If you don't have looks, you're doomed

[Dole]

"Hey, what's up? My name's Dole. How's your evening going?"

She responds.

"Hey, (name) nice to meet you."
...then take off and run with the conversation.

I stumble on word's, I hesitate, I think what to say next when I am having a conversation with a random girl.

Usually girl's in the club are b1tches and run in packs. So when you try to pull one to talk as she's walking by the other one's pull her away.

 

[IKO69]

I stumble on word's, I hesitate, I think what to say next when I am having a conversation with a random girl.

Usually girl's in the club are b1tches and run in packs. So when you try to pull one to talk as she's walking by the other one's pull her away.

Yes. If you want to have better success with these dolts, walk into the club with a bunch of girls. They don't even have to be drop dead gorgeous, but one or two chicks will cause some of the others to look your way and be more receptive to you. Remember, they are hit on by 100+ guys a night, so you have to even the playing field. It's kinda stupid actually, but it's how it works.

 

[Dole]

What about other places beside the club? Even if you are good looking you can expect to get rejected at the club a lot...a lot of times that's the reason they go to them in the first place, to be hit on and reject guys because they think their such hot ****. Until you sort out your confidence issues I would actually reccomend you avoid the clubs for this reason.

This is true, my mind is messed up because I have hard time approaching girls other then the club. I just don't have the courage to start a conversation with some random girl. For example I go to university, a great place to meet girls, yet I have never randomly sat next to some attractive girl and carried on a conversation. Its pathetic. Yet no one in my social circle does this as well.
I am at university right now in the library, there are 2 pretty attractive girl's sitting infront of me ( with there back's facing me ) and I just cant do it even though Ive been thinking about it for the passed 15 minutes lol.

Also I should mention that I go to the club with my DJ friend who is 34 ( claims he slept over 1000 girls ). He teaches me how to observe girls, how to approach them and what to say. Usually I mess it up and get rejected.

 

[Interceptor]

I stumble on word's, I hesitate, I think what to say next when I am having a conversation with a random girl.

Usually girl's in the club are b1tches and run in packs. So when you try to pull one to talk as she's walking by the other one's pull her away.

You stumble on words because you're too in your head trying to say the "perfect' thing, which doesnt exist...
Youre trying too hard to impress some woman you just met.
This is all related to low self esteem
The need to impress and get approval.
Since you place so much importance on 'getting ' some random woman, of course, you'll be pissed if she's pulled away.

You place too much importance on that.
And because you're not getting your Ego needs met ("SHE MUST TALK TO ME, Dammnit!!! I NEED HER TO PAY ATTENTION TO ME!!!") you call her a B*tch.
When in reality she's just some stranger who OWES You NOTHING.
And she's probably been hit on all night.

It's OK to NOT be the 'perfect guy'.
It's only a problem for guys who are insecure, full of self doubt, needy and clingy and need a woman to validate them.

 

[IKO69]

This is true, my mind is messed up because I have hard time approaching girls other then the club. I just don't have the courage to start a conversation with some random girl. For example I go to university, a great place to meet girls, yet I have never randomly sat next to some attractive girl and carried on a conversation. Its pathetic. Yet no one in my social circle does this as well.
I am at university right now in the library, there are 2 pretty attractive girl's sitting infront of me ( with there back's facing me ) and I just cant do it even though Ive been thinking about it for the passed 15 minutes lol.

Also I should mention that I go to the club with my DJ friend who is 34 ( claims he slept over 1000 girls ). He teaches me how to observe girls, how to approach them and what to say. Usually I mess it up and get rejected.

You'll have to work on that, but, that's okay. For now you must work on small talk. When you see a girl you like in passing or whatever see if she smiles at you. If she doesn't, then you smile first and see if she smiles back, then get to it. It's simple and there really is no other way. Over time you'll become more comfortable and will find cold approaching much easier.

However, if most of the women you come across are total ice queens, then don't worry about giving them attention. They don't deserve any anyway.

 

[Rollo Tomassi]

Your charming personality and bulletproof game wont make you look any better when your shirt comes of. Get to the gym.

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