Im sick of hearing about "leagues." Dont buy into the bull****!

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Everyones said it. "so and so is out of my league/ im out of their league" BULL****. Let me tell you, leagues are bull**** excuses created by those too scared or without sufficient self esteem to approach. You need to GO FOR IT and stop worrying about leagues.

I have been in the fashion industry for years, and as one of the only straight men i know in my area in this buisness, im surrounded by women. A lot of the most attractive ones are some of the lonliest. FACT. I hear about it everyday. They are human beings, and you need to go for it. thats all i have to say.

ITS FRIDAY, MAKE IT HAPPEN.
 

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This sounds similar to the story you often hear about how the most beautiful women never get asked out because men are afraid of them, or they just assume they're taken. I'm sure there are examples of this, especially if they're the quiet type. But that isn't the way I've generally seen it. The most beautiful women I've seen have had guys beating down their door for a date, or just for the privilege of talking to them.

As for leagues, I don't know, I think some guys have limitations as to what they can realistically expect, for various reasons (I know this goes against what the seduction community usually tries to sell you). I think most guys can probably get an 8 or 9 to go out with them if they approach it right, or maybe even have sex with them. But I think a lot of those guys would be unable to retain an 8 in a long term relationship (if that's what they want) - those girls usually have too many options. As for a 9, I'm not even sure doing what it would take to keep a 9 in a long term relationship would even be worth it.
 

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zekko said:
This sounds similar to the story you often hear about how the most beautiful women never get asked out because men are afraid of them, or they just assume they're taken. I'm sure there are examples of this, especially if they're the quiet type. But that isn't the way I've generally seen it. The most beautiful women I've seen have had guys beating down their door for a date, or just for the privilege of talking to them.

As for leagues, I don't know, I think some guys have limitations as to what they can realistically expect, for various reasons (I know this goes against what the seduction community usually tries to sell you). I think most guys can probably get an 8 or 9 to go out with them if they approach it right, or maybe even have sex with them. But I think a lot of those guys would be unable to retain an 8 in a long term relationship (if that's what they want) - those girls usually have too many options. As for a 9, I'm not even sure doing what it would take to keep a 9 in a long term relationship would even be worth it.

You arent wrong, but from my experiences, while attractive women do have options, a lot of the men beating down their door are average chumps anyways.
 

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Oh please. Every guy should go after the girl he wants and think he has a chance okay but don't feel bad for women. Make no mistake they can get with a guy at pretty much the snap of their fingers. These "attractive" women who complain about being alone are alone for no other reason then their pickiness. When they say guys don't approach what they mean is no studly multi-millionaires approach them.

Every good looking women always has a bunch of guys chatting her up and trying to get into her pants.
 

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IKO69 said:
Oh please. Every guy should go after the girl he wants and think he has a chance okay but don't feel bad for women. Make no mistake they can get with a guy at pretty much the snap of their fingers. These "attractive" women who complain about being alone are alone for no other reason then their pickiness. When they say guys don't approach what they mean is no studly multi-millionaires approach them.

Every good looking women always has a bunch of guys chatting her up and trying to get into her pants.

Fact. Ever hacked a hot girls facebook account? As soon as you log in there are 5 new chat windows open, all from guys who messaged you as soon you logged in.
 

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Not buying it.

If that were the case then why do we have this and many other sites devoted to this topic.

Fact is attractive women have plenty of options. Even attractive women with mental/emotional issues have guys worshipping their feet, something a similarly attractive man could never get away with aka George Sodini.
 
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