Im in love with TO's body (No Homo!)

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I just saw last night this magazine with terrel owens on the cover, i didnt know that homie was that big and cutted up, thats my dream body right there, matterfact ima go buy that magazine right now, for motivation everyday.

anybody knows how to achieve a body like that, thats my dream body that i want to achieve, i mean god damn it, im not gay but it even makes me go dang, lol.
 

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You need:

1. Black guy genetics (not being racist at all, on average blacks have better genetics for muscularture than whites)

2. Terrel Owen's specific genetics

3. Terrel Owen's workout, diet and training regime

Not to discourage you, but you'll never get the exact same body as any named sportsman/bodybuilder - simply because they're genetically gifted.

However, put in the hard work with diet and training, use them as role models, incentives and inspiration, and you'll get fairly close and achieve awesome results with your own genetics.

You might have BETTER genetics than Terrel, who knows..
 

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Well im black so that brings me one step closer :)

whats a good diet though to gain muscle
 

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Steroids? Read The Adonis Complex - it'll tell you exactly how to get almost every professional athlete's body.
 

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Originally posted by Warboss Alex
1. Black guy genetics (not being racist at all, on average blacks have better genetics for muscularture than whites)
I think that this is just because darker skin looks more cut than lighter skin. (might just be my opinion though)

If you look at Irish boxers (who have low body fat %) they look less cut than black boxers who have have the same body fat percentage.

Also, in 'before & after' photos for weight loss commercials, the after photos are ALWAYS tanned.

My opinion (not saying this as a fact, it may just be my opinion):
I think that darker skin emphasis the shadows in the ridges of the muscle to make it look more impressive.
 
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I think that this is just because darker skin looks more cut than lighter skin. (might just be my opinion though)

If you look at Irish boxers (who have low body fat %) they look less cut than black boxers who have have the same body fat percentage.

Also, in 'before & after' photos for weight loss commercials, the after photos are ALWAYS tanned.

My opinion (not saying this as a fact, it may just be my opinion):
I think that darker skin emphasis the shadows in the ridges of the muscle to make it look more impressive.
that is true! darker skin make believe of a healthier lookin skin! ever lookd at a white guy n a tan guy? damn the tan guy skin difienately show more impresive, physically fit, musclelur lookin skin. so i got bad news N good news for all of U! good news? well u dont have 2 be black 2 attain the achivement of a musclelur body! Bad news? Well nothing can be achive by sittin on ur ass at the house. You(yes U!) have 2 work ur ass off in order to begin to grasp your goal.
 

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True, but by and large blacks tend to have a slightly different ratio of different muscle fibres, which make them more receptive to specific training, as well as slightly different skeletal/muscle structures. Of which is one of the reasons that a caucasian becoming the fastest man in the world is highly unlikely.
 

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Darker skin does make your muscles look impressive (I'm greek and fortunate enough to be well tanned six months of the year so I know), but blacks generally have better muscle-building genetics than whites.

Black guys can go to a gym, do a half-assed workout and still grow, where caucasians couldn't.. and in the same way, a caucasian could do a half-assed workout and grow more than an asian, etc etc.

Bottom line is to get yourself as far as possible with your own genetics, and unless you're extremely unlucky, everyone's got the genetics for an awesome physique - some may find it easier to obtain, others more difficult.

A good example is Dorian Yates - average genetics as far as I'm concerned, and yet he worked his guts out, used brutally heavy weights and came on top of the world.

Hard work chaps.
 

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Originally posted by Warboss Alex


A good example is Dorian Yates - average genetics as far as I'm concerned, and yet he worked his guts out, used brutally heavy weights and came on top of the world.

Are you kidding me? You don't win 6 Olympia's during the most competitive era in the history of bodybuilding and build arguably the best back and calves in the history of mankind with average genetics.
 

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Are you kidding me? You don't win 6 Olympia's during the most competitive era in the history of bodybuilding and build arguably the best back and calves in the history of mankind with average genetics.
I'd agree with Warboss on this one. Genetically wise, there were many superiour bodybuilders at the time (Wheeler, Ray, Dillet), guys that could train in 12-15 rep ranges with weak weights and still put on mass. Dorian's routine was pure HIT, other pros who watched him trained always stated that it was crazy how perfect his reps / tempo were. Many pros said he had the craziest work ethic. The guy basically kept track of everything he ate / the way he trained since he started working out.

Also, when you look at Shawn Ray or Flex Wheeler, genetically, they had much better bodies/symmetry. Dorian on the other hand trained differently, and was able to put on more mass due to his work ethic. That was his edge.

If it was up to me tho, Shawn Ray would have won all those Olympias. His symmetry was near perfect, shoulder to waist ratio was great, etc. Dorian came to a lot of olympias with a bloated gut and still scored higher, which was bs. Judging in olympias is wack.
 

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Originally posted by MindOverMatter
I'd agree with Warboss on this one. Genetically wise, there were many superiour bodybuilders at the time (Wheeler, Ray, Dillet), guys that could train in 12-15 rep ranges with weak weights and still put on mass. Dorian's routine was pure HIT, other pros who watched him trained always stated that it was crazy how perfect his reps / tempo were. Many pros said he had the craziest work ethic. The guy basically kept track of everything he ate / the way he trained since he started working out.

Also, when you look at Shawn Ray or Flex Wheeler, genetically, they had much better bodies/symmetry. Dorian on the other hand trained differently, and was able to put on more mass due to his work ethic. That was his edge.

If it was up to me tho, Shawn Ray would have won all those Olympias. His symmetry was near perfect, shoulder to waist ratio was great, etc. Dorian came to a lot of olympias with a bloated gut and still scored higher, which was bs. Judging in olympias is wack.
As far as shape and structure goes he wasn't as gifted as Shawn, Kevin, or Flex but to say he only had average genetics is downright ridiculous. He had better genetics for size than just about everybody while still maintaining decent shape. Not to mention the insane stone granite conditioning he got into that nobody to this day can match.

I feel that Kevin Levrone deserved a large amount of those Olympias. I also prefer Shawn or Flex's physique over Dorian's but you cannot say that Dorian only had average genetics. There's a reason the top 10 at the O is basically the same guys every year. They are the genetic elite when it comes to building a physique. He won the show 6 times. It's debateable how many times he should've won but it is not dabatable whether he belonged in the top 5. Placing top 5 makes you a genetic freak.
 

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Originally posted by Warboss Alex
Bottom line is to get yourself as far as possible with your own genetics, and unless you're extremely unlucky, everyone's got the genetics for an awesome physique - some may find it easier to obtain, others more difficult.

A good example is Dorian Yates - average genetics as far as I'm concerned, and yet he worked his guts out, used brutally heavy weights and came on top of the world.

Hard work chaps.
For Dorian Yates, I'd argue that his genetics matter less than the amount and type of steroids he took. Seriously. Read The Adonis Complex.
 

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Originally posted by naoi deag se deag
For Dorian Yates, I'd argue that his genetics matter less than the amount and type of steroids he took. Seriously. Read The Adonis Complex.
so any guy could look like him if they used the same drugs:rolleyes:

where is this Adonis Complex?
 

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Originally posted by naoi deag se deag
For Dorian Yates, I'd argue that his genetics matter less than the amount and type of steroids he took. Seriously. Read The Adonis Complex.
when it comes to pros, steroids don't matter at all. why? because all pros take them hence the playing field is even. for example, put ronnie coleman on stage with king kamali. both of them take ridiculous roids, yet ronnie will win everytime. why? better genetics, diet, and work ethic. all there is to it.
 

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Originally posted by Prophett
all you dumbasses who say it's because of black genetics need to get your heads out of your proverbial a$$es!
bwahhaa... you're the one that needs to get your head out of your a$$ dude.

People love to believe that everything in the world can be bred. They love evolution/darwinism, breeding plants, breeding animals, and everything. If you can breed specific traits into plants and animals, then doesn't it follow that you can do the same in humans....


....exactly, and that is why people are the way they are. Black people are going to have superior muscle building genetics because they were bred for it. The reason you're going to flame this post is because ify ou believei n breeding humans, then it's sure hard to believe that everyone is created equally, now isn't it. That would mean we would be able to breed smartness...... waiiiiit yes we can. There's places all over the planet where two really smart people have a damn smart kid, thus a proven gift of genetics.

Thus, we're going to say that humans can be bred, and then certain races and certain peoples from certain parts of the world are going to have an easier time building muscle and building bodies that they want.
 

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Originally posted by Fatality
so any guy could look like him if they used the same drugs:rolleyes:

where is this Adonis Complex?
That's not what I'm saying. I just think it's foolish to tell people they can look like T.O. or Dorian Yates with just hard work. I respect bodybuilders like almost no other athletes, but I don't like the way society seems to ignore that guys like Ronnie Coleman or Yates would not look anything at all like they do if they weren't on steroids.

Bradshaw, that's the book. I urge everyone on here to read this... it'll really open your eyes. I started noticing how many steroidal dudes there are in my uni gym after I read it, where before I never saw it. It's crazy.
 

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Originally posted by naoi deag se deag
That's not what I'm saying. I just think it's foolish to tell people they can look like T.O. or Dorian Yates with just hard work. I respect bodybuilders like almost no other athletes, but I don't like the way society seems to ignore that guys like Ronnie Coleman or Yates would not look anything at all like they do if they weren't on steroids.

I agree. Steroids or not, when it comes to building a physique they are the genetic elite.
 

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