IF you ARE single and having women troubles

[nightcrawler]

I wouldnt consider myself a "HB9-10" maybe a 7.5-8.
And its not just the HBs that have so many options, Hot spunky guys also have loads of options and plenty of women throwing themselves at him.
Hence why in a way i never really go for guys that are absolute spunks as i know i wouldnt be his only option, and even if he did consider me it would 9 times out of 10 he would most probably use me for one thing....

This site also preaches the fact that esculating straight to sex when building attraction is the key to a girls heart or to show her that your not interested in being "friends". I disagree with this hugely..
First of all as someone thats in the dating game and has morals, any guy that i find attractive and am enjoying getting to know i wouldnt just sleep with instantly because i like you. Guys that keep pushing me for sex or base all our conversations around sex to me come of as someone who is desperate and a tad creepy.....sure i dont mind talking about it A BIT but to keep pushing me to meet up with you for sex because you cant handle being friends first just shows me your not worthy of a relationship and not to mention a QUALITY women wouldnt just sleep with you after one night of speaking to you....unless of course they're a tad s1utty or just after 'fun' and then in that case your fine. Its not just me that thinks this but i have plenty of HB9 friends who will agree with me and say the same. Why should she take your d1ck over all the other d1cks that want her?!

I have put myself on dating sites and its always the same sh1t every time. Men crying out for quality women, when themselves arent even quality, men who have high expectations of meeting a "jessica alba" look a like! get real here! your not going to find her on sites such as "POF or match maker" and even if you did i would question why such a princess with awesome traits is doing on such sites.

Women arent any better when it comes to dating, alot of them too need to lower their expectaions aswell. They need to realize that just because they receieve so much attention from men, it doesnt necessarily validate their self worth or make them 10 times hotter.

I just find this dating game these days is all about "looks". Those that are single male and female also never really take the time to get to know people for what they are and what theyre all about, its all about how good looking you are and if your down to fu*k and then they both whinge when they cant find quality people....Well maybe become quality yourself, change what your after, actually make effort to get to know people instead of rushing in to get laid and judging purely on their appearances and you might find a winner.

pics?

i honestly picture you as either a butch or a plain jane

no hate just saying

 

[Leopold]

women.... they say one thing... they do another... pfftt

At least I'm getting more attention with my new attitude.

 

[sstype]

I know lots of women say that they "make the special guy that they really like" wait, and maybe that's true, but I have a hard time getting my head around that. It's so counterintuitive.

I hate that jerk = I slept with him.

I love this guy = I'll sleep with him eventually.

Girls seeking an LTR want to make sure the guy isn't a player and is willing to wait and get to know her first. I don't see a problem with that. If she was merely looking for a f*ck, then you waited too long by the time you asked for her phone number. Make your intentions known right away and let her decide if she wants what you're offering.

The problem with guys is the "f*ck first, ask questions later" mentality when it comes to seeking an LTR and don't take the time to also screen her as well to determine if she is suitable long-term material.

If she's sniffing around with other guys while you two are dating, then why would you take her seriously as GF material anyways? Anyways, you should take that time you're waiting to assess her personality, mental state, types of friends she hangs with, relationship with her family, before you jump into the sack with her. Smart men understand the difference between just getting laid and finding someone to spend your valuable time with.

 

[LearningSlowly]

Girls are stupid.

Why you coming on this site to bash dudes who are trying to improve?

BLAH BLAH BLAH DOESNT WORK! YOU GOTTA DO THIS!

^Well, its just about as easy to take your advice as it is to take the advice of a pick up guru, which is to say, very hard. It takes a long time to change a personality, just reading your post doesn't change anything for me.

But guess what!

I KNOW I'm moving in the right direction. Wanna know how?

Girls like me more than they used to!

So I'm going to base my future progress on what I've found girls actually want in my experience, not on what you think.

 

[spartanfan]

Don't you realize this girl is just crying for attention posting in this forum... How sad can we get for responding this cry for ATTENTION!!!!!! TROLL ALERT HAHA

 

[Desdinova]

Not sure if I've welcomed you to the forum yet, but welcome aboard. Please don't mind the noobs who will eventually practice seducing you instead of answering your questions. They have yet to perfect approaching women in the real world.

I will try to answer your questions honestly...

WHY are YOU single or having trouble with women? Whats wrong with YOU?!

Currently, nothing. I began solving my problem with women over ten years ago. But if you must know what was wrong with me, I'll give you the very basic summary. I was essentially born into a religious cult where I was taught that women who were NOT part of the cult were wh0res, sluts, and AIDS-carriers. I was to avoid women at all cost until I became an adult. I was punished by my mother if I interacted with women extensively.

1. For guys that are on dating sites, DO NOT judge profiles by their photos alone! Get real here! If a person is good looking, emotionally stable, and fun would she really be on a dating site?

I've dated two women from dating sites. They weren't perfect, but they weren't as fvcked up as many of the women I've met in the real world.

2. Even if this type of princess exists, Don't make everything you chat about with her all sexual related especially at the beginning when building attraction...its a huge turn off and you only come across as creepy and desperate and if you want a QUALITY Women then become a QUALITY man!!!

You're telling us what we already know.

Alot of guys seem to always go for the "HB" getting excited when they give you their number or flirt with you and then get frustrated when they "play games" with you... Just remember this, these "HB"s Probably more than anything have PLENTY of other men in their lives! and 9 times out of 10 if you do pursue anything hoping for something meaningful, ultimately you will be left feeling frustrated, disappointed and used.

Again, we already know this.

So the question is even if you do score your HB who has everything you desire and wish for, would YOU have what it takes to keep her?

Yes.

What DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER her besides whats in between your legs that every other man in the world possesses.....WHY should she settle for little old you?!

Fun, excitement, confidence, a nice little ride on the emotional rollercoaster, and fantastic orgasm-exploding sex. Pleasing my woman in all these areas makes me confident that she's happy with the relationship. She KNOWS I'm better than all the other men she's dated because none of them could offer her what she needs in terms of satisfaction from the relationship.

So....I ask you to have more realistic expectations when it comes to dating and especially on dating sites and to sometimes give those who might not be your "HB9" a benefit of the doubt...they might be just as good.

I've dated women who are NOT the HB9. You know what happens? I lose interest. If the woman is not highly physically attractive to me, I become high maintenance in the relationship. She NEEDS to be respectful, considerate, generous, and have a stellar personality to keep me interested. When she starts showing me that her personality is NOT stellar, then I prefer to dump the relationship instead of making it work. I'd be much more inclined to maintain a relationship with a woman I find physically attractive.

What you're failing to realize while asking all these questions is that men's emotions are highly triggered by the physical appearance of a woman. Women on the other hand have their emotions highly triggered by men with stellar personalities. Instead of coming to the conclusion that men and women are (or should be) attracted to the same things, you may want to realize that men and women are indeed different and are drawn to different things.

This is why so many men on the internet try to 'arouse' women by showing pictures of their d1ck or by attempting to talk sexual. They don't realize that women are NOT like men in being emotionally triggered by physical appearance.

 

[ositosucio]

Oh really? and how do you explain according to your logic that a normal guy with a normal body doing a normal job and living a normal life if moved to Brazil or Russia can easily get a normal girl with a normal body living a normal life?

Dont you consider other factors as male overpopulation or attractive female underpopulation due to fat epidemic?
Add the media who tell girls they dont need a man and the average female sheep mentality and you get girls who are more than fine with getting attention only and save the sex and feelings for captain america or thor.

you are 100% correct. I have traveled the world. Although I have no trouble in Miami spinning plates left and right I can say this to all my american buddies. GET OUT OF THE COUNTRY.

The US is the land of the fat ass, self-centered, princess complex, ignorant, arrogant and delusional *****es.

Thanks to the crap we have on TV, FB , etc this is the case. Guys, a "10" in the USA is a 4 in Russia, Brazil, Argentina, etc, etc, etc....

wake the **** up please.

and to the OP. how much do u weight?

 

[ositosucio]

I wouldnt consider myself a "HB9-10" maybe a 7.5-8.

ill translate that: you are a 5 at best. Post your picture holding up a sign that says Sosuave is the lame and ill follow with one too...

 

[JohnChops]

lol taking advice from a woman is a terrible idea. period.

 

[sstype]

OP....I think you ought to take your own advice given your most recent thread.

 

[synergy1]

I read the OP and have to say that there is nothing new or original proposed here that hasn't been outlined before. For a newbie, its difficult to sift through the bad posts but those of us who have been a part of the community for a while have an easier time at filtering the crap.

As an aside, I love how people in this community react when a women posts. Its like Armageddon and the world is about to end. Its as if our ideals are weak and the only way to defend them is violent protest. Here is what separates the men from the boys; don't over react when a women does something like this. Its no wonder most guys are single. I can just see it now. Some dude is all about alpha/game, but when a women walks by, they turn into a 17 year old teenager.

Back to the topic at hand, the question posed was the following:

Why are you still single

For me, its a combination of work, bad luck meeting women, and my own personality. Since november, I have had odd shift work and late shifts so a normal 'dating' life wasn't happening. When you get home at 11:00 at night, no chick is going to want to go out with you when she has to be up for work. Another factor is the women I meet. My only real vehicle to meet women is when I go out on weekends. I have been on dates and did not ask them out again. Some women can't even get their **** together and meet up, or return calls. I simply stop talking to women who have no respect for returning calls and the like. Lastly, I put the onus on myself for not dating who I want. I can be picky when it comes to women, and this tends to leave you with fewer options. Another issue I have is that most women's personalities bore the heck outta me, so its hard to engage them in a meaningful way to create attraction. Some guys are naturals, some are not. I am somewhere in the middle of that spectrum

I'd like to date more, but I am just as fine being single at the time being too. My philosophy is that whatever happens, happens. For now, playing it by ear is the best way to approach life.

 

[FairShake]

This is true. I can't think of many (any?) guys I personally know that are average-to-above-looking, socially adept, and middle-class-to-above who are not married or dating even occasionally. If you are single and not getting anything it's time to step back and take a look at what you are doing wrong. My guess is your look isn't working, you may be a little socially awkward (probably the case, we are on a website asking strangers for advice after all), or kind of poor and showing it.

 

[ilikecharlene]

I don't mean offence, but women shouldn't give dating advice. All women are different, so saying "i'm a woman, I know who we work!" can only be a rule of thumb at best.

I laugh at people like Kezia Noble, since this is her approach. her saving grace as PUA is her looks, marks out of ten I'd give her 20.

 

[ilikecharlene]

Further, if somebody is single, it's simple as to why IMO:

- they lack good looks (not an absolute bar, granted, given how many ugmos get married or are in relationships)

- they lack confidence

- they lack social skills

All of these to some extent can be fixed. Dress smarter, like yourself, and relate better to people.

 

[djgirl]

i like how i get flamed just because im a chick whose just trying to point out a few things :-/

i'll agree im not the perfect PUA, ive been dating since i was 18 and im 24 now and have only had 2 short relationships with women who have left me for other people, and same with girls ive just hooked up with...they just play me untill they find someone better...around around it goes.

guys seem to only use me for sex as you can see on my other thread.....i dont know when things are going to turn around for me

 

[wait_out]

gotta protect that heart djgirl.... can't emotionally invest in people before you really know them, can't take strangers too seriously either because they may have an agenda that conflicts with your own. If you are taking criticism to heart on this site, you are being way too sensitive.

I didn't think your advice was that off... but, that doesn't mean you won't get flamed anyway. People act in accord with their own agenda... just because you act the way you'd like to be treated, doesn't mean they will accord you the same in return. That goes for DATING as well.

You're a little down today, what you need to do is find a way to pull out of your nosedive and level out. You cannot control other people, only yourself... it's very hard to take control of your life when your emotions swing all over the place.

Don't be a PUA, be a DJ... by which we mean, someone who has control of their emotions, knowledge of self and others, and isn't trying to assuage any inner needs through either sex or relationships. Until you get to that point, you're going to be very vulnerable even if the guy or girl sticks around.

 

[FairShake]

All of these to some extent can be fixed. Dress smarter, like yourself, and relate better to people.

I don't know how much you can change how you relate to people after, say, 25 or so. Plus I think social intelligence is similar to regular intelligence in that you are born with a certain potential and it's up to you to live up to it and be content with it. Which, of course, comes to the "like yourself" angle.

Dressing better does help many guys immeasurably though.

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

i like how i get flamed just because im a chick whose just trying to point out a few things :-/

i'll agree im not the perfect PUA, ive been dating since i was 18 and im 24 now and have only had 2 short relationships with women who have left me for other people, and same with girls ive just hooked up with...they just play me untill they find someone better...around around it goes.

guys seem to only use me for sex as you can see on my other thread.....i dont know when things are going to turn around for me

Because your are a jump-off.... you are a h0. Get your sh!t together and guys will want to stay.

 

[djgirl]

Because your are a jump-off.... you are a h0. Get your sh!t together and guys will want to stay.

how am i a h0 and a jump off? please explain?

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

how am i a h0 and a jump off? please explain?

Guys don't take Bi's seriously and for good reason.