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He's either secretly into you and shamed to admit it, or he's straight and wants Molly. Drama. Generally I laugh these things off but if I feel low-self esteem I fail miserably and start thinking of ways to one up them. If I feel good like atm though, I just laugh it off and use it for entertainment. Most guys sense this and don't even try. They rip on defensive targets.
 

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Jack Wealthy said:
He's either secretly into you and shamed to admit it, or he's straight and wants Molly. Drama. Generally I laugh these things off but if I feel low-self esteem I fail miserably and start thinking of ways to one up them. If I feel good like atm though, I just laugh it off and use it for entertainment. Most guys sense this and don't even try. They rip on defensive targets.
Fair. Tolle talks a lot about being nonreactive so I definitely kept it in mind. He was really passive-aggressive though, much more willing to insult me to Molly than to me directly. I just put a little pressure on him and he generally backed off.

Also Molly got a call from a friend and I chatted her up really successfully. I could see that it impressed both of them, so that was a nice bump for my ego.

On him being secretly into me, it's possible based on things he would say but I sincerely hope not. I slept in his bed for comfort's sake, I would have slept in his sister's if she weren't around. Actually I brought up his hostility at that point, said simply that I got bad vibes, and while I didn't mind around Molly, since I've done all that I'd want to do with her, in a situation where I needed a wingman, I trusted that he would man up and support me. He agreed, and said that his attitude had come from how he was used to acting around her and other camp friends. I know guys who make themselves popular based on testing other guys, so that strategy certainly works, but I would never choose to be friends with those people.
 

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Went to a friends cabin this weekend, 5 guys and one dad. Nothing too crazy, but 2 of the guys are very high value people, one fits in with them because he DJ's, and one chills and makes funny comments. I ended up getting them into freestyling in a very natural way, they had no idea that I knew how to do it, and they enjoyed trying it out. I'm sure this will help me down the line.

Took a girl out when I got home today. First invited her for ice cream last night, she said she was leaving to go back to college but that it might work. Texted her today and worked it out. We didn't know of an ice cream place between where we live, but I played it off with "Mexican and ice cream are basically the same right? Lets do that"

She rejected me a long time ago (just after inviting me to her prom). I went in for a kiss after a friendly game of frisbee, and she pulled away. No words spoken but we both knew (I think I talked about texting her at one point). That was actually the beginning of my transformation to a person worth being. I had reached probably the unhappiest point in my life just before that, and when that prom rolled around, I was ready to let go of the tension and relax. Nothing happened but I had a fun night, and my life has only slowly gotten better from there.

I got there first, 5 minutes late, and got food without her (I really liked this choice, made me feel independent and like I was already doing something when she came in). We hugged, she sat across from me and we talked a lot about college. We started walking around this shopping center. She joked that she couldn't tie shoes, so I untied mine and made her prove that she could. Some physical contact. I put my arm around her once, and she tightly hugged me back, I walked in front of her and stopped short, making her bump into me, and I pushed her off her path when walking. Generally playful, no awkward moments. Ended up sitting with her outside a restaurant, and she told me what tattoos she wanted to get (they were funny, a mustache on her finger, and faces on all of her toes). I noticed something about her freckles being in a perfect rectangle, and touched her face to demonstrate it. Around then we hugged good bye and headed out.

The good-bye was a little awkward, maybe she expected me to try and kiss her. It was all good, and she repeated her invitation to come and visit her at college.
 

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Felt bad today. I need to stop masturbating (again! gotta work this out) and start meditating. I'll let yall know how it works out.
 

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Jack Wealthy said:
Awkward = good.
In every context? I understand its connection to sexual tension, but how much should I pursue that?

We had some silent eye contact moments, but I wouldn't call them awkward. Any case, I'm not necessarily pursuing her, she's in a sorority.
 

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In every context? I understand its connection to sexual tension, but how much should I pursue that?

We had some silent eye contact moments, but I wouldn't call them awkward. Any case, I'm not necessarily pursuing her, she's in a sorority.
I don't get that sorority comment.

As a rule of thumb, if every moment with you is awkward it is better than no awkward moments. Common sense really, if she says "Hi" and you say "Good thanks" that's neither good nor bad, just hilarious. Probably good actually. I guess it depends on your mood/confidence, if you were really shy you'd probably obsess over that failure and why you can now never get the girl. Awkward moments where she has no idea what you're saying aren't good either, but still aren't bad. Really they're a lead in for touching so maybe they are good. When you call the teacher mum. Still hilarious but... I can't think of many awkward moments which are only bad. They do exist though.
 

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Oh I'll be visiting her at some point. As long as she has a good opinion of me I'll have some proof for her sisters.

And I appreciate that your post wasn't a criticism so much as a funny reflection on social interaction, I was about to get defensive. Don't worry, I'm getting over being allergic to awkwardness. The Power of Now helps a lot with that.
 

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Went to an art award ceremony today. I submitted a portfolio and one individual piece, so I came away with it with 9 gold certificates (lots of people get them though). The pieces are qualified for the national competition so that's nice. Art girls are hot. Wanted to strike up conversation with them but my mom was around. I stayed present and waited for an opportunity window to present itself. Went to the gallery where they were displaying my stuff, went to take a picture with my pottery right after a cute girl walked away from it. She came up to me and said "Oh you made those? They're so cool!" I smiled and said thanks, wished I knew how to progress further with my mom right there.

Working on harmonica a lot the past few days. I'm giving it total prioritization in my free time. I want to get somewhere with this skill.

Going to a bonfire thing tonight. Attractive guys I'm friends with invited attractive girls. I just want to get in there and make good impressions. We'll see what happens. I'm in a good, zen state while writing this. If anyone is into zen, reach that state in yourself and read Plato's Republic. It's a powerful text, look at "justice" as mindfulness.
 

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Good luck with the bonfire thing bro :)

I'm not sure about your mum but mines pretty cool with this type of things. She told me when I was 14 she didn't want a 16 year old virgin as a son- in a nicer way. I basically do this **** in front of her, but I don't do approaches because I feel weird. If I open/get opened in a line or in a store or something I just go like normal except less physical so I don't freak my mum out.

My dad just **** blocks.
 

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Good luck with the bonfire thing bro :)

I'm not sure about your mum but mines pretty cool with this type of things. She told me when I was 14 she didn't want a 16 year old virgin as a son- in a nicer way. I basically do this **** in front of her, but I don't do approaches because I feel weird. If I open/get opened in a line or in a store or something I just go like normal except less physical so I don't freak my mum out.

My dad just **** blocks.
My mom has never spoken to me about sex in her life. She gets uncomfortable when I go to parties or on dates. Wish I could pull that off.

So last night, went to that thing. 4 guys I'm close friends with (almost the same 4 as last weekend's cabin) and 3 girls, already assigned to their boyfriend or the approximation of one. One other girl was there, the ex of the last guy from the cabin. It was relaxed, sitting around a fire. I made a good, calm impression on people, and I was the only one who brought substances (the basic ones) so that helped give me credibility (though most of them only drink).

My friend's ex who was there is a huge flirt. I've known her for long enough and she dated such a close friend for so long that I would never go for it, but she got hot as hell when she got her braces off. There was a 3 or 4 minute span where we started by alternately sitting on one another, then switched to squeezing next to each other in one chair. We sat there whispering jokes, laughing loudly and doing screamo singing impressions. The rest of the group got a little quieter to watch us having fun. She and her boyfriend just broke up, so I hope that doesn't start any drama, but I think little things like that will help the 2 girls (who I'd never met before, as well as the third who is close with my ex) see me as a viable candidate for dating their friends.

I also got a chance to freestyle with the one other member of the group who picked it up strongly. He also DJ's so his sense of rhythm makes sense. Certainly helped him with his girl.

I left to go to steak and shake with my friends Sean and Derek (You'll notice that I sometimes do made up names, sometimes real ones, and it gets hard for me to keep track. I do this for no reason and choose names at random). We blazed immediately before going in. Peaked on sitting down. The waitress came over and said immediately, "Are ya'll high?" Derek goes, "Uh no" and she says "You lyin." then takes our order. She said she was tired, and wasn't in a great mood.Derek is a character, though, and still chatted with her and she couldn't help but laugh. He's black, as was our waitress, so he got a chance to prod her in a way only he could (like when she slipped and said "aw, nig-" after getting off the phone). For my part, I was consciously gentle and polite to the staff, but I did cause a scene. I slipped and spilled my water all over my pants and the floor. I quickly moved to get napkins, and our waitress came to help clean it up. Then, 5 minutes later, I did it again, and a second waitress, a cute little blond, came to help me, and spilled the water again herself. Then she offered to get me a cup with a lid, and I immediately accepted.

We got up to pay our tabs, I left a polite "Have a nice night" to the table of businessmen behind us, and we went to the register. After paying, Derek went to give our waitress her tip, and I stayed behind for a second with the blond. I wanted to say "You were so sweet tonight, can I call you sometime?" but changed at the last moment and said "You were the sweetest person tonight, so I need to ask, who's the lucky guy?" and she replies, "Oh there's no lucky guy. There is a lucky girl though." So I laugh with "Oh that's cool!" and we head out of the restaurant. That is the first direct move I've made on someone I didn't know. Really glad it happened.
 

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We got up to pay our tabs, I left a polite "Have a nice night" to the table of businessmen behind us, and we went to the register. After paying, Derek went to give our waitress her tip, and I stayed behind for a second with the blond. I wanted to say "You were so sweet tonight, can I call you sometime?" but changed at the last moment and said "You were the sweetest person tonight, so I need to ask, who's the lucky guy?" and she replies, "Oh there's no lucky guy. There is a lucky girl though." So I laugh with "Oh that's cool!" and we head out of the restaurant. That is the first direct move I've made on someone I didn't know. Really glad it happened.
More like verbal move now. I had a little bit of game over on that college campus. Still, it was a big accomplishment.

But here's a much larger opportunity. Snoop Dogg/Wiz Khalifa concert in Atlanta. I have a ticket, as does a black friend of mine. I invited him and tried to get girls to come too, but couldn't get any. I'll have to let him know that its only us, though he never questioned whether there would be others.

I know that the only way this night can go well is if I can step in there and immediately open sets directly. No indirect weak and lazy stuff. I want to have a sexual interaction with as many girls as possible, and see who repels and who sticks.

I plan to be peacocked in rasta colors a little bit. If I can vibe with people, and make them like me, they'll appreciate it, otherwise it'll be try hard. I don't remember when my last slip up was, but I'm on strict no mb until after saturday night.

All I need to do is muster up the courage to say hi, to a lot of people, right off the bat. Any delay will kill my momentum.
 

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(Y) makes everything easier when you're that way right of the bat. Nothing is as challenging. It also establishes you as a part of the vibe, not someone trying to get in on it. As in people feel like you belong and have a role, not like you're another thirsty mouth who they are indifferent about.

Hmhm don't get the first part of your post.

Direct moves numb you a lot faster and longer lasting. I've been looking at drug comparison charts all morning and it reminds me of hydrocodone vs oxycodone.

Alright, worth mentioning, my usual 'move' is the highly direct "HEY, I'm Jaedon." With eye-contact, a handshake and a space invasion. It is very obvious what you are there for. Never gone direct at a party before which is pretty hilarious. I think a compliment and a statement of intent would work well though. Just "Hey, I wanted to meet you because you look exciting. I'm Josh." with a lot of energy though. Or very relaxed. Either extreme works for going sexual, which is the ultimate goal.

^Fvck that all seems confusing. I'm a bit scattered atm and not focusing good.
 

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Jack Wealthy said:
(Y) makes everything easier when you're that way right of the bat. Nothing is as challenging. It also establishes you as a part of the vibe, not someone trying to get in on it. As in people feel like you belong and have a role, not like you're another thirsty mouth who they are indifferent about.

Hmhm don't get the first part of your post.

Direct moves numb you a lot faster and longer lasting. I've been looking at drug comparison charts all morning and it reminds me of hydrocodone vs oxycodone.

Alright, worth mentioning, my usual 'move' is the highly direct "HEY, I'm Jaedon." With eye-contact, a handshake and a space invasion. It is very obvious what you are there for. Never gone direct at a party before which is pretty hilarious. I think a compliment and a statement of intent would work well though. Just "Hey, I wanted to meet you because you look exciting. I'm Josh." with a lot of energy though. Or very relaxed. Either extreme works for going sexual, which is the ultimate goal.

^Fvck that all seems confusing. I'm a bit scattered atm and not focusing good.
S'all good, I liked the insight. I'm not going to overthink what I'll say or what mood I'll be in at this concert. Any thought is only going to mess me up. I'm going to approach several times before I start strategizing, and hopefully by then I won't need to.
 

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Been reading lots of positive quotes from famous people, noticing how much my values line up with those of success, and how they line up with people explaining how to be happy. I'm on the right track for my life and that feels great.
 

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Failed no mb. Anyone have advice for consequences to follow that? I need a system to ensure that I won't fail in the future (but I have cut back a lot since starting this thread. Very glad about that.)

ALSO: Weekend update. The friend I would be going to the concert with tomorrow bailed. The show will still be bumping, but I'd be going alone. Might mess with my state. There will also be a party going on tomorrow. How should I handle this? Go to the concert then the party after? Might miss significant parts of the fun, but that could be the best compromise.
 

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Jack Wealthy said:
I was in that situation last week. I went from the big party to the chill party. Chill party sucked scroat.
Yeah I figure I'm going to the concert. Haven't gotten an official invite to the party, so I might go after but I'll wait til I do. Also it's the usual crew (I messed up with Julia at one of these) so I might want to give them a break from me. Also this concert gets to be a no-regrets, make a fool of myself situation. Anyone have advice for warm-up openers? My plan is to go in, turn to the first group I see and say (almost yell) "HEY! Are you guys having a good time? You're under my wing now, I need to make sure you're having a good time." I have no plans beyond that, but if I can get my momentum rolling I know I can find a girl who wants to know me.

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About the Mb thing man, its not easy bra. But you gotta pull through man, The best thing that works for me bra, is to find a substitute for Mb, for me is games. It could be exercise for you or something.
Maybe. I already have a lot of passions and things going on, between rapping, dance, harmonica, ceramics and the less-serious ones (foosball, videogames, basketball, etc).
It's not that I don't have other things to do, it's that I have trouble stopping the thoughts once they get rolling. Then I figure it can't hurt if I mess around, I just won't finish (this is sometimes true), but I inevitably mess up. I need a consequence, to say "You messed up. Here is a chore that will make you remember not to mess up again."
 

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Just approach the first girl on your left. What you say wont matter.

Have a rule that if you start messing around, you lost, cause you generally have.
 
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