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Im starting to think the blackpill and redpill community brainwashed me. Most women will happily date someone below top 20%

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No. Women don’t ‘gravitate’ to me ‘everywhere I go’. It does happen sometimes. By no means all the time. I do get approached. But I can go months without that happening. Obviously I’m describing highlights. Otherwise, what’s there to talk about. We post interesting/important/relevant snippets of our lives here. I’m no Chad, but I’m nevertheless pleased with my life.
As for game conventions. About 25-35% of the attendees are women. Mostly young. And, you can imagine the average male gamer, well, mooging him isn’t anything to brag about. So, the point I was making was while in my ‘normal’ life, I do OK. I clean up at game conventions. As the local male pool is of lower SMV than the general population. I posted this as an example to agree with 2Rocky’s post.
What makes you say you are not a chad? You get allot of traction.
 

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Too short.
The guage is how women are reacting to you, not if you objectively check some box or all the boxes.

If you say you clean house because other guys have a low SMV (you posted that) then that is a chad level of traction.
 

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The guage is how women are reacting to you, not if you objectively check some box or all the boxes.

If you say you clean house because other guys have a low SMV (you posted that) then that is a chad level of traction.
Don Draper (Mad Men) is a Chad. He moogs me.


I have a niche appeal. I’ve been told I look like a ‘pervy porn star’, by an FWB. And I have had similar comments from others. I appeal to that subset of women that want that. Other girls, not so much. So. Maybe a niche chadlette?

Also, I have a huge advantage in that my job puts me in contact with LOTS of women. I am always out and about. I rarely stay home. When I was single. I was out & about almost constantly. Just being in proximity increases ones odds.
 

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Do you mind sharing what it is?
I’ll be a little vague so no doxey. But it involves (as one of my functions) marketing/PR/Community Relations in Health Care. As you can guess, female RNs are a huge part of the people I interact with. I also do medicine, but now that Covid is easing, my Org is shifting me back towards PR.
 

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The only hot nurse I've ever seen was in a porno film.

In real life, nurses are some of the most depressing people I've ever met. The life of a nurse is pure misery - They get showered with sh1t and blood every day, fingered by the surgeons and work horrendous rosters that fvck up their health, which tends leave them fat, sad and unhealthy.

Their feminine empathy also gets nuked because they are dealing with complaining people all day. This makes nurses, in my view, rather cold and psychotic.
i’m around nurses all the time. I’ve dated (& married one) many. I enjoy them.
 

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The type of nurse I'd want is a homeopathic nurse. She distributes vitamins and herbs to her patients. Very feminine.

I would not want my woman around a hospital or any modern medical facility. The butchery that is going on in there is going to make my woman course and turn her psychotic. Hospitals are no places for women. They get exposed to the same type of gore that police officers get exposed to (and I wouldn't want my woman to be a cop either).
I had an LTR with an EMT I met at an ED. I guess being in HC myself, I’m comfortable with women in it. Agree on the cop thing. Seem kinda masculine.
 

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I remember I dated a nurse once who told me that she loves injecting people with needles. She particularly enjoys it when they are afraid of needles.

I could compare her to other women I've dated in the medical field. Female Doctors are some of the most sadistic women I've ever met. One doctor told me that she loves slicing open skin and looking at the veins inside.
Female MDs are a different breed. Always seem on the defensive.
It’s funny but medical people all have a weird fetish of some sort. I enjoy administering meds IN.
 

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I remember I dated a nurse once who told me that she loves injecting people with needles. She particularly enjoys it when they are afraid of needles.

I could compare her to other women I've dated in the medical field. Female Doctors are some of the most sadistic women I've ever met. One doctor told me that she loves slicing open skin and looking at the veins inside.
"Witch doctors" in their imaginations and egos...
 

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Golfing, hunting, skiing are high-value hobbies that women associate with active, masculine men. Golf probably more in the rich corporate guy league.

Comparing video gaming to hunting, fishing in real life is weird. You think women view this as the same thing? I can assure you that they don't.

Women are useless as friends because men and women were never supposed to be friends. Why on earth would you want to suppress your sexual desire for a woman in order to be her friend?
women complain about those activities when men do them. I will hold to that. the only time she likes it is if hunting or fishing bring in good food or getting attention like a winning an event for status.

agree, that the friend thing is not good. and I see you agree that it's because men can't do it. women can do it.
 

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I don't want to go here again, man. But it needs to be said. The women you associate with are Asian. Asian women play candy crush and watch anime. It's not useful advice for the forum unless they are banging Asians exclusively.
I get that you have low opinions about Asian people. For any that do like Asians, it's good info. I find good and bad, more good than bad.
 

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They "complain" as a sh1t test because they want you to see if you'll drop what you're doing, pay attention and simp for them. If you do this then they lose attraction and respect for you

You'll notice that women generally try to isolate you from your focus/hobbies as a rule. This is a subconscious test to ensure you've got masculine frame and you're not a weak pvssy-begging loser.
yes, this is true. we agree. however, did you just disagree with yourself? we have at least one man and maybe more that have figured out that gaming is a different circle and it is possible to pull in that environment. men should not all crowd into your place and compete with you. they should learn how to see what is in front of them. some are doing just that and telling about results.
 

Don't always be the one putting yourself out for her. Don't always be the one putting all the effort and work into the relationship. Let her, and expect her, to treat you as well as you treat her, and to improve the quality of your life.

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why do my threads always get hijacked by people arguing about such sh1tty uninteresting topics
TBH. Threads that go on for 5 pages are bound to diverge. And good for you. Your threads always get lots of response. Mine are often ignored.
 

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They "complain" as a sh1t test because they want you to see if you'll drop what you're doing, pay attention and simp for them. If you do this then they lose attraction and respect for you

You'll notice that women generally try to isolate you from your focus/hobbies as a rule. This is a subconscious test to ensure you've got masculine frame and you're not a weak pvssy-begging loser.
Even if they don't "try" to lose attraction and respect for you it's something that just happens energetically between the two of you when you devalue yourself.
 

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Golfing, hunting, skiing are high-value hobbies that women associate with active, masculine men. Golf probably more in the rich corporate guy league.

Comparing video gaming to hunting, fishing in real life is weird. You think women view this as the same thing? I can assure you that they don't.

Women are useless as friends because men and women were never supposed to be friends. Why on earth would you want to suppress your sexual desire for a woman in order to be her friend?
A lot of women golf actually. I find it boring. Tried the driving range a few times and was trying to hit the ball like a hockey puck. My problem is my hobbies like guns and fishing most hot women don't like that here.
 

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being an alpha is not about getting a lot of women , its about putting your respect first.

having a lot of women means nothing if they don't respect you,
+1

All Alpha is, is living on your own terms.

If you want to take her out to dinner -> that’s fine
If you want get laid by paying for it -> that’s fine
If you want to get laid by getting to her emotions -> that’s fine
If you want to f*ck and chuck -> that‘s fine
If you want to be married -> that’s fine
If you want to be single -> that’s fine

As long everything is on a man’s terms, he is Alpha. Now if a man wants to take her out to dinner, and doesn’t get a return for it, I wouldn’t call him “beta”, I’d call him “stupid”.
 
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