I'm 26 she is 19, how to play it?

spiegel549

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Whats happening brothers. I'd like to know your opinions on if I'v been playing my cards right here with this broad...I understand the age and maturity level is a stretch..but at the least..gaining a young **** buddy would be great, and if it materializes into something more, I'm open to it..

*Quick Back Story* She actually approached me at a baseball game and asked me out on a date which is great..I can tell she was really attracted to me by her body language, eye contact etc. So I gave her my number and a few days later we went on the first date. Lots of laughs, lots of Kino, basically (first date went great)

*Before the 2nd Date* Little to no contact on my part, I text her one night while she was out drinking (didn't realize) but we end up getting in a flirty semi sexual back/forth text convo. She sends me a photo of her in a hot dress, I call her sexy, she calls me sexy etc. etc. (convo helped me confirm she was into me)

*The Second Date* Picked her up, went to this outdoor shopping center, grabbed her hand and she went right along with it, lots of Kino, afterwards went for ice cream, had a lot of laughs. I asked if she wanted to come over to watch some movies, she said absolutely. So while at my pad, I really pushed the touch barrier. Put my arm around her hips, had my hand on her ass pretty much, had my hands on her leg, would play with her hair, touch her lips etc. (she didn't stop me once) but she would blush a lot. I positioned my body for the kiss maybe twice and each time I got close to her face she would go beat red and I can tell she was uncomfortable so I didn't push hard. Later I drove her home, moved slowly in for a kiss and I got the cheek, big hug and she said "I had a lot of fun with you and I want to see you again on thursday, so call me wednesday!"

*Until the 3rd date* I normally go ghost in between dates but I dropped her a text yesterday to joke about something we kept laughing at while on the 2nd date and followed up with "what are you up to cutie?" She responds with "I just finished writing my resume..and I am watching a movie with a friend." I just responded with another flirty joke and said have fun.

1.) How do you guys think its going so far? Keep in mind I don't mind taking it slow because I have other women in the picture, but I also dig this girl, she is fun, and we have a lot in common.

2.) I have a 18 year old sister lol..I see how they act. One night a guy they like will text them and they will be all flirty/sexual texting and then yesterday I get a closed sentence response with no question back. Just being a young emotional woman? With a girl so young, is it best to stay ghost in between the early dates? I feel 19 year old girls should be played different then say a 26 year old woman.

Advice. Guidance. Please Thanks!
 

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It was going ok until she realized all she had to do to win you over was put on a dress. A few pointers, in no particular order:

-Lack of a kiss on a first date: beta.
-Complimenting a woman on her looks ('you look sexy in that dress'), especially before you've even kissed: beta.
-Her going 'beat red' isn't pushing too far. You misread that. She was waiting for it, hoping for it, and you didn't do it. Of course you got the cheek at the end.
-Texting her 'what are you up to cutie': beta.

She needs to be chasing you, like she did in the beginning. The only thing you can do to potentially salvage it now is to go completely ghost. Texts are mainly to set up plans. If a girl keeps pushing you on why you won't 'talk to her' just say 'I prefer in person'.
 

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muscleman said:
It was going ok until she realized all she had to do to win you over was put on a dress. A few pointers, in no particular order:

-Lack of a kiss on a first date: beta.
-Complimenting a woman on her looks ('you look sexy in that dress'), especially before you've even kissed: beta.
-Her going 'beat red' isn't pushing too far. You misread that. She was waiting for it, hoping for it, and you didn't do it. Of course you got the cheek at the end.
-Texting her 'what are you up to cutie': beta.

She needs to be chasing you, like she did in the beginning. The only thing you can do to potentially salvage it now is to go completely ghost. Texts are mainly to set up plans. If a girl keeps pushing you on why you won't 'talk to her' just say 'I prefer in person'.

Gotcha brother. I understand. A few minor questions please:

1.) For date #3 she is coming over again for some dinner and another movie. I WILL go for the kiss...as silly as this sounds, any pointers? Just slowly grab her face and ****ing go for it?

2.) I WILL from now on go ghost in between dates but if she messages me all flirty, sends photos etc. If you don't respond with "you look sexy" or "you look good" what WOULD you say in return to those messages? Ignore them? Something sarcastic?

Thanks Brother!
 

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when i recall my last 19 year old (when i was like 40), it so happened that pretty much right after we met she knew she wanted to fock me (she told me afterwards). frankly i wasnt that much interested and didnt even think of that lol.

anyways didnt keep me from making my moves as soon as i realized this is more than just a flirt game. important point: all i did was based on the knowledge that she absolutely adored me and had the hots for me. still did the slow and steady progression, lots of c+f and had her wait a little bit. and i even made objections because of age difference and character and such, while at the same time quite openly telling her that i really wanted to sleep with her. push pull if you will.

so where i am getting at with this is: this girl wants to have sex with you. she saw you, she thought about it, she went for it. and it seems you are a bit slow for the wrong reasons. so all your questions can easily be answered by acknowledging that she wants you, she wants it, she is waiting for it. dont disappoint her.

#1) movie+dinner = sex. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. dont be so complicated, it is not needed. you do what you want to do. dont make it an art project.

#2) the important thing is she keeps sending these because she wants to buy your attention and more. so do with it whatever you want, i dont think teasing her a bit does any harm, but rewarding her seems equally fine. maybe a mix. anyways, it really doesnt much matter. obv you do not need to work for this, you just need to let it happen.
 

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flashpoint said:
when i recall my last 19 year old (when i was like 40), it so happened that pretty much right after we met she knew she wanted to fock me (she told me afterwards). frankly i wasnt that much interested and didnt even think of that lol.

anyways didnt keep me from making my moves as soon as i realized this is more than just a flirt game. important point: all i did was based on the knowledge that she absolutely adored me and had the hots for me. still did the slow and steady progression, lots of c+f and had her wait a little bit. and i even made objections because of age difference and character and such, while at the same time quite openly telling her that i really wanted to sleep with her. push pull if you will.

so where i am getting at with this is: this girl wants to have sex with you. she saw you, she thought about it, she went for it. and it seems you are a bit slow for the wrong reasons. so all your questions can easily be answered by acknowledging that she wants you, she wants it, she is waiting for it. dont disappoint her.

#1) movie+dinner = sex. EVERYONE KNOWS THAT. dont be so complicated, it is not needed. you do what you want to do. dont make it an art project.

#2) the important thing is she keeps sending these because she wants to buy your attention and more. so do with it whatever you want, i dont think teasing her a bit does any harm, but rewarding her seems equally fine. maybe a mix. anyways, it really doesnt much matter. obv you do not need to work for this, you just need to let it happen.

I agree and have always thought this from the second she approached me. I let my beta emotions get in the way of acting how I really wanted to act.

I am going to call her wednesday to set up the time for thursday, have her over, make something simple, have some wine (she said she loves wine) and as soon as we are on the couch and I see the opening ****ing gonna just go for it.

Lets JUST SAY worse case, she stops me from kissing her (and or) doesn't let it escalate to the bed..(now it very well may go all the way) but if it doesn't I want to be prepared to play it like a pro...how would I respond?
 

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Lets JUST SAY worse case, she stops me from kissing her (and or) doesn't let it escalate to the bed..(now it very well may go all the way) but if it doesn't I want to be prepared to play it like a pro...how would I respond?
Be indifferent to the outcome. Go for the kiss, escalate it as far as you can go. If she resists even a kiss, that's a bad sign. I'd say at that point, go ghost on her.

As for taking it to the bed, she may well resist initially. But the key is to keep making out and keep getting her horny until she is so wet that she just can't resist it anymore.
 

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spiegel549 said:
Lets JUST SAY worse case, she stops me from kissing her (and or) doesn't let it escalate to the bed..(now it very well may go all the way) but if it doesn't I want to be prepared to play it like a pro...how would I respond?
well, too much worrying about what could fail might keep you from doing what works. but anyways I'd approach that thing when it happens directly and calmly ask her what's wrong and if she doesnt like you or what is going on with her. she must have her reasons then and i see no harm in asking. i mean "asking" not begging. It's like with a long time girlfriend, sometimes she is just not in the mood or something is bothering her and you cant get upset everytime that happens. you know she is basically a sure thing so no need to freak out about it. just be nice and understanding but make your point. her constantly blushing indicates nervousness and excitment at the same time, so be aware of that you might need to cross a line or two to make it happen, because if you leave the decision completely with her, she might easily shy away and afterwards she wont be grateful that you have respected her. i mean you obviously dont want to rape her or force yourself on her, but a bit persistence is needed sometimes.

and again i dont think this is going to happen if you warm her up and playfully let one thing lead to another. It is just that even if she is ready for it and has it in mind also, for some odd reason she certainly wont like to feel as if she owes it to you. so keep the pressure off her but steadily progress and help her do it. in the end is not a big deal, just having a bit fun and a good time together. if not today then next time. and of course you will respect her afterwards even more. ;)
 

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spiegel549 said:
Gotcha brother. I understand. A few minor questions please:

1.) For date #3 she is coming over again for some dinner and another movie. I WILL go for the kiss...as silly as this sounds, any pointers? Just slowly grab her face and ****ing go for it?

2.) I WILL from now on go ghost in between dates but if she messages me all flirty, sends photos etc. If you don't respond with "you look sexy" or "you look good" what WOULD you say in return to those messages? Ignore them? Something sarcastic?

Thanks Brother!
1) No pointers. There's no best moment. Don't stick your tongue down her throat as soon as she walks in the door, but beyond the first few minutes of warmup it's ok to do it whenever. The sooner the better if you want to progress to nookie. If she's coming over for dinner and to watch a movie, she's open to sex with you on some level. If you get resistance (I predict you will - sh!t testing because of your earlier 'failure'), do a takeaway.

2) First, and this may be difficult, is to ignore them. If she keeps sending, you can just say 'nice' and that's that. You can validate her in person with your d!ck.
 

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Spiegel-

I mostly agree with Muscle.

1) Don't over-think the kiss. Just do it when it feels natural. She WAS waiting for it the first time.

2) If you get those flirty/sexual texts, dont feed her too much. Personally, I would ignore them until she sent a follow up. The longer you wait the more insecure she will feel about what she sent you, especially if it was a picture. No first contact.

3) Keep in mind she is 19. She knows, even if unconsciously, that her body is immensely desirable to men. As a rule, I hold off on compliments until I've kissed a girl at least, and even then I use them sparingly. Too many conveys you value her very highly, which in turn makes you less attractive in her eyes.
 

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Ok men, I need the next step here, and tell me if I played it right please..


I called today to setup date #3....phone rings, she picks right up.

She answers and sounds like she was in a coma...I said.

Me: "Hey Nicole, its Tom."

Her: "errrhhhggh hey...."

Me: "You sound like I woke you out of a coma over there."

Her: "haha..yeah..."

Me: "Listen I want to have you over for dinner and a movie tomorrow night, I'll pick you up at 5pm after work." (she doesn't have a car currently)

Her: I don't think I can...I have to go somewhere with my dads friend.

Me: Alright so your not going to be around all day?

Her: Yeah..he is suppose to take me to..(mumbled something I couldn't make out) lol..

Me: Okay no problem, maybe another time, listen I gotta run, I got a few things to take care of but I'll talk to you later.

Her: Okay..(mumbled)

Me: Bye. (hung up phone)


So heres the thing. If she legitimately busy fine but she never counter offered another date...whats the next step? Go ghost until she reaches out to me?

*Just a Note* I am going to run into her this sunday at my little nephews baseball game that she is always at (were we met) if that means anything.

Thanks Guys!
 

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spiegel549 said:
Ok men, I need the next step here, and tell me if I played it right please..


I called today to setup date #3....phone rings, she picks right up

She answers and sounds like she was in a coma...I said.

Me: "Hey Nicole, its Tom."

Her: "errrhhhggh hey...."

Me: "You sound like I woke you out of a coma over there."

Her: "haha..yeah..."

Me: "Listen I want to have you over for dinner and a movie tomorrow night, I'll pick you up at 5pm after work." (she doesn't have a car currently)

Her: I don't think I can...I have to go somewhere with my dads friend.

Me: Alright so your not going to be around all day?

Her: Yeah..he is suppose to take me to..(mumbled something I couldn't make out) lol..

Me: Okay no problem, maybe another time, listen I gotta run, I got a few things to take care of but I'll talk to you later.

Her: Okay..(mumbled)

Me: Bye. (hung up phone)


So heres the thing. If she legitimately busy fine but she never counter offered another date...whats the next step? Go ghost until she reaches out to me?

*Just a Note* I am going to run into her this sunday at my little nephews baseball game that she is always at (were we met) if that means anything.

Thanks Guys!
Rest easy man... you've done your job (sh!t, she did half of it for you by being the one to approach).

And just to reiterate for your future reference... you can't have dinner without "in her". If she's comfortable enoughto hang out with you at your place for dinner, movies, chess... it doesn't f*cking matter, you're in no way in the wrong to make your move. If she was off put by the possibility of sex she wouldn't be there.

As for your current situation, yes, GHOST... and keep it that way until you see her Sunday. No text, no calls, no fb, nothing.

In the mean time, go out and find yourself another pyt.
 

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You know whats been eating me up more than anything...I use to be on my A-game with making a move, I use to NEVER hesitate...I mean I was making a killing sleeping with girls...then I got into a long term relationship for a few years and it just ended about 6 months ago. I am over my ex but when I finally met this broad that approaches ME and I KNOW what I needed to do and how to play it...I **** it up lol...what do I do? I have her sitting on my couch and I DON'T GO FOR IT...

I have been beating myself up all damn day since she gave me the "I am busy" crap for the 3rd date..

I can't tell if I am pissed because I was starting to dig this girl, or honestly for the fact that I had some broad approach me and that is was something new and exciting in my life.

What do you guys think? Has it happened to you were you let your game slip? I know definitely don't want to be desperate and ask her out AGAIN so I am going GHOST, but the beta p***y me is going (ask her one last time in a few days!)

NEVER AGAIN will I not go for it...but in the meantime can someone slap me out of it please!? and when I see her this sunday how do I act towards her????
 
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She was a sure thing. You know you shouldve gotten that kiss. Every mistake you make is going to make you have to work even harder. I would've waited longer for the scheduling of date three. She expected it, you were predictable, let her have the control, etc. Since you are giving this girl/outcome so much importance to you, I would be unpredictable and not be at the game this week unless you had another attractive female (a friend or another plate) with you. Otherwise ghost until further notice. Either way it has to be accepted that its no longer a sure thing at best.
 
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