I'm Seeing The World For What It Is - Knife Pulled Out On Me

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I won't even call this guy a friend, he's just somebody I go out with, from a mutual friend who wasn't here this evening. So, I've been hanging out with him for a few weeks. This dude is unstable. I've been barred from a club, 3 weeks prior today. They told me I would be able to come back in a weeks time, prior to the 3 weeks. Tonight, they're still going over the samething, which was me getting into a fight and are now saying, I can come back

So, he started blaming me for not getting us in. He's a dude who makes music, and tries to blag himself into the club, by saying he's just a music producer who wants to get his songs heard. So tonight, he had a few to drink, brandy. Everything was cool when I hit him up to go to the local club we go to. As usual, he starts drinking and gets out of hand, and starts questioning everything, thinks everybody is against him. Just straight up, anti-social.

This dude is 34+ years old, has nothing going for him. Makes petty songs for a hobby and NO CLUB listens to them, lives in a hostle, wears the same clothes everytime, no ambition, has no real friends, except for a few associates that call him on the weekend. Like me. Just a straight bum, but I still hang with him, because of my mutual friend.

So, tonight, we went to the local club I got barred from, we couldn't get in, so we went to another a few minutes down the street, another local, we also couldn't get into there, the bouncers have barred HIM, from there, for acting up with some girl before, and generally dislike him. When this happens, he starts to take it out on me, mutual friend and other people. He gets disrespected by the bouncers or higher authorities, has to try and blag, because he's desperate and hasn't been laid in yeats, then takes out that anger, as the night prolongs, on us.

We went back to the club, I was barred from, to see if we could get back in, by sucking up to the bouncers a little, I refused the first time, because I was told that I was allowed back in some weeks back, but they were being *******s. So, this dude, completely sells me out, tells me to walk off, whilst he tries to blag it to the bouncers, the bouncers see this, and utilize it, they know he is a desperate bum, so they get him more angry by saying, "It's your friends fault, why you can't come in".

Basically trying to cause a rift and sell me out, I get the feeling this particular bouncer dislike sme, because I've usually gotten alot of poon from this club and I rack inthe girls, he also says I'm a goodlooking fella, bla bla, and just gives off a shifty fake friending vibe. Power hungry. So, whilst I was watching this guy sell me out, they still wouldn't let him in. So, he calls me everything under the sun infront of them and walks off.

I keep telling them, I'm not with this dude, hes by himself, because from then on, he wasn't a friend, associate or company any more. Meanwhile, I see the female-bouncer smiling, definetely a lesbo, who enjoys this, who was causing the rift by repeatedly stating that its my fault, why he wasn't getting in. Just a few hours ago, so-called friend was saying how the bouncers where d!ckheads and that he was going to have my back.

Anyway, he walks down the street, I see this chick from a week ago, who nearly got me into a fight, I was by myself, and 3 guys cvckblocked me, and were near enough trying to fight me, but I kept my own and kept on talking to the girl. This girl, herself, has been abandoned by her friends who are in the club I got barred from, so she's naturally p!ssed.

We get into this big arguement, which was out of my hands. Eventually, I shut down the hostile vibe and talk to her, normally. We get talking, and my so-called friend popsout of the shop, with a bottle of brandy. Still drunk off of his head, he keeps cvckblocking, talking smack and trying to put me down. I ignore it and ask who he is, so he knows we're done. He then, walks off.

So I'mw ith this girl, and she hasn't got any money and left her purse with the two friends who are in the club. Yeah right. She tries to get on the bus, for free, but the bus driver doesn't allow her. Some random, girl gets up, like a damsel in distress and pays for her ticket. I'm gobbsmacked by now, so I get on too. After a while, her vibe and the whole situation with my so-called friend got to me. So I told her, see her later and good luck. I'm just in a pit of despair here.

I went back to dude's house to see what the problem was, to talk logically like a man, I hate unsolved problems, if we can't hang out, we can't. But fvck all the b!tching with it. So he opens up the door, with his hands out, a KNIFE is by his side, I'm like, dude, what are you doing, what is all this crap. He takes offense and says it's my fault why we didn't get in, shouting and extremely hostile.

I don't backdown, and say talk, like a man, not like a girl. He then, gets the knife and jestures with it, asking me to say something, I'm like, I don't need to fight you, this is pathetic. You're a lonely dude with anger issues. he gets riled up again, continues to jesture and throws the knife on the floor. I tell him, that it's not the last he's seen of me, and walk away. I mean, seriously, I'm 22 and this dude is 30+, with no life, I'm not about to fight an emotionally unstable guy with a knife and nothing to lose who I've been hanging out with for the past 2-3 months.

I'm just totally confused tonight, the world is a crazy place. Some people, are just *******s, who will fvck you over, with nothing to lose. I'll learn from this and see it for what it is. The bouncers, the girl who was a damsel in distress, who nearly got me into a fight a week ago, and having a knife pulled out on me by somebody I've been hanging out with?, LOL - Hmmm.
 

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Yeah my friend got a knife pulled on him, and even got shot but he made it though it was just the arm.

It happens if your not careful just dont cross the wrong dude. I mean he was unstable I would never go around ppl like that
 

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Are you really that much better than this guy if you are hanging around with him?

Birds of a feather?

In the future, choose the people you hang out with more wisely. Unless you just like the drama.
 

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I went back to dude's house to see what the problem was, to talk logically like a man, I hate unsolved problems
There's no point in trying to go talk to a guy who's p!ssed at you, after he's been drinking all night. Maybe after he sobers up, like the next day or something.

That said, this guy sounds like a complete loser who is a drain on your life. Why are you hanging out with him? Going out drinking with people who can't hold their liquor is not generally a good idea. Sounds like he is the type who becomes an @sshole as soon he gets some alcohol into him. If you must hang out with him maybe you could find something else to do with him where alchohol isn't involved, like play a sport or something. I doubt if he's going to change any time soon.
 

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You know how you fix this problem?

STOP HANGING OUT WITH HIM.
And if he's a friend of a mutual friend... stop HANGING OUT WITH YOUR MUTUAL FRIEND TOO.

If this guy got you barred from a bar, why in the BLUE HELL would you still go out with him? This is just as much your fault as it is his.

Seriously, I wouldn't have even gone to his place. What was that going to solve?

The solution is so simple, yet I don't see why you don't see it. WHY ARE YOU SUBJECTING YOURSELF TO THIS? If you are hanging out with a guy who is barred from a bar and then barred from another one a few feet down the block, you should start wondering: "What's wrong with me that I'm still out with this jerk?"

Dude, really... if you know he's unstable, just get the hell away from him.
 

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An early morning open & shut!

Stop hanging out with these guys and either go dolo/ with some other wingmen. Cut all ties with this guy who pulled the knife on you because a real friend wouldn't have done that type of sh*t. He ain't worth your life.

Case closed. Simple.
 

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Thats pretty unlucky man, we get thrown out and refused entry all the time around here, but they never remember or enforce any threats. I get in a fight one week and im back the next.
 

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
Are you really that much better than this guy if you are hanging around with him?

Birds of a feather?

In the future, choose the people you hang out with more wisely. Unless you just like the drama.
I was thinking the same thing.
 

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no no no you guys, you are being wayyyy too reasonable. NOT hang out w/ this loser? That's much too simple. I'm sure he had a good reason. It's very complex, you see.

Very complicated.
 

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Teflon_Mcgee said:
Are you really that much better than this guy if you are hanging around with him?

Birds of a feather?

In the future, choose the people you hang out with more wisely. Unless you just like the drama.

Bingo

Let me tell you a story, I use to hang out with an African dude by the name of "E". E was a funny *******, and always direct, I liked him cause of that, he wasn't a punk. But we would go out, and he would "crash" in when I talked to girls, then I noticed the guy would always talk negatively about black women and how he hated them, and he was black. I remember once we were at a party and this guy walked in with dreads with his hot girlfriend, she musta been 8/9 easily. Later on we went to a club and E pulled a "5" at best, saying "yeah my girl is better then his":confused:, the guy was a hater, the finally straw was when he yelled at me drunkily

My point is, I don't hang out with losers anymore, espeically at the clubs, if your hanging out with losers, what that make you?
 

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So he opens up the door, with his hands out, a KNIFE is by his side... He then, gets the knife and jestures with it, asking me to say something, I'm like, I don't need to fight you, this is pathetic. You're a lonely dude with anger issues. he gets riled up again, continues to jesture and throws the knife on the floor.


His knife-fighting skills are so bad that I suspect what you witnessed was actually a suicide attempt on his part. On at least a subconscious level, he wanted you to take his knife away and kill him with it. Obviously, people like this are toxic and dangerous to be around, but remember that hating him is pointless, because you could never hate him as much as he already hates himself.
 

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Bible_Belt said:
So he opens up the door, with his hands out, a KNIFE is by his side... He then, gets the knife and jestures with it, asking me to say something, I'm like, I don't need to fight you, this is pathetic. You're a lonely dude with anger issues. he gets riled up again, continues to jesture and throws the knife on the floor.


His knife-fighting skills are so bad that I suspect what you witnessed was actually a suicide attempt on his part. On at least a subconscious level, he wanted you to take his knife away and kill him with it. Obviously, people like this are toxic and dangerous to be around, but remember that hating him is pointless, because you could never hate him as much as he already hates himself.
Golden. You are spot-on, Bible Belt.
 

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Fvcking stupid.

Hanging out with him : Stupid
Going back to his house : Stupid
Leaving with a threat (this is the last you've heard from me): Stupid.

Stop being stupid. And stop blaming other people. You are just as guilty for your parts in this. You know what they are, they are the parts you didn't tell us.

Actually you did tell us. Let's go down the list.

1. you got in a fight a few weeks ago and got banned.
2. The bouncers don't like you
3. You blame bouncers who don't like you for selling you out
4. Lesbo bouncer doesnt like you either
5. Girl who got you into a fight.
6. Argument with said girl.

Dude, alot of people don't like you. Now why is that? Could it be that you are an arsehole? Because from your story you sure sound like one. And I woudln't want to be friends with you either. You have reaped what you have sown.
 

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There is no reasoning with angry people. They see everyone
as either with them or against them. It is best to avoid them.
If you can't do that in the short term, convince them you are
'with them' (even saying "I'm with you man....you are sooo right")
and then bail as soon as possible. The only thing worse than
trying to reason with a girl is trying to reason with an angry man.
 

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The Mad Ghost said:
This dude is unstable.

I heard enough. Lose this guy asap.

I've been barred from a club, 3 weeks prior today. They told me I would be able to come back in a weeks time, prior to the 3 weeks. Tonight, they're still going over the samething, which was me getting into a fight and are now saying, I can come back.

Shouldn't you focus more on getting poon than in fights?

So, he started blaming me for not getting us in. He's a dude who makes music, and tries to blag himself into the club, by saying he's just a music producer who wants to get his songs heard. So tonight, he had a few to drink, brandy. Everything was cool when I hit him up to go to the local club we go to. As usual, he starts drinking and gets out of hand, and starts questioning everything, thinks everybody is against him. Just straight up, anti-social.

Again this dude is bad news.

This dude is 34+ years old, has nothing going for him. Makes petty songs for a hobby and NO CLUB listens to them, lives in a hostle, wears the same clothes everytime, no ambition, has no real friends, except for a few associates that call him on the weekend. Like me. Just a straight bum, but I still hang with him, because of my mutual friend.

If this is the company your mutual friend keeps, you should lose him too.

So, tonight, we went to the local club I got barred from, we couldn't get in, so we went to another a few minutes down the street, another local, we also couldn't get into there, the bouncers have barred HIM, from there, for acting up with some girl before, and generally dislike him. When this happens, he starts to take it out on me, mutual friend and other people. He gets disrespected by the bouncers or higher authorities, has to try and blag, because he's desperate and hasn't been laid in yeats, then takes out that anger, as the night prolongs, on us.

He sounds great for your game <sarcasm>.

We went back to the club, I was barred from, to see if we could get back in, by sucking up to the bouncers a little, I refused the first time, because I was told that I was allowed back in some weeks back, but they were being *******s. So, this dude, completely sells me out, tells me to walk off, whilst he tries to blag it to the bouncers, the bouncers see this, and utilize it, they know he is a desperate bum, so they get him more angry by saying, "It's your friends fault, why you can't come in".

Basically trying to cause a rift and sell me out, I get the feeling this particular bouncer dislike sme, because I've usually gotten alot of poon from this club and I rack inthe girls, he also says I'm a goodlooking fella, bla bla, and just gives off a shifty fake friending vibe. Power hungry. So, whilst I was watching this guy sell me out, they still wouldn't let him in. So, he calls me everything under the sun infront of them and walks off.

I keep telling them, I'm not with this dude, hes by himself, because from then on, he wasn't a friend, associate or company any more. Meanwhile, I see the female-bouncer smiling, definetely a lesbo, who enjoys this, who was causing the rift by repeatedly stating that its my fault, why he wasn't getting in. Just a few hours ago, so-called friend was saying how the bouncers where d!ckheads and that he was going to have my back.

Most bouncers only care about getting girls. They really aren't your friends. Notwithstanding, you need to stay on their good side if want to go to clubs. Fighting and keeping psycho friends just pisses them off and makes it worse for you.

Anyway, he walks down the street, I see this chick from a week ago, who nearly got me into a fight, I was by myself, and 3 guys cvckblocked me, and were near enough trying to fight me, but I kept my own and kept on talking to the girl. This girl, herself, has been abandoned by her friends who are in the club I got barred from, so she's naturally p!ssed.

So let me get this straight... you approach a pissed off drama queen on the street that is with three guys and that YOU nearly got into a fight about last week? Three guys get belligerent with you and you try to "out alpha" them by "plowing" on. <FACEPALM> You love drama and get sick pleasure out of it. I'm not saying it's necessarily conscious. It may be unconscious, but it's there.

We get into this big arguement, which was out of my hands. Eventually, I shut down the hostile vibe and talk to her, normally. We get talking, and my so-called friend popsout of the shop, with a bottle of brandy. Still drunk off of his head, he keeps cvckblocking, talking smack and trying to put me down. I ignore it and ask who he is, so he knows we're done. He then, walks off.

It's not out of your hands. WALK AWAY.

So I'mw ith this girl, and she hasn't got any money and left her purse with the two friends who are in the club. Yeah right. She tries to get on the bus, for free, but the bus driver doesn't allow her. Some random, girl gets up, like a damsel in distress and pays for her ticket. I'm gobbsmacked by now, so I get on too. After a while, her vibe and the whole situation with my so-called friend got to me. So I told her, see her later and good luck. I'm just in a pit of despair here.

I went back to dude's house to see what the problem was, to talk logically like a man, I hate unsolved problems, if we can't hang out, we can't. But fvck all the b!tching with it. So he opens up the door, with his hands out, a KNIFE is by his side, I'm like, dude, what are you doing, what is all this crap. He takes offense and says it's my fault why we didn't get in, shouting and extremely hostile.

You can't negotiate with terrorists or drunk guys. Just avoid this dude.

I don't backdown, and say talk, like a man, not like a girl. He then, gets the knife and jestures with it, asking me to say something, I'm like, I don't need to fight you, this is pathetic. You're a lonely dude with anger issues. he gets riled up again, continues to jesture and throws the knife on the floor. I tell him, that it's not the last he's seen of me, and walk away. I mean, seriously, I'm 22 and this dude is 30+, with no life, I'm not about to fight an emotionally unstable guy with a knife and nothing to lose who I've been hanging out with for the past 2-3 months.

You FINALLY walked away. The only wise thing you did all evening. But you confronted a psycho and left with a threat. Not good.

I'm just totally confused tonight, the world is a crazy place. Some people, are just *******s, who will fvck you over, with nothing to lose. I'll learn from this and see it for what it is. The bouncers, the girl who was a damsel in distress, who nearly got me into a fight a week ago, and having a knife pulled out on me by somebody I've been hanging out with?, LOL - Hmmm.

The world is a crazy place and the game is tough enough. But you are making it 100x more crazy and dangerous than it has to be. Lose the unstable wingmen. Learn to walk away and avoid fights before it's too late.
I would definitely start with a clean slate if I were you. Go out alone (or with a new NORMAL wingman), and hit some new clubs were you don't know anyone.
 

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my fault: hanging out with an unstable dude
my fault: knowing he's unstable and continuing to hang out with him
my fault: going back to his house, to figure out the issue when it wasn't called for.

Let me tell the entire story with the bouncers though. Which, isn't MY fault. I haven't been in a fight, EVER, in a club untill now. This club is packed full of spinaroonie's defintions in his 'Clubbing Over The Years' thread. I usually pull alot from there too, so I find it funny that all the negative has come with the positive recently.

It makes sense. Angry Dude who pulled a knife on me, constantly gets jealous when I pull and he's left standing, after I've got a number or makeout, I'll turn around and this dude is rolling up a roll up (tobacco), and i can see the dissatisfaction and hate on his chops. The bouncers are POWER-HUNGRY. All they want is, a for you to lick their arses, give them high-fives and pretend to like them. The main hateing bouncer, told me to come back around Christmas time and THEN he will TRY and speak to the owner of the club, why didn't he do that this weekend? Why are they saying it's only been 1 week, when it's been over 3 weeks? Because I didn't kiss their arse last night. If I did, I would've been in.

I got into a fight there 3 weeks ago, it wasn't even a fight, just a quarrel. I was actually laughing, and the dude kept coming for me, all the bouncers where holding HIM back, not me. I jestured with my fist, mucked around like I was shadow boxing, for my own self-amusement. To me, the fact that I didn't hit him, was me walking away. End off.

The bouncers wanted me out, and supposedly barred me for a WEEK. It's been more than 3 weeks now, and they're saying the same thing. I've come there, humble. I can understand, if I came there drunk and off my head, looking for trouble. These bouncers are power-hungry. Especially the lesbo.

Anyway, one of the bouncers, who i thought was cool, is actually an undercover hater. I'll explain why, he's seen me take and make out with girls who haven't given their number to him, right in his face, exactly after he's tried to game them. Everytime I go there, he's asked, for the last several girls, if I've been to see them or what is happening with them. He never looks in my eyes when he's talking, I can just feel the haterism there. I am a humble dude, when people accuse me of something, I agree and amplify, this is what p!sses them off. I never argue or overtalk them, I agree and amplify and have noticed this gets them more riled up. Its a power struggle. I'm not writing what I think is happening, this is what happens.

The situation with the girl who nearly got me into a fight too, I was actually talking and socialising with her, beforehand. Then, the 3 dudes came up and c-blocked me. As I'm walking with the girl and her friends, these dudes are extremely hostile about c-blocking too. Why should I take it on the chin and leave, when I approached her first? She even said that I remind her of her brother, having a "Braveheart".

This annoyed me, because I don't see why I should leave, due to a bunch of kids c-blocking me who thought they were taking the girls home. Everything about their game, was OFF. Desperate, pack mentality and hostile. So, last night, she said that these guys ASKED her that time, whether they should start a fight with me and she declined. This is the worst white knighting, c-blocking I've ever seen or experienced.

That same weekend, I saw her get into a car with these complete strangers, she asked me to buy her food, even though, she was rejecting me, just a straight up gold digger. Then, last night, getting on the bus with no money and having some random chick pay for her, damsel-in-distress. So, I've named my faults in this situation, however, the bouncers, drama girl and fighting taking place, is human nature.

Inner-game tells you to let go of your ego, I did. I never hit the dude in the club, although I was p!ssed as to why I was getting barred. the 3-guys c-blocking me, I carried on plowing. The girls wanted them gone from the get-go, even if she nearly got me into a fight, infact, she had the power in her hands to make it happen, because of the AFC Gangsterism and white knighting going on these days. If that makes me an arsehole, then I am one. I can live with that, there will be no conforming for anyones satisfaction.
 

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to the Op: you were drawlin

i sense victims mentality, i dont know you but i have worked at many clubs and can tell you i meet alot of guys like you. Big hearts, dont wanna back down ect. I dont know where exactly your from Ack, but where im from usually fighting over a random Jawn in the club, who hasn't even let you fvck isnt worth it. If shawti wanted nothing to do with those whiteknights she wouldnt have any problem dealing with them, with or without her braveheart. Bouncers def have females backs over anything as there are the clubs most valued customers. Where im from club disputes end in shoot outs. Fvck the lame with a kitchen knife, is your braveheart prepared for a shootout? Death or worse, quadrapelegic? This isnt youve seen the last of what???? We just rushed a "tough guy" to the hospital after he got jumped behind the club for getting too mouthy, the cats jumped him and then carved his face over 150 stitches. Over what a lil pvssy and too many drinks! This whole situation sounds stupid. The bouncers dont like you, regardless of what you did/didnt do its their house and its their job to filter out potential problems.
 

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