I'm dropping AD's machine. I have no choice.

[IamtheAlphamale]

It does not work for me. I don't get girls doing this anymore. I am pretty much reknown for my masculinity. Girls always tell me I'm unique and **** like that. Anyways I don't have girls just throw themselves at me anymore and when they do they switch up to hard to get very quickly. If I only go for girls who do not play games I would not get a piece exept from -8hb's and I don't touch under 8's unless I'm really in the bag. I have a fair amount of experience with girls using games because I have watched them use it on me obviously. OH man also if you guys goto guelph theres this one girl who I worked with and her game was just up against mine for like a year and a half. She got great at it. Shes going to mind **** people like noone else. Anyways Ad's machine is not always suitable.. I wish it was but its not.

 

[Obsidian]

girls playing games gets them no where. Teaching a girl to play games is like giving your child a handgun.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

Its all a matter of value man. If a girl thinks your barely in her league shes going to use strategies in order to keep you there. If she wants a relationship with you and her looks and niceness are not enough shes going to use cosmo **** its just the way it is.

 

[Kev07]

I thought AD's machine was to seperate the bad from the good, so you can find good lt material

it wasn't meant to be used to get laid

 

[Phyzzle]

Ultimately, yes, AD was about getting the best girls for you. This means finding the ones with the highest interest in you - NOT the ones you find the hottest!

Some guy on here talked about the time he came home to find all his fiance's stuff gone from his house. He never saw her again. No note, no nothing.

If you don't want that to happen to you, then don't get engaged to that HB9+ who stood you up twice the 1st 5 dates you had.

If a girl thinks your barely in her league shes going to use strategies in order to keep you there. If she wants a relationship with you and her looks and niceness are not enough shes going to use cosmo **** its just the way it is.

Chicks with high interest won't play any games to keep you distant, because they can't. Doing that requires self-control: something that women don't have!

theres this one girl who I worked with and her game was just up against mine for like a year and a half. She got great at it. Shes going to mind **** people like noone else.

She's playing games for a year because (drum roll) she's just not that into you!

Could you be more specific about how you think Anti-Dump's machine failed to work for you? Maybe it prevented a quick lay or two. Tell us what happened.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

This seems to be a rather pointless thread. A girl using strategies to try to snag you IS high IL. Shes just going about it in a smarter way. You people always say this stuff because its what you learned here. But the true obvious answer is that girls who use strategies to try to get you DO have high IL as well they are just not suitable to AD's machine because hes seeking the girl with high IL BUT who also do not use strategies because of how his machine works, he is unable to incorporate a system to accomidate girls who do use strategy. Just because a girl is using strat does not mean she does not have high IL.. infact its more likely she does have high IL. Lets ask ourselves a very serious question... OK now look at the afc's in this forum.. they are using strat does that mean that they do not have high IL? Think about it. There are mistakes in the common beliefs of this forum. Sometimes its better to believe things than to deal with the problems in going after a girl who is giving the illusion of a challenge.

So basically heres what I'm saying if a girl likes you a TON and sees her chances of getting/keeping you as a low chance AND reads cosmo or some **** like most girls DO. Well then the most obvious and taught thing to do would be to do what? Lets not debate this because its obvious.

 

[Fenderules]

poop

 

[tmpgstx]

Many girls do play games and have been much longer than us guys. They know the game better than any of us. They can turn on and off their emotions like a switch ..don't believe, look around. Guys can't turn it on and off like they can.

They read articles on getting the guy to crave her, many are very natural at getting you to crave her in a big way. Her subtlities.

They want a guy super attractive to them lusting for them. The problem is, they like that more than sex. It's an unfair trade and emotional thrill ride for them.. She gets the attention but you don't get the sex. It should be reversed.

 

[vorbis]

I'd disagree with this. If a girl has a high IL, then she's afraid of losing you. For me one of the quickest ways to lower MY IL is to indulge in pointless game playing. Girls aren't stupid, they know the effect of their behaviour. If she's really into you and sees you getting annoyed by her games, do you think she's going to continue it? No! She would be too frightened of losing you! Nothing brings out nice behaviour like the fear of losing something valuable.

This seems to be a rather pointless thread. A girl using strategies to try to snag you IS high IL. Shes just going about it in a smarter way. You people always say this stuff because its what you learned here. But the true obvious answer is that girls who use strategies to try to get you DO have high IL as well they are just not suitable to AD's machine because hes seeking the girl with high IL BUT who also do not use strategies because of how his machine works, he is unable to incorporate a system to accomidate girls who do use strategy. Just because a girl is using strat does not mean she does not have high IL.. infact its more likely she does have high IL. Lets ask ourselves a very serious question... OK now look at the afc's in this forum.. they are using strat does that mean that they do not have high IL? Think about it. There are mistakes in the common beliefs of this forum. Sometimes its better to believe things than to deal with the problems in going after a girl who is giving the illusion of a challenge.

So basically heres what I'm saying if a girl likes you a TON and sees her chances of getting/keeping you as a low chance AND reads cosmo or some **** like most girls DO. Well then the most obvious and taught thing to do would be to do what? Lets not debate this because its obvious.

 

[Phyzzle]

because of how his machine works, he is unable to incorporate a system to accomidate girls who do use strategy.

I'm not sure what you mean by strategy.

Girl A doesn't have time for you whenever you call. That's fine. Anti-dump would not reccomend seeing a girl more than twice a week anyways.

Girl B agrees to meet you somewhere, but when you get there, you get a text saying she she decided to go to a concert with her friends, sorry. AD would say drop this chick.

I think you're saying that Girl B is really interested in you, and is using some sort of "mind game" to get you. But you're blinding yourself with your ego. Interested women like to be around you.

I'm just not sure why you think that AD's machine will make you give up on interested girls. What girl? What strategy from Cosmo did she use on you? What did you do?

 

[Kev07]

If a girl was truly interested in you, they would die for a chance to be with you.

guys are the same, haven't you ever felt your self in a situation like this?

7:00pm friend calls(guy) asks if you want to go hang out, you ask parents and get rejected, you tell friend you cannot make it because of parents

8:00pm girl that you like calls you, you go ask parents, but this time you'll probably end up asking more or even begging more, and when you end up not being able to go, you'll go back to girl and set up another time/give more explained reasons etc etc

the situation above is more from my pre DJ days, when i was more AFC, but i'm sure girls feel the same when they have a guy they like asking to hang out

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

I read this a few days ago. "Men prize what they have to work for." It was a quote from a girl because a guy said that women should ask out more. Now you guys can say all this stuff about if a girl is afraid to lose you she will drop the games etc but in reality it does not work like that. If you try to get them to drop the games then in return you will be greeted by MORE games. Thats reality. I am not letting my ego cloud this issue because I have already confirmed for sure 100% what I was thinking with a few different girls right now. AD's machine is imperfect for me.

 

[Phyzzle]

I am not letting my ego cloud this issue because I have already confirmed for sure 100% what I was thinking with a few different girls right now. AD's machine is imperfect for me.

Well you're the boss. Only you know what works for you. I was just afraid you might turn into one of the guys on here who rationalizes away her slights and put downs. "She won't return my calls and flirts with other guys in front of me, BUT I know she really wants me . . . "

 

[danielzxc]

Girls aren't stupid, they know the effect of their behaviour.

I disagree totally. The are very often stupid and completely unaware of the effect of their behavior. Just like some guys. Often, what they THINK is 'working' (or 'should work') has the opposite effect.

 

[IamtheAlphamale]

Yeah I have had people confirm it for me. I got drunk with a buddy and his gf for example who are close with one girl. Heres what happened the HB9 I was gooing to give another chance and then she no shows so I immediately think strat because thats been the case so far (when I'm around she can't take her eyes off of me, she once checked me out about 500 times in 1 shift) so anyways we goto the bar and I pick up hotter. Then we go back and drink more and my friend starts talking her up and saying shes just afraid to get hurt and I tell him blah blah I'm 100% sure shes using strategy and I won't give her another chance until she stops anyways he keeps talking her up and tells me all she wants is for me to just come and talk to her etc. Anyways hes close with her but his gf I am very close with and she tells me that the chick HB9 is full of **** when her bf isnt around. I know his gf likes me (she checks out my **** constantly but we are just friends) so theres the possibility that she does not want me and thatother girl to hook up? But she also said the girl I picked up seemed flattered and **** like she didn't think she had much of a chance with me. I agree she did seem that way because after I got her number she started working my friends and bragging afc style to impress me. So that kind of makes her opinion valid to me and plus my buddy gave it away with some other things too like when I was walking into the room after the talk and he said to his GF "HB9 is ****ed."

Ok so anyways girl 1 from my work it has been about 2 weeks since I picked that other chick up well.. girl 1 just happened to come to work yesterday (shes part time so she can come to work whenever she wants which is irregularly) in tiny lil shorts and my buddy who I have already confirmed is a mole kept trying to get me to goto the bar hes like OH she has a bf now (convenient considering our game of chess) but shes going to be at the bar tonight you should come. Her bf is a nice guy and nice guys finish last. See I realize I seem overly paranoid saying hes a mole but she made friends with him after meeting me and he always hints about **** that happens in the future. Anyways I am too asleep and I forget what I was getting at.. anyways AD's machine.. Its a good machine but like its almost like I drive them to it and the girls that do just throw themselves at me I'm not interested in anyways even though they are like 9's. I think maybe I am just more interested in girls who use that **** on me.

 

[DJ#7436]

How do you raise IL if you dont talk about yourself? How can you make a connection without revealing something?

DJ