have a little patience... **** the girls that dont like you, you shouldnt care about them and try to ask out other women.

 

[DonJuan11]

I HATE women. I never had a girlfriend and never will. The only times I got laid was when I paid a woman or promised her something.

You've been laid, you are in better shape than half the guys on here.

I'm never going to hold hands with a chick, kiss a girl intimately because we're in love, or any of the other **** that human beings were made to do. I guess that I'm suppose to be happy masturbating every ****ing night. I'm a man with sexual urges and can't get with a female. I'm suppose to be alright with that?

You have to change things in order for women to have sex with you. Woman will not sleep with you because they pity you.

I'm not a newbie and I've read the DJ Bible and these forums for a long time now. I don't need to hit the gym, I don't need to increase my confidence, I'm not a lazy bastard with no job, I don't have any weird habits, I'm not disfigured, I'm very funny (when I'm not pissed off as I am right now), I can mingle with all types of people...

BUT THERE IS A ****ING CURSE ON MY LIFE. A CURSE THAT PREVENTS ANY FEMALE FROM LIKING ME. Oh I forgot, I do get interest from fat chicks and I'm not attracted to fat chicks. Other than this, I don't care if the girl has tattoos, wear glasses, is tall or short, skinny or thick, white black asian, hispanic... I'm not picky. I'm not going after HB10's. Hell, I'm more attracted to a regular ol' chick in the HB6 range.

You are being very abstract and are not telling us the whole story. You have to give us specific examples so we can help you. However, it seems from that the above paragraph you are very into yourself (I do this, I do this, I do this) If you've read the bible like you say you have, you wouldn't talk like this or be this upset. You would focus on what makes the girl happy, what makes her smile, what's important to her, why she gets emotional, etc instead of the "woe is me" attitude. You have to make a girl FEEL GOOD ABOUT HERSELF, then she will give you the sex you want.

Sleeping with a girl is not a business transaction. You can't go to a girl and say "I have good job, I workout, I don't have addictions, so have sex with me because I'm all these things". She will tell you to go to hell in 3 seconds and will sleep with the guy who has Game. The guy who makes her feel STRONG POWERFUL EMOTIONS. You have give her a reason to be with you. Do you give her a thrill? Do you read books? Do you write poems? Do you play guitar? Do you cook well? Do you make love to her like James Bond?

I tried online dating. I read women profiles and sent an honest, custom message to them. What happens? My message gets deleted. I'm sorry that I don't have pics of me mountain climbing or riding a ****ing horse or some other fun pic that everybody says I must have on my profile. And I don't take creepy pics of me with no shirt on standing in my bedroom.

Mountain climbing and riding a horse probably turns them on. You can't get mad at the ones who delete your message because specific things turn them on. You would do the exact same thing to an overweight girl who sent you a message and you weren't attracted to. But again, you are dealing with logic (I don't care what you like, you have to like me for me and sleep with me because I think I'm better than 50% of those losers who get laid every night)

In real life, I smile and make conversation with all kinds of women. But I'm smart enough to know if they like me and I never get that feeling. It's more like they're being polite than actually interested in what we're talking about.

There is your problem. Why aren't they interested? Are you talking about yourself the whole time? Are you talking about sports? Politics? WWII? Or are you talking to a girl who loves dancing about Dancing with the Stars? There is no way a girl wouldn't be interested talking to you if you knew how to talk to her about something important to her.

Congrats to all you guys that successfully changed your game and now is no longer alone or getting pootang every week. But I don't give a **** anymore. I'm going to become the biggest ******* in the world. Not only regarding women but every facet of my life. I tried the whole being considerate thing and it got me nowhere. **** everybody and everything. I am going to cut you off in traffic, I am going to steal that parking spot and may even you give you the finger. I'm going to let doors slam in the faces of women coming in behind me, oh don't drop nothing because I won't help you pick it up. If I don't like you, male or female, I will tell you to get the **** out of my face. If people can't handle my newfound harshness, then bring it on. BECAUSE I DON'T GIVE A ****. I DON'T GIVE A ****. I DON'T GIVE A ****.

Again, its all about you. "If I don't get my way, right here right now, I'm going to make sure other people have a bad day too. Are all the girls in the world supposed to stop living their lives to come have sex with you? Is everyone supposed to stop what they are doing to make sure you are happy, 100% of the time, all day? You're problem is you are looking for instant results, instant gratification. "I've tried this and this, and the girl won't sleep with me, so now I will spit in her face and put her down." Does this sound logical to you? Why don't you read a book or join a club? Start a company, help the homeless, volunteer, meet people, get a degree, be a doctor, be a lawyer. Do something constructive. Have something to say to a girl other than "I don't have addictions, lets have sex."

It doesn't make me sad, in fact I get happy when I hear about some college student getting murdered or injured in a hit and run. "oh she was a beautiful and talented girl, how could this happen." I don't know but I'm glad it did. **** all these chicks that complain endlessly about their relationships. **** all the chicks with kids at the age of 19. I hope you struggle for the rest of your ****ing life and have more kids and then you all be on welfare and can't afford diapers. I have no more regard for human life, not even my own. I die then I ****ing die.

I believe you need about 4-5 more years to mature. You'll begin to realize its all about other people, not about you.

 

[DonJuan11]

I've said this many times here, but some guys here like to give me flack for it and laugh, but I'll say it again...sometimes no matter how good-looking and how good we are with women, it just isn't in our cards to get them...it's not part of our fate/destiny.

What's at work here is something of a higher power. There's a reason for it. I'm not meant to bed hotties with regularity the way other guys out there do.

Sorry bro, but there is no higher power not letting you sleep with a hot girl every night. God's a little too busy to worry about Death, Destruction, Famine, Hunger, Rape and Genocide than to worry about you popping your cherry with a hot girl.

You guys seem to love yourselves a little too much, or have way too much time on your hands. You both should go fight some wars and live in poverty for a while, then you won't think "Why has God punished me by not letting me sex hot girls every night?"

Read a book, go to school, make some friends, make some money, get some Game, and the girls will come. But don't ever bring Divine Intervention into it. That is ridiculous, lazy, and makes you look like a fool.

 

[CP3WOO]

Well,

A) You can lower your standards. Any ugly, fat, or tranny would love to have a fun loving guy like you.

B) You can accept the fact your going to die alone and go have some fun in your life instead of worrying about being with someone.

Dude, you're pathetic. You're posting this and hoping we'd give you some words of inspiration to help you get top notch inner game. This site helps men who want to help themselves. This isn't a site that you vent and hope we feel sorry for you. No wonder women don't want you to stick your P in their V, you're too sad.

If you're a woman (you're certainly b!tching like one), which would you prefer:

A) A cool guy that knows how to have fun and loves every part of his life

or

B) You...?

 

[edger]

This site helps men who want to help themselves.

Dude, are you not reading? This guy has BEEN trying to help himself. He's stated that he's read the DJ Bible and the forums for a long time, is confident, in good shape, not a lazy bastard with no job, is humorous, etc. etc. etc., yet is still yielding poor results. Sounds like a guy who's tried to help himself to me.

CP3WOO, you have no place on this board if you can't listen to other poster's ventings and don't feel sorry for people who have tried to help themselves. You're a destructive troll and are contributing nothing positive to the forum. I hope you never end up in a situation like this. A callous sociopath like you needs to experience it for yourself, then maybe you'll change your rotten tune.

 

[edger]

Read a book, go to school, make some friends, make some money, get some Game, and the girls will come.[/B]

A lot of us have been there and done that. What do you have to say to that?

 

[DonJuan11]

A lot of us have been there and done that. What do you have to say to that?

That's good, it improves you mind and makes you educated. But you cannot expect a girl to give you sex because you've done that. It makes you more attractive to them as a mate and potential husband, but you have to also work on getting Game. It doesn't appear you guys have read the Bible, otherwise you wouldn't be this upset.

Again, no girl will come to you and say "Wow Edger, you have a Ph.D math, I'm sleeping with you now." unless you get to her emotions, show her you care, give her a thrill.

Guy with degree, ripped, tall, handsome, all hair and all teeth + lots of money but No Game = no (quality) girl
Guy with no degree, some stomach, average height + look, average money + Game = laid by HB 8 often

 

[edger]

Its a very difficult game out there these days it seems, especially here in NY.

Hah, tell me about it. Where you from exactly? I'm on Long Island, but sarge in Manahattan on the weekends.

 

[edger]

but you have to also work on getting Game.

Did you read my last post? I said I've gotten GAME. My game is quite up there. Have you even bothered to read my signature too?

 

[DonJuan11]

Did you read my last post? I said I've gotten GAME. My game is quite up there. Have you even bothered to read my signature too?

If your game is quite up there and you are everything you say you are, you should be getting laid every night.