I'm irritated by my wife's friend

[Bokanovsky]

Who cares, there is a saying I've adopted "I guess that's what happens to him then." you can say this about any situation.

Live and let live, mind your own buisness.

Back breaker. What your doing now, is just like when some one who is poor complains about how its unfair that you have money.

Exactly. Anytime I hear someone say "he doesn't deserve X" I know that I'm talking to a loser. Winners don't whine about things that other people have. They are too buys enjoying the fruits of their own success.

 

[backbreaker]

Whats the topic? It bothers bb that some guy who hasnt worked on a career or education can get a hot broad with out having to accomplish as much as bb did?

Who cares, there is a saying I've adopted "I guess that's what happens to him then." you can say this about any situation.

Live and let live, mind your own buisness.

Back breaker. What your doing now, is just like when some one who is poor complains about how its unfair that you have money.

This isn't about me. I got laid.. quite a bit, before i came to this site. Before I made any money before I did anything. I came here to this site because i wanted a specific girl that i could not get, not beucase i was clueless with women.

I got laid as a skinny High school kid woring at mcdonalds. by very cute girls.


I'm not going to do a speed dawg and throw flames at you but I don't think you understand my point

 

[backbreaker]

Whats the topic? It bothers bb that some guy who hasnt worked on a career or education can get a hot broad with out having to accomplish as much as bb did?

Who cares, there is a saying I've adopted "I guess that's what happens to him then." you can say this about any situation.

Live and let live, mind your own buisness.

Back breaker. What your doing now, is just like when some one who is poor complains about how its unfair that you have money.

This isn't about me. I got laid.. quite a bit, before i came to this site. Before I made any money before I did anything. I came here to this site because i wanted a specific girl that i could not get, not beucase i was clueless with women.

I got laid as a skinny High school kid woring at mcdonalds. by very cute girls.


I'm not going to do a speed dawg and throw flames at you but I don't think you understand my point


let me put this in another way in which im' sure you can understand


let me take one of my other friends, Aaron. Aaron is 33 years old, works in marketing for some financial firm or some **** i don't know exactly what he does lol but has a good job. About 5'11 ish, not bad looking but not a great looking guy. He just bought his first house about 6 months ago give or take

he's spent the last 2-3 years saving money to put as a down payment on a house. and paying off student loans. he doesn't have alot of extra income to go out and buy clothes and go to the gym beucase he's been responsible like society tells him to


this is my point. Aaron could very very very easily get laid, if he just.. said **** it. said **** the house,l said **** the student loans (Which he could not do lol), and just took all his money, moved in wiht his mom and just splurged on clothes and materialistic **** to attract women and protein bars lol.


my point being, there is nothing special about Shawn (the good looking dude). he goes to the gym and buys all this food **** because he has no other responsibilities. if Aaron had no other responsibilities he could dot he same thing. Probably better because he's 5'11 and not 5'7 like shawn is. And he's naturally smarter.


Aaron is being punished because he's responsible. the things that women find attractive and trindy, 100 dollar polo shirts, iphone 5s, blowing money, etc he can't do. he's the type of guy women look at and say he's nice, someone will marry him but then think "but not me he's not fun enough/attractive enough" there's nothing unattrctive about him he just doesn't get to spend his entire life worried about his attraction like shawn can.

I mean, do you really think when my mom told me to work hard and be smart and everything will work out that the avg man who did this would have to wait until his 30's because all of the women worth dating / marrying were out busy with guys who weren't doing any of this?


it comes back to my disdain for all things social media. it hypersexualies society and gives women unrealistic expectations of men.

that's why i'm agitated.

 

[HoneyHitter]

Whats the topic? It bothers bb that some guy who hasnt worked on a career or education can get a hot broad with out having to accomplish as much as bb did?

Who cares, there is a saying I've adopted "I guess that's what happens to him then." you can say this about any situation.

Live and let live, mind your own buisness.

Back breaker. What your doing now, is just like when some one who is poor complains about how its unfair that you have money.

Why are you trying to psycho-analyze backbreaker?

BB's simply saying that he's amazed how a guy who prioritizes image/appearance over career ambitions can end up with the same "quality" girl as a guy that does the opposite, if not better.
What he's getting at is that perhaps younger guys would be wiser to do the same and start going after a better career (university,better job) later in life.

And don't tell me to "mind my own business" on a ****ing discussion forum. I'll certainly call out people when they forcefully try to steer a thread off-topic. Especially when it's done in a way that disrespects the OP.

Send him a PM if you really want to help BB address his personal insecurities. All I care about is what he posted about.

 

[zekko]

BB's simply saying that he's amazed how a guy who prioritizes image/appearance over career ambitions can end up with the same "quality" girl as a guy that does the opposite, if not better.

Yeah, that's what he's saying. Part of the point is that girls do not always make the best choices.

What he's getting at is that perhaps younger guys would be wiser to do the same and start going after a better career (university,better job) later in life.

I don't think he's saying that. I would always recommend gettng your career in order over getting pvssy, girls be damned. He might be saying that maybe a responsible guy might be able to allot more money to gym, clothes, and dating.

my point being, there is nothing special about Shawn (the good looking dude). he goes to the gym and buys all this food **** because he has no other responsibilities. if Aaron had no other responsibilities he could dot he same thing. Probably better because he's 5'11 and not 5'7 like shawn is.

You have a tendency to equate more gym with better looking. As if any dude can just go to the gym more and be better looking than the next guy. That doesn't always work. That works for some guys (including you, apparently), but not for others. You said the first guy was good looking. Genetics can play a huge part in how good looking a guy is. Some guys can stay in shape without working out like crazy (especially when they're young).

But it's not all body. I know there is body fat and that can affect how chiseled your jawline is. But generally speaking, you can't get an attractive face by going to the gym.

 

[backbreaker]

You have a tendency to equate more gym with better looking. As if any dude can just go to the gym more and be better looking than the next guy. That doesn't always work. That works for some guys (including you, apparently), but not for others. You said the first guy was good looking. Genetics can play a huge part in how good looking a guy is. Some guys can stay in shape without working out like crazy (especially when they're young).

this dude would look good if he worked out everyday. he's not ugly. he's just not "hot". he could stand to lose 10-15 pounds. he could improve his wardrobe. but he can't because he doesn't have money or time to do either.

I don't think he's saying that. I would always recommend gettng your career in order over getting pvssy, girls be damned. He might be saying that maybe a responsible guy might be able to allot more money to gym, clothes, and dating.

my point being PRF said it earlier in this thread. it wasn't always like this

zekko, you're old lol, can you honestly sit here and tell me that 30 years ago Aaron would have pure hell getting dates the way he does now if he had his **** together like he does? 33 years old, avg looking guy, great job, owns a house, no bad habits, no felonies, white lol?

My point is that men should not have to chose one or the other in the first place.

I'm by no means saying that Aaron should slay as much as Shawn coul right now by any means. But the dude hasn't had a GF in a few years at least. he goes on dates they aren't interested. A responsible,(real') ambitious, not bad looking white guy should have a higher resale value than this. dammit. he doesn't even want to be a player. dude just wants a nice girl to settle down with. they all want a hot guy or a rich guy. until they can't get that anymore or until they are about at the age where they can't have kids anymore

and women go crazy about shawn. women are more interested in trying to get shawn to have a family and become more resopnsible they tehy are taking the responsible guy right now


i'll take it a step further. the girl's name is Amanda. if amanda actually moved in with aaron and they had a relationship and she paid some of the bills, aaron would then have the resources to dress better, workout more, because he's not paying for everything himself
it shouldn't be like this.



that agitates me.

 

[zekko]

zekko, you're old lol, can you honestly sit here and tell me that 30 years ago Aaron would have pure hell getting dates the way he does now if he had his **** together like he does? 33 years old, avg looking guy, great job, owns a house, no bad habits, no felonies, white lol?

My point is that men should not have to chose one or the other in the first place.

Ah, I see. Well, you're right, it is some bullsh!t right there. But once you've come to the point where women don't need men for their finances anymore, once you've come to the point where women can support themselves comfortably, then this is the end result. The dating field has become unbalanced with attractive women commanding more SMV. Outside of turning back the clock and revoking women's voting rights, I'm not sure what the solution is.

and women go crazy about shawn. women are more interested in trying to get shawn to have a family and become more resopnsible they tehy are taking the responsible guy right now

Sounds like Shawn has some sort of x factor going for him. Either he's really, really good looking or he has some sort of charisma about him, or both. Maybe his charisma helped him get that pizza management position, who knows lol?

 

[speed dawg]

This isn't about me.

Whoa........what a load of HORSESHIAT.

Simply put - you are the worst poster on this site.

 

[backbreaker]

zekko,


remember this girl is not what i would call a slut. she's not fast. im' not aggitated that she is dating this dude. that's not what it is. it's that she really wants a family and kids and a house and all that and she thinks that this guy is the best guy to give it to her all.

 

[zekko]

it's that she really wants a family and kids and a house and all that and she thinks that this guy is the best guy to give it to her all.

If that's the case, that brings up a few questions:
1. Does she have a decent job or other sources of income?
2. Does she come from a wealthy family?
3. (Maybe most important) Is the guy willing to commit to marrying her?

Clearly this guy isn't the best choice for a provider type, but at least he has a job. So she could probably make a worse choice as well, lol. Aside from the fact that he may not be very ambitious, it doesn't sound like he's a real dirtbag or anything.

 

[cordoncordon]

zekko,


remember this girl is not what i would call a slut. she's not fast. im' not aggitated that she is dating this dude. that's not what it is. it's that she really wants a family and kids and a house and all that and she thinks that this guy is the best guy to give it to her all.

But why do you care? I'm really lost as to why this bothers you. Of all the things going on in the world and in your life, something like why a girl friend of yours is dating a good looking pizza manager friend of yours has you in a tizzy? :crazy: If anything if this guy is your friend, you should be glad for the guy that he is dating 'up' so to speak. Be happy for him. And be happy for her that she is with someone that makes her happy, regardless of his social or job status. I look at all of the things that are going on in my life, from the stock market to family issues to working out to sports to what I'm doing with friends to my fiance etc etc, and wondering about why a friend of mine is dating such and such is so low on things to even consider worrying about that it doesn't even register. For example, I have a friend named Christian. Good looking guy. Works for Morgan Stanley. He is married and has a kid with a girl that I wouldn't look twice at looks wise. Has it crossed my mind wondering why he chose to marry her? Once or twice. Is it something that I would ever consider spending a fleeting moment worrying about? Not even once. I'm happy for him that he is with someone he loves and that is all that really matters. I know you have more going on in your life than this. Your job, horses, working out etc. So you are where you have to analyze and get upset about something so mundane and unimportant as this? I am not poo-pooing what you are saying, I appreciate any good dialogue on this site. I just am wondering why this of all things?

BB I think what it all boils down to is this. And this goes back to a number of other posts you have written about other females that you come across in your life. Because if you go back and look at a lot of the topics you have started the past few years, many have to do with other women besides your wife. I think you are very sexually frustrated. It bothers the hell out of you that you can't go around fawking all of these other women that you meet. You could fawk other women of course, but then you would be cheating on your wife and you don't want to risk losing that. But I get the distinct impression that you are one horny individual who is just not satisfied with one woman. Now, whether this has to do 100% with being horny, or if there are some other factors involved such as ego and proving to yourself that you still have "it"? I don't know. But imo you for sure want/need/crave more sex, more often, with more women. Don't get me wrong, you are male and in your prime and your body craves sex. I don't blame you a bit.

Perhaps you should see an escort once or twice a month just to have sex with someone new to get it out of your system. I would not recommend an affair with anyone, those can get way too complicated and imo its much worse because you are emotionally cheating as well. But an escort might be just what you need. You pay them to leave more or less. And I know there are some smoking hot ones here in the LA area.

 

[backbreaker]

cord that **** isn't even worth a response lol

If that's the case, that brings up a few questions:
1. Does she have a decent job or other sources of income?
2. Does she come from a wealthy family?
3. (Maybe most important) Is the guy willing to commit to marrying her?

Clearly this guy isn't the best choice for a provider type, but at least he has a job. So she could probably make a worse choice as well, lol. Aside from the fact that he may not be very ambitious, it doesn't sound like he's a real dirtbag or anything.

maybe aggitate is the wrong word. I'm confused i suppose, how a woman who is "not a slut" or "bpd" or a c0ck carousel rider, or all the other terms that we throw out here, can look at a guy who


okay i finally figured out how to say what i'm trying to say


let's look at what PRF said earlier

Lets add to the list:

1. Do hard drugs to kill his IQ so that he can relate to women better

2. Get a highly visible tattoo(this is the one thing you can do that will make your smv jump significantly overnight)

3. Reject morality and restraint


Understanding this when you have a strong personal morality and value system is the essence of the red pill. It helps you de-pedestalize women like no other understanding, when you realize that the vast majority of women get wet for evil and view your objectively positive endeavors as merely a means to an end, if not downright repulsive.

this is all true. and i would tell you that this were the case and this would attract a lot of women. I'm not at all suprised by the fact that this guy that i'm talking about has a very good looking girl in a LTR


what does surprise me is that a woman of her calibur, a woman who is college educated, normal, no bad druggie habits or anything, non partying all the time type woman who she has nothing in common with. she has a corporate 9-5 job he works at a pizza joint. she has a college education, he barley graduated HS.


It's one thing for his "game" to work on girls that are waitresses and **** like that but i'm flabbergasted that he's able to pull and keep this woman, and **** she's 29. she's not 23-24 years old. she wants a ring. like soon lol. she wants a baby. she actively talks about all this, yet, thinks still that this guy is the guy to provide it for her.

I don't mean to talk bad about the guy i know the guy. he's a good dude. I like him. But i'm still fascinated by this.


If you don't understand how i can be fascinated by the fact that educated women are falling for the same "flash game" as uneducated slutty women than you have ulterior motives to posting in this thread


It begs the question, at least to me, why is this happening. I really think it's social media's influence more than anything. This girl lives on instagram and it's like i suppose it's better to have a hot boyfriend that you can show off on social media than it is to have a stable one.

 

[taiyuu_otoko]

My point is that men should not have to chose one or the other in the first place.

Why not? Is there some fairy godmother in the sky who should give poor helpless folks what they want because they deserve it?

Is there some rule that dictates what women should be attracted to?

The generations are literally LITTERED with guys who CHOSE their careers over women.

(cake and eating it, etc.)

You can't escape one of the most fundamental laws of economics. Humans have infinite wants but live in a world with finite resources.

That means we HAVE to choose. We can't have something simply because we deserve it.

You want X? You can't get Y.

You want Q? You have to do Z for ten years without any hope of Y.

It's every individuals job on planet Earth to:

1) Figure out what they want

2) Figure out how to get it

3) Get it.

Whining how life isn't "fair" or that people should get something simply because they deserve it gets you nothing but grief. (but I guess otherwise they wouldn't have invented internet forums...)

Just ask William Munny:

Deserve's Got Nothing To Do With It

 

[cordoncordon]

cord that **** isn't even worth a response lol

Well I went back and looked at the amount of posts that you have created recently. Just since last June, or about 9 months, you have started a new thread about 10 different SPECIFIC women, and most of these women were described as good looking and 'sexy' in some way according to you. 10. Bro that isn't normal behavior, especially for a married man. I'm sure if I went back 2-3 years it's in the 20s or more. I am not criticizing you for this. Not judging. But it is obvious, to me at least, that you are subconsciously yearning for some strange. You may not even know it on a conscious level. You may want to deny it to me, the board, and even to yourself, but the numbers speak bro. The numbers speak. :cheer:

 

[backbreaker]

From my experiences, any girl who has not truly looked to "settle down" yet is cool with this kind of thing in their life. In their mind, they have all of the time in the world because they are EVERY guy's type.

If women did not approach "the wall" until they were 200 years old, they would party or date idiots right up until they were 198 years old.

this is interesting. so you're saying that even though she wants to settle down, subconsciously she isn't serious about it yet.

 

[Bokanovsky]

Well I went back and looked at the amount of posts that you have created recently. Just since last June, or about 9 months, you have started a new thread about 10 different SPECIFIC women, and most of these women were described as good looking and 'sexy' in some way according to you. 10. Bro that isn't normal behavior, especially for a married man. I'm sure if I went back 2-3 years it's in the 20s or more. I am not criticizing you for this. Not judging. But it is obvious, to me at least, that you are subconsciously yearning for some strange. You may not even know it on a conscious level. You may want to deny it to me, the board, and even to yourself, but the numbers speak bro. The numbers speak. :cheer:

Cordon, your mistake is taking brokebacker's posts at face value. The brokebacker online persona does not correspond to any actual real-life person. Most likely he does not even have a wife and the "girl friends" that he writes about probably don't exist either. For all intents and purposes, he could be some kid living in his mom's basement or an inmate at a some correctional facility.

Living an imaginary second life on the internet under a fake identity is an extremely common phenomenon:

http://www.experienceproject.com/question-answer/How-Many-People-Live-A-Fake-Life-On-The-Internet/206888