I'm going to call this girl and ask her to hang out for a second time

[three57]

I hung out with her once before, we made out, she said she's into me, and said that she wants to hang out again.

I'm going to call her and I imagine the conversation will go something like this.

"hey whats up?

-nothing

we should hang out thursday before work

-sounds good

all right, I'll pick you up around noon"

should I be saying more? making small talk? how would you do this differently?

 

[Black_Italian]

Amateur.

Ninja out

 

[three57]

Originally posted by Black_Italian
Amateur.

EXACTLY!

I don't know what the hell I'm doing. Can you provide any constructive criticism?

 

[Centaurion]

http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

 

[three57]

Originally posted by Centaurion
http://www.jbspencer.com/djb/

I've read practically everything in there.

I'm having a hard time putting it into practice.

 

[HalfAddict]

There's many Factors involved.

Time, Place, Age. When did you get her number.

How long have you known her. Did you have any actual conversation.

There's more crap but I don't really care.

 

[Centaurion]

Originally posted by HalfAddict
There's more crap but I don't really care.

thats the attitude

 

[three57]

you guys are bringing my confidence down

 

[cyjay201]

Originally posted by three57
you guys are bringing my confidence down

Three, I am in no way a master don juan, but there's something from this site that I've learned.

You've read the bible, you've studied it, and yet you still say you can't put it into action?

Here's my advice. You have all the information that you've learned from the bible, but the bible's teachings are not set in stone, this isn't a cult, you can do whatever the hell you want.

The confidence is inside of you, you're just caring too much. Stop giving a ****, grab your balls and do it man. If she doesn't want to hang out, her loss. The hell with her, you don't need her anymore.

I used to post questions to the experts on this board all the time, but after a few problems, and realizing that some women arent worth it, it made me realize that my problems were extremely stupid, and now I know I can solve them on my own if I use my resources at this site, and my gut.

You want to hang out with her? WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? Call her up, tell her what you want to do, if she makes an excuse, try to plan a different day, if she rejects again then just say "alright, well if you want to hang out YOU CALL ME." Then dont call her anymore.

It saves you time, and her time, chances are if she has a moderate IL she'll end up coming back to you.

My point is we can only do so much for you, you have the information you need, now put it into use, and find your own methods necessary in order to execute your plan.

hope my post helped.

 

[three57]

thanks man.

 

[Johnnie5]

cjay201 has it right on the money

decide what you want to do and tell her what you are doing, would you like to come along ?

 

[Alphathree]

three57, I'm sorry some people here get high off of being jerks without actually helping.

Just don't read anything with a negative vibe to it. It does hurt your game, and needlessly. Avoid threads with a negative vibe, too, unless you can help the person overcome the negativity.

You need to be able to take on their negativity and hold it in a little psychological bubble without letting affect you.

I'm glad that you've planned your conversation. I think especially if you haven't internalized a lot of your game, planning is great. It doesn't have to be CANNED, but certainly PLANNED.

Unless your phone game is good (translation: unless you can build attraction verbally with consistency), make the phone conversation SHORT.

Get what you want and get out. If you aren't building attraction and/or rapport over the phone, there's no reason to stay on the darn call.

It has the built-in bonus of making sure YOU end the call early, which does wonders for your value and challenge level.

The actual words you use don't matter. Say what you need to say to get what you want.

You can bend a little bit for her, but if she's flaky about the date, prepare yourself to abort.

You abort not because you're hoping to change her ways, but because you respect yourself and you don't have time for this flaky bullsh*t.

 

[flexion_]

On the phone there is no need for small talk. The less time on the phone the better. Save all the talk for when you two are in person.

The phone conversation you described sounded pretty good to me. Don't try and have a 1/2 hour conversation with her - she won't like you anymore for it... if nothing else... she'll like you less if you do talk to much on the phone.

 

[three57]

I found a better way to do it. Instead of asking her if she would like to hang out on a specific date, I asked her if she would rather hang out on thursday or friday.

She said that thursday sounds good, but gave me a maybe because she's got a cold. the irony is that I probably gave it to her. I kiss closed her last friday and the next day I came down with a terrible cold. and am just now getting over it. but she's still pretty sick.