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I'm not some hideous monster or anything, in fact I think I'm fairly decent looking actually. I don't think I sound weird either, though I do happen to hate my voice on camera (just like everyone else does too I suppose). My voice carries really well too. I know how to dress without overdoing it, I don't feel awkward at all really and don't feel really anxious to ask a question or make a joke in class even if it is a giant lecture hall with over a hundred other people (I did that today actually and had a lot of people laughing). So what's the problem? It seems that everyone I talk to is either super socially awkward or seems unfriendly. I'm in my second year of college now and it is bothersome because I'm not really having any sort of wonderful college experience like how some other people have had (from what people say and what some other acquaintences say about other universities). I have no amazing stories about college that others have, and I swear I'm not a weird person.

Something that I've learned is that if you feel awkward talking about something then the other person will too, so I made it to where I rarely feel ianh sense of awkwardness at all. I try being extroverted and a little more outgoing but people in my university don't really seem to be that social. Last semester, 2 great friends of mine apart of our group from high school visited since they were looking at places to transfer to out of their two-year school and somehow we crossed paths. It was me, them two, and 4 or 5 other guys whom I had never met before. Those guys I never met before didn't seem unfriendly towards me or anything and it didn't feel weird talking to them like it does some other people here. Maybe it's because we had two mutual friends. Yet, if I talk to someone else here through a mutual friend that I somehow made, it still feels a little awkward usually. I don't have a closed or standoffish body language not an angry or unfriendly-looking facial expression either, I try to be as aware as I can with that stuff.

And the thing that really bothers me is that I see some other people looking around feeling weird not talking to someone so I'll take it upon myself to be that guy to talk to them and strike up a conversation. It goes alright at first but afterwards it just fizzles out and dies because I've ran out of things to say without sounding like a stalker. I know you are supposed to ask them questions about themselves to get them to open up to you and all, but at the same time you shouldn't be interviewing them either. I try to talk about myself a little bit to connect with them a little bit or seem at least somewhat relateable but I know you also shouldn't talk about yourself too much because you don't want to come off as too self-centered. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm still a VERY confident individual but man it does kinda chip away at you a small bit when you tell a chick that you like her sweatshirt (not because you are flirting with her or anything, but because you genuinely do like the sweatshirt that she is wearing) and they just act like you don't exist. Maybe she just didn't hear you or something, but it doesn't make it suck any less. It's even more discouraging when you try talking to someone and they seem almost relieved to be talking to you but afterwards seem like they don't want to talk anymore and then just play on their phone or laptop.

First day back here in uni, and I had the same problem last year as well. I even played a sport here too and it didn't make it any easier to make friends or eat chicks. I'm not doing it this year due to commuting making too hard. Last year I would wake up at 4:45 in the morning to get to practice at 6. I had to train 27 - 33 hours a week, on top of the 18 credit hours of classes I was taking, not to mention that I was still working 26 hours each week at my job and was forced to participate in this mandatory study-hall type thing that all student athletes needed to do for an additional 8 hours too. And I was a commuter. That was way too much for me at 17 years old, especially since I was still adjusting from high school to college. I guess this is partially to vent too. Thanks for listening if you made it this far.
 

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Bro college is not the way 80s an 90s movies make u believe it to be. Now adays its a place to indoctrinate youth to liberal ideas, put them into massive amounts of debt and in start people off with a fked up life.


What kind of college u at? Community college will never match university dorm room/on campus living. Im in a college town and last weekend i was partying with 7 hotties and my bro and i havent been in school in years


Its what you make it, but i also see that today its harder. U need to find the "cool" people and link with them. I say ur goal should be to add as many people on snapchat as possible. It really connects u with others.
 

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You're the I-phone generation. It's no surprise that kids raised on touch screens are handicapped at interpersonal communication. I think the sosuave consensus advice needs to amended for people your age in this current time. Maybe walking around like a smiling politician trying to shake everyone's hand isn't the best idea any more.

Our youngest Mod on here is about your age, and he appears to do very well with girls. He has mentioned asking for snapchat instead of numbers when he meets girls in person. I think that is a good example of working online communication into real-life encounters. I would suggest that you try to meet people online, but in online groups that are based on your location or school. People are going to be better at opening up to you in an online format, even if they are people you also see in real life. That's kind of fvcked up, but I just think it is where we are right now in society.
 

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You're the I-phone generation. It's no surprise that kids raised on touch screens are handicapped at interpersonal communication. I think the sosuave consensus advice needs to amended for people your age in this current time. Maybe walking around like a smiling politician trying to shake everyone's hand isn't the best idea any more.

Our youngest Mod on here is about your age, and he appears to do very well with girls. He has mentioned asking for snapchat instead of numbers when he meets girls in person. I think that is a good example of working online communication into real-life encounters. I would suggest that you try to meet people online, but in online groups that are based on your location or school. People are going to be better at opening up to you in an online format, even if they are people you also see in real life. That's kind of fvcked up, but I just think it is where we are right now in society.
So what you are saying is that some things learnt here on SS don't apply for the younger generations (more contact on snapchat than actual dating) ?
 

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Yes, but it's more about the overall theme. The formative years for sosuave were before modern cel phones, when to be on the Internet meant you were at home being an introvert. It hasn't been that way for the past ten years, though, and young people have become used to being glued to screens. I'm not telling you to be a snapchat orbiter, but if you can use that as your initial conversation to break the ice and build comfort before you meet in person, then it can be a valuable tool, especially for people who have difficulty communicating in person.
 

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There are those who watch things happen
There are those that ask, "what happened?"
And there are those that make things happen

Which are you?
 

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You're the I-phone generation. It's no surprise that kids raised on touch screens are handicapped at interpersonal communication. I think the sosuave consensus advice needs to amended for people your age in this current time. Maybe walking around like a smiling politician trying to shake everyone's hand isn't the best idea any more.

Our youngest Mod on here is about your age, and he appears to do very well with girls. He has mentioned asking for snapchat instead of numbers when he meets girls in person. I think that is a good example of working online communication into real-life encounters. I would suggest that you try to meet people online, but in online groups that are based on your location or school. People are going to be better at opening up to you in an online format, even if they are people you also see in real life. That's kind of fvcked up, but I just think it is where we are right now in society.
I made a promise to myself not to use any of that garbage when I was 15. I completely see what your saying. But I can't stand it because I felt like my social skills deteriorate whenever I use it. That was the real reason why I stopped using all that stuff in the first place. Not only that, but it forces you to compete with other people in terms of who has a 'cooler' life by having to post a whole bunch of crap. I'd rather enjoy a fun moment instead of feeling like I have to post about it so that others can see how 'cool' I am. It's pathetic. And it's too much work, all for some weak phony ass people to like you more. I tried taking myself off the internet completely (though I exist in several newspapers that I can't really take down, but that's it really).

Anyway, most of the people here don't use Snapchat. They lag behind a little bit and mostly use Facebook from what I see. Those who do have at least semi-decent social skills use Snapchat but they aren't all that common. Of those people, I made friends/acquaintances with. They aren't in any of my classes this semester though.
 

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There are those who watch things happen
There are those that ask, "what happened?"
And there are those that make things happen

Which are you?
All 3. I'm watching these people sit awkwardly around, while I wonder what the heck just happened with society, and then I try to open them up.

What's your take?
 

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All 3. I'm watching these people sit awkwardly around, while I wonder what the heck just happened with society, and then I try to open them up.

What's your take?
Throw a party, have a meetup, organize water rafting, I don't know... anything...

Strike up convo anywhere and everywhere...

Compliments and observations go a long way. If a man or woman has something that sticks out, they WANT people to notice...
 

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College sucks, I felt the same ******* way....lied to. It will be over soon though.
 

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From what I observe in my high school age children and college aged children of my friends the technology angle is the way to go.

So I agree it's different, but it isn't completely different. You need to improve your social standing and find the cool crowd. I was in Greek life, which does open lots of doors socially, and also in campus leadership (Student Senate etc.). In addition I played sports. In class I was a geek that sat on the front row and like you, I asked questions if it occurred to me. I also sought out study buddies to learn material in various classes.

What if you got into some study groups, took up an intramural sport or two, and became a regular patron at the popular social hub (coffee shop, cafe, etc.?). Either virtually or in real life you must create more social connections.

If you also work on finding people virtually via social media you'll build some social connections and work up your network. You can't isolate yourself and anger isn't going to help you.

I was quite socially awkward in high school, lost amongst all the other pretty girls who had better social calibration & socialized upbringings than I did.

So in college I made it a goal (besides studying hard), to learn social skills, make lots of friends, be cool, and have influence. I accomplished all those social goals. The people I met led me into my current career, taught me calibration, taught me self confidence, so many things. And along the way I had rough times too. Got my heart yanked out & broken, faltered on grades at one point, and gained a few haters. But I kept looking forward, picked myself up and thrived.

You need to set social goals just like you set academic goals. Work toward both simultaneously. You cannot isolate yourself AND expect some great experience. That is too passive. You gotta put yourself out there, virtually or IRL or both.

Get a job at a popular local restaurant or pub or club or coffee house. Just a part time gig will do great. I did that in college on top of pre med studies & Greek life. It was quite helpful.

Because of the dependence in the younger generation on social media, those with actual real life social skills have a big advantage going into the workforce, professional school, grad school or business. The following maxim remains true:

It ain't what you know; its WHO you know.

Make it a goal to find & meet the right people. I know you may not like that advice, but it's how the world runs. That has been the way of humans for millennia. It hasn't changed.
 

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From what I observe in my high school age children and college aged children of my friends the technology angle is the way to go.

So I agree it's different, but it isn't completely different. You need to improve your social standing and find the cool crowd. I was in Greek life, which does open lots of doors socially, and also in campus leadership (Student Senate etc.). In addition I played sports. In class I was a geek that sat on the front row and like you, I asked questions if it occurred to me. I also sought out study buddies to learn material in various classes.

What if you got into some study groups, took up an intramural sport or two, and became a regular patron at the popular social hub (coffee shop, cafe, etc.?). Either virtually or in real life you must create more social connections.

If you also work on finding people virtually via social media you'll build some social connections and work up your network. You can't isolate yourself and anger isn't going to help you.

I was quite socially awkward in high school, lost amongst all the other pretty girls who had better social calibration & socialized upbringings than I did.

So in college I made it a goal (besides studying hard), to learn social skills, make lots of friends, be cool, and have influence. I accomplished all those social goals. The people I met led me into my current career, taught me calibration, taught me self confidence, so many things. And along the way I had rough times too. Got my heart yanked out & broken, faltered on grades at one point, and gained a few haters. But I kept looking forward, picked myself up and thrived.

You need to set social goals just like you set academic goals. Work toward both simultaneously. You cannot isolate yourself AND expect some great experience. That is too passive. You gotta put yourself out there, virtually or IRL or both.

Get a job at a popular local restaurant or pub or club or coffee house. Just a part time gig will do great. I did that in college on top of pre med studies & Greek life. It was quite helpful.

Because of the dependence in the younger generation on social media, those with actual real life social skills have a big advantage going into the workforce, professional school, grad school or business. The following maxim remains true:

It ain't what you know; its WHO you know.

Make it a goal to find & meet the right people. I know you may not like that advice, but it's how the world runs. That has been the way of humans for millennia. It hasn't changed.
I try to read all responses to my threads even if ignored people respond. I made the mistake of reading yours. If I wasn't already trying to meet new people and work on my social skills (which by the way was the reason why I found out about this website, not because I wanted to get women), then I wouldn't have made this thread right now. Put me on ignore please.
 

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If you don't live on campus and don't live on the right campus you won't have the party uni experience where it's sex drugs and a bit of studying in between. When I was at uni there was one halls of residence where everything happened and you could find a party most nights. All the other halls were full of the people that studied hard which tended to be all the Chinese foreign students.

I also found that the people on my course didn't tend to socialise with each other out of class, they would be socialising with the people who lived in their halls etc..
 

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The fact that you're a commuter means you won't have access to the party scene for the most part. Living in dorms is crazy. And living in apartments near campus with friends is almost as crazy.
 

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The fact that you're a commuter means you won't have access to the party scene for the most part. Living in dorms is crazy. And living in apartments near campus with friends is almost as crazy.
I mean it's a commuter school. Way back in the day (like 70s, 80s, and early 90s) it used to be a really fun crazy school. But not anymore. Dunno what happened really
 

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I'm not some hideous monster or anything, in fact I think I'm fairly decent looking actually. I don't think I sound weird either, though I do happen to hate my voice on camera (just like everyone else does too I suppose). My voice carries really well too. I know how to dress without overdoing it, I don't feel awkward at all really and don't feel really anxious to ask a question or make a joke in class even if it is a giant lecture hall with over a hundred other people (I did that today actually and had a lot of people laughing). So what's the problem? It seems that everyone I talk to is either super socially awkward or seems unfriendly. I'm in my second year of college now and it is bothersome because I'm not really having any sort of wonderful college experience like how some other people have had (from what people say and what some other acquaintences say about other universities). I have no amazing stories about college that others have, and I swear I'm not a weird person.

Something that I've learned is that if you feel awkward talking about something then the other person will too, so I made it to where I rarely feel ianh sense of awkwardness at all. I try being extroverted and a little more outgoing but people in my university don't really seem to be that social. Last semester, 2 great friends of mine apart of our group from high school visited since they were looking at places to transfer to out of their two-year school and somehow we crossed paths. It was me, them two, and 4 or 5 other guys whom I had never met before. Those guys I never met before didn't seem unfriendly towards me or anything and it didn't feel weird talking to them like it does some other people here. Maybe it's because we had two mutual friends. Yet, if I talk to someone else here through a mutual friend that I somehow made, it still feels a little awkward usually. I don't have a closed or standoffish body language not an angry or unfriendly-looking facial expression either, I try to be as aware as I can with that stuff.

And the thing that really bothers me is that I see some other people looking around feeling weird not talking to someone so I'll take it upon myself to be that guy to talk to them and strike up a conversation. It goes alright at first but afterwards it just fizzles out and dies because I've ran out of things to say without sounding like a stalker. I know you are supposed to ask them questions about themselves to get them to open up to you and all, but at the same time you shouldn't be interviewing them either. I try to talk about myself a little bit to connect with them a little bit or seem at least somewhat relateable but I know you also shouldn't talk about yourself too much because you don't want to come off as too self-centered. I don't know what to do anymore. I'm still a VERY confident individual but man it does kinda chip away at you a small bit when you tell a chick that you like her sweatshirt (not because you are flirting with her or anything, but because you genuinely do like the sweatshirt that she is wearing) and they just act like you don't exist. Maybe she just didn't hear you or something, but it doesn't make it suck any less. It's even more discouraging when you try talking to someone and they seem almost relieved to be talking to you but afterwards seem like they don't want to talk anymore and then just play on their phone or laptop.

First day back here in uni, and I had the same problem last year as well. I even played a sport here too and it didn't make it any easier to make friends or eat chicks. I'm not doing it this year due to commuting making too hard. Last year I would wake up at 4:45 in the morning to get to practice at 6. I had to train 27 - 33 hours a week, on top of the 18 credit hours of classes I was taking, not to mention that I was still working 26 hours each week at my job and was forced to participate in this mandatory study-hall type thing that all student athletes needed to do for an additional 8 hours too. And I was a commuter. That was way too much for me at 17 years old, especially since I was still adjusting from high school to college. I guess this is partially to vent too. Thanks for listening if you made it this far.
You're there to get an education. Don't let that other stuff bother you so much. Just work on building your life out the way you want it to be, which getting an education is a very, very important part of that, and focus on the big picture. The 'ideal' college experience is EXTREMELY overrated.
 
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I mean it's a commuter school. Way back in the day (like 70s, 80s, and early 90s) it used to be a really fun crazy school. But not anymore. Dunno what happened really
Who knows. Could be more pressure on people these days. Tuition, family shyt, too busy living "socially" online etc.

You can't force anyone let alone everyone to want to talk to you or "like" you just like no one can.

Just be cool, socially open and free and make small talk when the opportunity arises. You might want to see if the college has some sort of "welcoming" committee for new students. Maybe you could help out and show people around. If you're great at a subject maybe offer tutoring. If they have a bulletin board or events etc. sign up or offer to assist in the event with the coordinator. Find out about the local college bars or hangouts and try to meet people of campus there. Once you start meeting a few people shyt will start to snowball and eventually you won't know what the hell to do with all the people you know.
 

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Looking back, I wasted four years in college. I already knew how to program. Then, by the time I graduated in 1993 and started working my job was being outsourced to India. Those extra four years could have made the difference if I had started working.

College women circa 1990 were a bunch of trashy hoes who would wake up in bed with someone from the varsity team, put their hair in a pony tail and walk around looking grouchy. We called it the freshly f*cked look.

I did have fun getting high with my guy friends, but college is even worse now.

Don't go to college.

That said, college aged women in 2017 are great as long as they voted for Trump (no lie - this is the #1 best indication) so find some unique activities to ask them out on.
 

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Just read my free ebook 22 Rules for Massive Success With Women and do the opposite of what I recommend.

This will quickly drive all women away from you.

And you will be able to relax and to live your life in peace and quiet.

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