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[Walden]

Cestmoi , top stuff! It feels good breaking that "10th Hi" barrier eh?
Silk , welcome aboard!

Am watching with interest, good luck and good hunting to you.

 

[Silk]

Week 1, day 1

Today wasn't much. I did hi's, but not to girls. The first was from a guy at the gas station, he nodded back. The second hi was to a policeman, he also said hi back. I didn't do an hi's in the supermarket.

I have trouble just saying hi without any previous eyecontact.
When I was in the supermarket I tried to make EC with girls especially, but most of them minded their own business. The ones that did look at me were in the distance, so I didn't say hi or something. I did say hi to the cashier but that doesn't count; I guess the policeman also doesn't count.

In my previous first week boot camp most girls I said hi to said hi back and most of them smiled. But with all of them I had previous EC and they were walking down the street just past me, so they noticed me already. I need to practice just blurping out a hi anywhere when I'm next to someone in a store or something without any EC. I did it earlier and it feels awkward.

Anyway the total right now is ONE hi. Not even to a girl. Ah well, tomorrow I'll continue!

This was my story for day one, so what's going on with you guys?
I'd like to know what's up!

Silk

 

[Jango_Xavier]

Week 1 Day 1
I was planning to wake up at 8am go to the gym then go into town to bootcamp but got up at 11am then thought well im up to late I wont go into town which I didnt(Thinking to self you lazy fuk).
Later in the day I came here and read my bro walden's bootcamp post which inspired me so I went to the gym and on the way I got 5 hi's and one cow didnt say a thing.
At the gym I got 3 hi's and started talking to a 6 chick first 30 seconds then 1 min then 2 mins she did laugh at some things I said but wasnt really givin any signals at the end of the session I thought close her but thought to self I dont need her and just said "well it was nice to meet you might see you again" then left
all in all its was quite an alright day.
BTW if you dont feel like going thru with the bootcamp just read walden's thread because it certainly helped me.
Btw again I wont put so much info on the convo's next time and im also 100% devoted to finish the bootcamp now.


Jango

 

[Anson]

GODDAMMIT!

There we go! My mom told me that if I want any money by the end of this summer, I need to watch after my little brother each day for one week until 4 pm (which means I can't leave the house). And after 4 pm I have band practice basically each day!! It will be like 11 pm before I get to go out DJ'ing - and by then there will no people anywhere except the bars, and I can't afford to go to bars every day...

There is a good chance I might have to delay this DJ bootcamp thing with one week. It's only one week... and I'm getting money from it from my mom! So whatta heck, but I'll be back in the action I swear.

 

[Walden]

JX remember that situation , this time 3 weeks from now you'da been leaving with her number.

Silk , you might wanna go out and try a few without eye contact, I find that when I want to get a chicks attention (ie eye contact) I say "hi". Often a hi without eye contact will still get a good response.

Also it sounds like we're losing a man the only way you get outta the bootcamp is medical downgrade or death!

 

[Jango_Xavier]

Week1 Day1
I was planning to wake up at 8am go to the gym then go into town to bootcamp but got up at 11am then thought well im up to late I wont go into town which I didnt(Thinking to self you lazy fuk).
Later in the day I came here and read my bro walden's bootcamp post which inspired me so I went to the gym and on the way I got 5 hi's and one cow didnt say a thing.
At the gym I got 3 hi's and started talking to a 6 chick first 30 seconds then 1 min then 2 mins she did laugh at some things I said but wasnt really givin any signals at the end of the session I thought close her but thought to self I dont need her and just said "well it was nice to meet you might see you again" then left
all in all its was quite an alright day.
BTW if you dont feel like going thru with the bootcamp just read walden's thread because it certainly helped me.
Btw again I wont put so much info on the convo's next time and im also 100% devoted to finish the bootcamp now.

Week1 Day2
Today was quite a bad but at the same time quite funny.
A grand total of 5 hi's not very good because I only tried to say hi to people that gave eye contact (I dont get much eye contact) tomorrow i'll just say hi to more.

Funny thing happened there is a girl I like, when ever I enter the shop she always gives me a heart filled smile, laughs at things I say and is always enthousiastic when I ask how she is, so I went in too get her number but wasnt there(she will tomorrow).
2 mins later a chick came in and asked about big dance party so I said"so your going there as well" replied good to that then found out that the tickets were sold out so I sort of made I white lie that I could get some more tickets(its not that much of a lie it just means I have to ring up heaps of people) so, I say give me your number and I'll ring tonight or tomorrow about tickets(LOL unbelievable I got a females number that easy).

Some advice needed please?If I can get ticket and ring up and she already has found one should I ask if I can go with her because ive got no one to go with i'll just say my other friends cancelled, good or bad idea?or can someone give better idea?

oops almost forgot, got into convo with chick on bike asked about necklace 1 min long.
talked 15 seconds to milf in que at supermarket.
So quite a good day I think.
Grand total hi's:13

Week 1 Day 3
OMG I was completely off game today I got a grand total of 1 hi but, its my fault well its actually my hair's fault because I had a bad hair and you guys already know how much feeling umcomfortable can ruin your game I just couldn't get my self to say more than 1 hi.
Most important thing to do tomorrow=Hair dresser.
Gonna go to gym now so I'll edit when I get back.
Back from the gym I got 2 hi's and 2 hi's from a couple.
17 hi's 33 hi's to go.

Jango.

 

[Silk]

Week 1, day 1

Today wasn't much. I did hi's, but not to girls. The first was from a guy at the gas station, he nodded back. The second hi was to a policeman, he also said hi back. I didn't do an hi's in the supermarket.

I have trouble just saying hi without any previous eyecontact.
When I was in the supermarket I tried to make EC with girls especially, but most of them minded their own business. The ones that did look at me were in the distance, so I didn't say hi or something. I did say hi to the cashier but that doesn't count; I guess the policeman also doesn't count.

In my previous first week boot camp most girls I said hi to said hi back and most of them smiled. But with all of them I had previous EC and they were walking down the street just past me, so they noticed me already. I need to practice just blurping out a hi anywhere when I'm next to someone in a store or something without any EC. I did it earlier and it feels awkward.

Anyway the total right now is ONE hi. Not even to a girl. Ah well, tomorrow I'll continue!

This was my story for day one, so what's going on with you guys?
I'd like to know what's up!

Week 1, day 2

Today was better than yesterday, but it still not much.
I did 3 hi's. First hi to a woman in a bus. No reply, she didn't even look. Second hi was to one HB8 out of a group of 3. They walked by me and I already had some EC. No reply though. Third hi, to a HB7, had some EC, she then looked away and a few secs later I hi'd and she said hi back.

Still no random hi's. I really must push myself doing that. Tomorrow I get another chance.

Total number of hi's is 4.

Week 1, day 3

Today was even better than yesterday! I actually hi'd without EC.
Felt very good. A total of 6 hi's. This morning I just missed my bus at the bus station. I had to wait for about an hour so I wandered around a little and first hi'd an HB6 without EC who walked past me. She said hi back. HB6 sounds a bit contradicting, but well you know what I mean, a 6.

A minute later I hi'd an HB7 with EC also passing me. She also hi'd back. After that I said hi to another HB6 without EC passing me. When I came back from work I went to the supermarket again. I hi'd a HB6 without EC checking out some stuff on the shelves. She said hi back. Later I saw HB6 & HB7 talking. I walked past them and hi'd the HB7 without EC. She smiled and said hi back quite enthousiastic, like she already knew me.

Outside near the busstation two HB7's passed me with EC. I hi'd one of them and they said hi back when I was already past them.

Well, the hi thing get's easier the more you do it. I still need to do a lot. Tomorrow the shops in my city are open late so I'm gonna go shopping and practicing the boot camp as well. First I'll go to MCD's and later I think I'll hit some large warehouses. I'm sure there'll be a lot of HB's walking around so I get a good chance for doing the exercises.

My goals right now are to try mainly if not only HB's and to keep practising non-EC hi's.

Total number of hi's is 10.

Jango, cestmoi, Keep it up!
Any other guys who are just starting out?

Silk

 

[Microphone Fiend]

Damn, all the rookies are catchin me up and stuff, lol, j/k
Good work fellas. Number close in the first week, impressive!
Today was yet another waste Went town with the intent to walk around a lil and get some Hi's,but ended up at a friends house playin Xenosaga (damn videogames, lol) The reason I posted this one is because I'm gonna force myself to go out and edit this post with good results....
MF signin out, stilll with 29 Hi's

Week 1 Day?
Lost track of days so I will just keep y'all posted on my day...
Started off iffy at friends house where I worked on his home gym, and watched tv for most of the day. No matter tho, cuz had something to do tonight...

8:30 comes and one by one most of my friends have dropped out on the idea of going up whether it be church, babysitting or no trans. So it is just me and one other dude, and he BAILS ON THE WAY THERE! I was thinking about forgetting the idea entirely but I decided if all these people can go alone, why can't I.

I get there and walk around aimlessly, making EC with whoever dares look in my direction and I meet two dudes who used to go my skool and are slightly overweight. I always thought of them as either desperate people who imbellished on what happens in their life.

The first guy just approaches every girl he's every seen before (mostly younger white, he's black, so at first it seems a little odd but just cuz the people I chill with aren't as open minded)

The second guy just lays back and cracks jokes til HB8 and HB8.5 come and initiate breif Kino with him on da street, lol, i was pretty impressed. Then we meet some other dude who just you can tell was alpha the way he just said every joke and led the group on occasions

The best part of the night was when I was goin to my ride and I see a group of about 4 girls and I look up, smile, and look back down before I walk past them. Then I hear
HB4: Yo ace boy, my girl here likes you
Me: <Continues walking> (....... can't......stop.......feet! Think of something to say dammit)

I almost did the "you can't be talking to me" and just forgot the situation, until old faithful, repeated numerous occasions here popped into my head:
Me: I can see why!

Lol, I suprised myself with that one. Then they had this look on their face I saw as I continued walking, they either didn't hear me or they didn't expect me to say it.

The chick she was talking about was HB 7.5 but she was jailbait so I probably couldn't have done anything with it. I can see why girls don't approach guys as much now. Cuz the afc's (and rafc's) are soo taken aback they just dunno wut to say


I got some good EC on the whole of the night. Once again I while try and hit the beach tommorow although I always seem to chicken out cuz Im going by myself

 

[cestmoi]

Jango and SILK congrats on your SUCESS. You're the new UP-AND-COMERS that are shattering the bootcamp. Magnigificent success.

But could I ask you a favor? You see... We have a long way to go and this thread will be the backbone for it... So please please IF you are still able to EDIT the previous message with the INFO on the NEW day. I see that your last posts were barely after the previous ones and you were still able to edit them.

Week1 Restarted Day 1

I went out and said 3 HIs to people, the reason its so slow is because in the entire city everyone was in a bad mood and up until NOW I only do HI's when there's EC. A total of only 4 made any EC at all. So I've decided that tommorow I SAY "FUK EC" and say Hi to everyone I want to. And I will say HI's to HBs mostly from now on. Sure those old people can be sexy... but i've grown bored of them. REMEMBER a confident DJ can say HI to anyone, even if there's NO EC AT ALL.

Its about imrpoving yourself and not them. So what if they're not looking. Say to yourself "fuk EM".

Week1 Restarted Day 2

Today I was trying real hard to get only HIs without EC, so that kinda frame of mind made me miss out on the chances where I did get EC. So I got just one HI to a kid.

Week1 Restarted Day 3

I said Hi to a grand total of 4 people and they were all in situations I'd say hi anyway.

I'm so frustrated I think I'm gonna do something stupid like yell Hi to everyone tommorow!

 

[Jango_Xavier]

Week 1 Day 4
Today didnt go very well because there were about 6 chicks with eye contact but couldnt get myself to say hi(pretty studip he?)
I got total of 12 hi's and a small convo with granny today and there was this asian chick she was quite stupid she works in a supermarket I ask in english how she is but she doesnt understand but the weird thing is ive heard her more than 4 times speak english so in the end it was a failed convo.

Week 1 Day 4
Today went alright but could be better got 4 hi's I sort of got into convo with cashier but could say more than "how are you?" because it was very busy so other people were listening(still a little self consious )
33 down.
17 to go.
If I count the no reply hi's total would be 40.


Jango

 

[Silk]

Week 1, day 4

Today wasn't quite as good as I have hoped. However, I did do a total of 5 hi's, almost as good as yesterday.

This morning I hi'd a HB6 with EC in the bus. She hi'd back. After work I walked to McD's and hi'd a HB7 without EC. no reply. Around the corner some promo team was giving away free pepsi X cans. So I got a can and drank it under a roof of a shop, sheltering from the rain. I saw a HB8 in the distance also sheltering from the rain.
Later she walked past me and I hi'd her without EC, she said hi back very friendly. When I was in the McD there were some HB7's who were laughing and joking around. I checked them and some other girls out. When I left they said goodbye to me! Later I hi'd two HB7's with EC. They hi'd back. At the bus station I also hi'd a HB6, she hi'd back.

While I was shopping I noticed two nice cassiers. Both HB8. One was at the candy department, with all the stuff lying around. I said 'Looks delicious'. She said 'Yeah, and it should'. After that I didn't have the nerve to talk some more. Well I didn't screw up or anything. I'm saving her for a next boot camp week for number closing or something. In another store I was the other HB8 and I'll also pay her a visit some time later in the boot camp.

Looking back, most of the days this week I went to the supermarket when I came back from work and said hi while walking around, but today I was in the city there for quite a few hours and wasn't in the mood. I was tired from work, had dirty clothes, needed a shower etc. Like Jango said these things can really affect your mood and game. I couldn't quickly go home and come back because I was with the bus.

Tomorrow is my last day at my summer job so next week I can go to the city pretty much every day all day instead of after 6 or 7.

The total number of hi's now is 15.

Ok, now I'm gonna take a shower.

Jango, 29 hi's is great, good job

Week 1, day 5

Today nothing happened. Just one non EC hi to a HB8. When I said hi she looked at me like I'd insulted her or something.
Ah well. This weekend I'm going to my hometown and hang out with my friends. Try to do some bootcamping as well. I'll post back sunday.

The total number of hi's now is 16.


Silk

 

[Walden]

Well done guys! Keep it up.

I totally get how feeling uncomfortable can throw yr game a bit.

One good option is to have a place or a situation where you are reallyc omfortable getting hi's (I dunno the line at the cafeteria) and start your days training there , it really helps get you out of the prarlysis zone.

 

[Silk]

Week 1, day 6

Today went well, 10 hi's!

I hi'd 3 guys while walking to the supermarket. All said hi back. On my way back I hi'd a HB6, she hi'd back. On the trainstations I hi'd a woman, said hi back, and hi'd HB7 without EC who didn't said hi back, and a couple who also said hi back.

In the evening I went out with my friends. On my way I hi'd a group of girls / guys, they hi'd back. At the ATM I hi'd another group of guys / girls, hi'd back. At a bar I hi'd a HB7, she hi'd back.

Total number of hi's 26

Offtopic :

I went out saturday. There's a group of girls there who show up regularly. Anyway I tried to grind with one of them, but she rejected me. I also didn't talk to her before or anything. I did talk to one of her friends, also talked earlier. I noticed she wore the same top like last week. So I got over and said "you wore that same thing last week, you did wash it didn't you?" She laughed, then we had some smalltalk, then she said she had to talk to her friends.

Well I'm not going to grind up to chicks anymore just like that. I haven't had any succes with it anyway. I need to practice more approaching in clubs I think. Now that I think of it, I could have talked to the other chick, and asked for an opinion on her friend, having the same clothes as last week, etc.
Stupid hindsight
Oh well, I can use that next time.

Anyway, clubs are a totally different issue than stuff we learn in the boot camp, but I just wanted to share some experiences.

Week 1, day 7

Just one hi to a woman on the trainstation.

Total number of hi's 27

Well, this was supposed to be the last day of the first week of the boot camp. I'm not sure what to do now. I could use the next few days to finish my total of 50 or just use the whole week for more hi's. I'm going on vacation on saturday. Maybe it's better to just go on exercising hi's this week as much as possible and start with week 2 when I'm back.

Silk

 

[Silk]

Week 1, day 8

Today I had 4 hi's. Only went to the supermarket, had to do some studying also, so I didn't get much time out to boot camp.

Hi'd two guys and they hi'd back, two HB6's, both hi'd back. There aren't a lot of HB7, 8's or even 9's around here, they are mostly in the city. Sometimes when people just pop out of nowhere I miss the oppurtinity to say hi, it all goes to quickly, I think I'll need to practise more on this and react faster. Some sort of 1 second rule for sayin hi.

There hasn't been any activity on this thread for a few days from you guys. Are you still in? We need to keep this thing going! Share your experiences and stay with the boot camp to get a foundation for all DJ activities. I haven't finished my first week yet, but I can tell that fixing on one exercise like saying hi really works to build confidence. I'm just going to keep doing this until I have it down and it has become a second nature to me. Then I'll move on.

Hope to hear from you guys.

The total number of hi's is 31.

Week 1, day 9

I didn't get out today, did some studying and redesigned my room.

Week 1, day 10

Only went to the supermarket today, hi'd one HB6, she hi'd back and a guy, hi'd back also.

The total number of hi's is 33.

Silk

 

[Microphone Fiend]

damn silk really has some dedication....
Well I got 1 Hi when I went to the supermarket yesterday to get some flour... so that brings my total to 31 also....
Damn sad to see some newbie come and show more dedication than any of us. Come on team lets all finish this week soon!

Edit
lol, so true C'est Moi every since that big day, I have never gotten that "in the zone" I'm gonna put myself in the field as much as possible for the rest of week.

 

[cestmoi]

Well in the past several days I had a total of 4 hi's and a grand total for this week of 12!??!

Ahh ****. I thought I broke the barrier last week, but it was only temporary. Just for that one day. It seems its not enough to say HI to a certain amount of people like (20). It has to be in a short amoung of time. That's a pattern I see her. Me and Mic both got kinda stuck because even though we have a large GRAND total (by now over 40 I think) we got those stretched in small outing of just 2 or 3 outing at a time. While looking at the guys in the original thread that were successfull I see they did many HIs at a time. Like 7-12 a day.

Guess there's a pattern that can be seen there eh? Not really a coincidence is it?

So this is my next goal to get out of the paralysis zone. You're finally out of it when you can say HI to any kind of stranger I guess and anywhere.

So far i'm limited to older people or younger (only if they're extremely friendly looking) and only in the suburbs. Malls I freeze in. HBs - a special story.

EDIT

I FOUND A GREAT NEW TRICK for beating the paralysis and expanding the comfort zone. Ask her for the time

Brilliant eh? Lol it works. I found myself talking to HBs I wouldn't greet normally. And I found myself talking to people where I'd normally paralyse into not saying HI.

Mind you this is not a replacement for the HIs. You still need to do them. This kinda warms you up in the spots where you're weak. So don't use this on occasions you're already comfortable in (e.g greeting and elderly person in the suburbs).

It's great, I mean you're basically just asking for the time, what's to be scared off. I actually left my watch and cell at home and had no way of knowing what the time is. So I kinda arranged that I had to ask someone. And in the malls this time there's only a bunch of HBs walking around - PERFECT!

AND on another note! Never give up the bootcamp! NEVER. Even if you're slow even if it seems like you're getting nowhere, even if you can only squeeze in one hi a week - you're still progressing!

SO ANSON GET OFF YOUR BUTT, you DO NOT have an excuse. There's people out there that work two jobs and still have time do DJ around. If you don't have time for 50his this week then make it 5 hi's. Whatever, just don't give up!

 

[Walden]

Stay in the game bro...

 

[killerasp]

Week 1 Day 2

ive been here awhile but i never really read the entire bible. i guess this would be a good time to.

PS. I got a girls number today.

 

[Jango_Xavier]

Here I am again no I didnt stop I was just lazy and completely off game.

Week 1 Day 6
Went into town while off game got 3 hi's over the whole day.
Week 1 Day 7
Off game only got 1 hi.
Week 1 Day 8
I got up really late I wont say but I can say it was really late so it was to late to go into town and was completely off game.
Week 1 Day 9
Got up late again but walked around neighourhood got 1 hi.
Ive promised myself to finish week 1 tomorrow and when I hit the 50 mark I'll start week 2 straight away.
Grand total=45 hi's

Jango

 

[cestmoi]

Today I received an interesting read from Copeland & Luis's newsletter (they're the ones who came up with the HI program):



A SEDUCTION QUESTION ANSWERED

Dear Ron and David,

First of all, let me say that the "Hi" program is great, and really fun, and I've already met several romantic interests (including one lover!) just from doing it...the best excuse to meet strangers is no excuse at all!

But anyway, I liked it a lot, and I have a lot of shy
friends, so I got them to start doing it too, kind of as a game...however, this brought up some questions about the rules of the "Hi" program! They are:

1. If the woman makes eye contact with you before you say
Hi, does it count towards the daily total? (This is very
common when walking down the street and saying Hi to women
whom you pass)

2. If you say Hi to a pair of women who are sitting or
standing or walking together, does it count as 2 or as 1? (I think it should count only as 1)

3. Does it count if you say something other than just Hi,
such as "Hi, how are you doing", or "Hi, I like that belt you're wearing", etc.?

4. Does it count if you use another greeting word, such as "Hey", "Howdy", or "What's up"?

Anyway, thanks, and keep up the good work!

- Scott

Hi Scott!

Thanks for writing. You are right that the "Hi"
program--that is, saying "hi" to a set number of women each day--is a great way to learn how to initiate with women.

While it is admirable that you want to do the "Hi" program "Right," the questions you ask are irrelevant. You can handle those points any way you want. Let's review what's truly important about the "Hi" program. Everything else you can forget about:

The Four Rules of the "Hi Program"
1. Decide how many women you are going to say "hi" to each
day, and keep track of how you do. Many of our students say they will say "hi" to ten or twenty women a day, five or six days a week. But you don't have to be nuts about keeping perfect track, unless you want to be. The point is to be in action, not to do it "perfectly."

2. The women you say "hi" to don’t have to hear you say hi. The women you say hi to can be walking the other direction, and even wearing headphones. It doesn't matter. Just say hi.


3. Say hi to any women you see. That's right, any women. She can be old, fat, disabled, it doesn’t matter. This is about building your "initiation" muscle; it's about building that strength that can interrupt women. So do it.

4. Celebrate that you did it. So often we will talk with a
guy who would only let himself feel good about himself if he managed to convince a totally unattainable, uninterested supermodel, whom he met on the street, to sleep with him, in fifteen minutes or less. Then, and only then, would he allow himself to feel good about what he accomplished with women. You must let yourself feel good NOW, or you will NEVER get the woman you want.

How you can screw up the "Hi Program"
Our experience has shown us that men are very inventive in screwing up the "hi program." Here are the most popular traps guys fall into. Learn these, and avoid them, and you'll be fine.

1. Disqualifying all women. You can screw up the "Hi
Program" by disqualifying every woman as a candidate for a "hi." Usually it works like this: a guy refuses to say "hi" to most women because they are not hot enough. He then refuses to say "hi" to the rest, because they are so hot that it's intimidating. JUST SAY HI!

2. Waiting for the "perfect moment." The truth is there's
never a "perfect moment" to say hi. Waiting around for the "perfect moment" to say hi guarantees you'll never say hi, because the "perfect moment" never comes.

3. Only saying "hi" to women who make eye contact with you.
The terrible truth: You must say "hi "to women, even if they are not looking at you. Women are rarely going to make eye contact with you before you say "hi." Say hi anyway.

4. Being upset by women's responses. One of the benefits of
the "hi program" is you start to learn that her response doesn't matter. What matters is that you took action, and took a risk in saying "hi."

5. Deciding the "hi program" is so simple, you don't need to
do it. We don't care if it seems easy. TRY IT and see if it really is. And why should it be bad if something with women is finally easy?

Best of luck!
Ron Louis and David Copeland