I'm a doctor... feeling weird to approach

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Hi fellows

I'm a 27 years old doctor, with a PHD

I just learned cold approaching but it feels really weird for me to approach girls,

I mean girls come to me in college and talk to me, but I don't want to ruin my reputation by trying to pick them up

the problem is I as a doctor, feel really weird to run around on the campus, and follow girls and ask them for numbers,

I mean if I was a 19 year old freshman, It would be easier to run around on campus approaching girl after girl and be completely normal.

But as a doctor it just looks really awkward to do that,

what do you think guys, I need your opinions...
 

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Your reputation is not harmed by acting like a man and pursuing women. You have to understand that this is what women, deep down, expect you to do. If you see a woman you want trust me she KNOWS you want her. When you go up and try to make something happen, even if she is not interested in you or if she is otherwise taken, she will have respect for you.

She respects you because you are being congruent. You want her and you go after her... she shoots you down and you walk away. Trust me she will be thinking about you... if you hover and dither and fail to take action she will think no more of you than the dog she passes on the street digging through a trash can.
 

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I know a lot of young doctors whose logical minds and type A personalities that make them brilliant physicians make them terrible with women.

Then I know this one young doctor. He must've realized one day, "Hey, I'm a doctor." That high quality women want to hook up with high quality men who have status (which doctors have) and money (which doctors have). I think he clued into what you should clue into OP, that he doesn't need to be on the prowl, "running around campus approaching girls." BECAUSE HE'S A GOD DAMN DOCTOR. Anyway, he ended up with a smoking hot 10/10 blonde who is funny, likes sports, and did I mention is a 10/10 blonde? I promise you, he did not "pick up" anyone. He probably just walked around saying, "I'm a doctor." You should try it.
 

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Being a doctor gives you status. But if you want an exponential impact on this fact... let her drag it out of you. Don't lead with it... let her discover it. Women like doing this, they love discovering things about you without you telling them.
 

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Honestly what I would do is go to the supermarket in your scrubs, provided you wear them. You'll get looks from good looking girls who are attracted to doctors. It's just a matter of whether or not you have the balls to go up and approach them.
 

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I will go another route and take advantage of technology.
Sign up for POF and make sure to take some nice/ good looking pictures of yourself and get them verified on here. ( make sure to get one in your work attire )

Doctor with a PhD is a rare status believe it or not. They will literally flock over you. Then you have to make a pick .
 

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The problem is when you cold approach, you automatically position yourself as 'bottom tier'. "Why is this guy spending his time trolling the streets and hitting on random chicks..he must be a low value loser who can't meet women through his social circle" is what the girl automatically thinks. And even if your approach is perfect and she does not come to this conclusion right away, the thought will almost certainly creep into her head sometime after your initial interaction. From her experience, high value men (i.e. doctors, lawyers, successful businessmen, etc.) do not hang out at malls and bookstores cold-approaching women.
 

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So you know what girl's "automatically think".

Did psychic powers come with your medical degree or your Ph.D?

Go ahead - keep overthinking your situation. Act as though you know things as true that aren't. Make excuses as to why you don't approach. Don't listen to advice here because you know better. Except that you don't or you wouldn't be here 'doc'.
 

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Dreama said:
The problem is when you cold approach, you automatically position yourself as 'bottom tier'. "Why is this guy spending his time trolling the streets and hitting on random chicks..he must be a low value loser who can't meet women through his social circle" is what the girl automatically thinks.
No. 1: Per TicTac, you have no idea what anybody else is thinking ever. So just let go of that completely.

No. 2: Yes, I imagine if you are trolling the streets and hitting on random chicks then you are a loser. But is that what you want to be doing? I thought we were talking more about just cold approaching girls in your everyday life - not when you're on a "mission" to scout girls (those missions always fail). So if it is the former and not the latter, I'll tell you what, girls are more likely to think you are a low value loser if you don't talk to them. If you're out at the grocery store, coffee shop, bar, etc. and you see a girl you like and you're eyeing her but can't get the stones to talk to her -- creepy loser. If you stick your chest out, put your chin up, and walk over confidently -- high value cool dude.

If confidence is an issue, I don't know why. You have all the tools to be confident. If I were you, while I'm walking up to a girl, I'd be reminding myself why she is lucky that I am going to talk to her: here I am, a doctor, who saves lives, and makes lots of money, and I am giving her a chance to be a part of my world.
 

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Dreama said:
The problem is when you cold approach, you automatically position yourself as 'bottom tier'. "Why is this guy spending his time trolling the streets and hitting on random chicks..he must be a low value loser who can't meet women through his social circle" is what the girl automatically thinks. And even if your approach is perfect and she does not come to this conclusion right away, the thought will almost certainly creep into her head sometime after your initial interaction. From her experience, high value men (i.e. doctors, lawyers, successful businessmen, etc.) do not hang out at malls and bookstores cold-approaching women.
Bvll****... Approaching woman and expressing what you want does not make you bottom tier. That's blue pill BS. In fact it sets you apart from a vast majority of men that are afraid of women.

You are WAY over thinking this. Go up to a woman tell her you think she's hot tease her a little get her smiling or laughing because you are a fun guy... ask for her number... if she says no, fvcking move on. If you are uncomfortable doing that... do it anyway. Keep doing it until it doesn't bother you anymore. You are not selling aluminum siding door to door. TRUST me women want you to approach them... they REALLY do provided you respect their boundaries and back off if she says no.

If you are having a party at your home does sending out party invitations make you bottom tier? No it just shows you understand protocol and social dynamics. Proper male/female social dynamics states that the MAN approaches and offers the invitation... the woman then decides if she wants to accept.

I will say this and agree with one aspect of day game cold approach. Day game is NOT a deliberate effort... it's more like that last Christmas present under the tree that you missed. Day game is targets of opportunity you find when you are going from place to place living your life. You should always assume you may meet a woman you are interested in but day game is not a deliberate effort. It's something that just happens and women fvcking love that sh!t. They all fantasize about some good looking mysterious stranger that just pops in their lives unexpectedly to sweep them off their feet.
 

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Dreama said:
Hi fellows

I'm a 27 years old doctor, with a PHD

I just learned cold approaching but it feels really weird for me to approach girls,

I mean girls come to me in college and talk to me, but I don't want to ruin my reputation by trying to pick them up

the problem is I as a doctor, feel really weird to run around on the campus, and follow girls and ask them for numbers,

I mean if I was a 19 year old freshman, It would be easier to run around on campus approaching girl after girl and be completely normal.

But as a doctor it just looks really awkward to do that,

what do you think guys, I need your opinions...

Do you typically troll and display this much arrogance in real life too? It sounds to me like you do. The fact that you're creating this thread making sure that anyone who reads knows that you are under 30, a doctor and have a PhD. You're obviously proud of these facts and I'm not knocking your accomplishments. But stop with the vanity because even I, some random guy on the internet, get tired of listening to people talk this s#it up and I know it's even worse when it's in person.

Let's try it another way.

"Hi everyone! I'm Saul, I've got an MBA from Harvard, I'm only knocking down $250k right now but hoping to get more once I transfer to a new job later this year and will be on my way to the C-suite at a Fortune 100 company. My problem is I don't know how to game girls. It just seems like to do this I really have to come down to their level, especially when they find out what I do and how I live; just seems like it'd be pretty lame. But I still need to pick up girls. I need help."

No one here on SS gives a damn about your degrees, your status or whatever. If you simple posted that you're just getting out of school and need some help running daygame or whatever, this could have been pretty straightforward and people here can even help you with real feedback for stuff you're actually doing.
 

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BetterCallSaul said:
If you simple posted that you're just getting out of school and need some help running daygame or whatever
but that's not what I need.

I was asking for the best strategy high status men, like professors, lawyers, businessmen, CEOs, military leaders, etc could use to pickup chicks coz you don't see them running after girls

and how could I give you a clear picture of who I am without telling you who I am?
 

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BetterCallSaul said:
Do you typically troll and display this much arrogance in real life too? It sounds to me like you do. The fact that you're creating this thread making sure that anyone who reads knows that you are under 30, a doctor and have a PhD. You're obviously proud of these facts and I'm not knocking your accomplishments. But stop with the vanity because even I, some random guy on the internet, get tired of listening to people talk this s#it up and I know it's even worse when it's in person.

Let's try it another way.

"Hi everyone! I'm Saul, I've got an MBA from Harvard, I'm only knocking down $250k right now but hoping to get more once I transfer to a new job later this year and will be on my way to the C-suite at a Fortune 100 company. My problem is I don't know how to game girls. It just seems like to do this I really have to come down to their level, especially when they find out what I do and how I live; just seems like it'd be pretty lame. But I still need to pick up girls. I need help."

No one here on SS gives a damn about your degrees, your status or whatever. If you simple posted that you're just getting out of school and need some help running daygame or whatever, this could have been pretty straightforward and people here can even help you with real feedback for stuff you're actually doing.
Whoa, whoa. I don't think the man was being arrogant or vain. Lol

You sound a bit jelly, are you projecting?
 

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Dreama said:
I'm a 27 years old doctor, with a PHD
Are you calling yourself a doctor because you have a PhD? In what? Political science? That qualifies you to drive a cab or be a bar tender.

"Doctor" mean medical doctor. No one cares about your stupid PhD.
 

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Dreama said:
I was asking for the best strategy high status men, like professors, lawyers, businessmen, CEOs, military leaders, etc could use to pickup chicks coz you don't see them running after girls
They don't use "strategies." That... is why you fail.

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Are you calling yourself a doctor because you have a PhD? In what? Political science? That qualifies you to drive a cab or be a bar tender.

"Doctor" mean medical doctor. No one cares about your stupid PhD.
Also this. I'm going to be pissed if I find out I've been giving advice to some glorified T.A.
 

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I don't mean to be harsh, but shouldn't a medical doctor have a better grasp of the English language? This sounds like a 12-year old.
 

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Chill guys, what's with all the hate? When someone says that they're a doctor and have a PhD at the same time, you automatically need to assume they're a medical doctor because that's who they are usually associated with.

Anyway, I too noticed that you tried to mention your age and said you were a doctor and have a PhD (same thing, but I connected the dots). Some people here get all flustered up when they see that you are better than them (most people aren't doctors at the age of 27) and so this hurts their ever so precious self esteem. When that happens, they start throwing around insults or become hostile towards you. That isn't necessarily normal for most people to do, so because they lack the social skills to understand why you should not react so aggressively, you can automatically assume that they aren't good with people in general. Hence why coming to a website like this and staying on here for so long.

Of course not everyone here is like that.

On topic: what do you have to lose? Your a doctor, gonna be making over $100,000 on your first contract, if your a specialized surgeon than that goes over $200,000 for your first year. You can use that money to fund any little side project or hobby that you want. It can help you achieve and go further with your interests. That is how you become happy.

Start working out. Go to a gym and get in shape. Don't drink coffee for a while and no caffeine pills (some people do that in order to stay awake and study, as I'm sure you know). Feel confident within yourself. Simply because you have accomplished something that few others can do.
Hang out with friends more so that you can refine your social skills. Be more spontaneous and do stupid sh!t every once in a while and just don't care. That last sentence will make your confidence skyrocket to unbelievable levels. You can do anything (you can walk up to some random chick and just start hitting on her and because you don't care, you won't be awkward and will be really fun to be with, thus, you have sex with random chick). Basically what I want you to do is to get drunk off of life. You do reckless stunts sometimes, but that's EXACTLY what makes people like and respect you.

Spontaneous and just don't care. Remember. And be confident within yourself.
 
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