IF you ARE single and having women troubles

[djgirl]

It is probably for a good reason = THERES PROBABLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR HOW YOUR GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS!!

Alot of you will ignore this because im a female and you likely don't give a toss about a womans opinion but im not here to criticize, just simply want to open your eyes to a few things:

So let me ask you a question........WHY are YOU single or having trouble with women? Whats wrong with YOU?!

Truth be told i actually feel sorry for the modern man: Yes women are complicated creatures, we have different sets of emotions than men and 9 times out of 10 a lot of chicks overlook nice decent guys...Having said that though it is also quite obvisious that men can have some unrealistic expectations too....

MEN MEN MEN PLEASE READ THIS......start seeing the dating game for what it really is!!

Lets be honest here for just one moment:
1. For guys that are on dating sites, DO NOT judge profiles by their photos alone! Get real here! If a person is good looking, emotionally stable, and fun would she really be on a dating site?
2. Even if this type of princess exists, Don't make everything you chat about with her all sexual related especially at the beginning when building attraction...its a huge turn off and you only come across as creepy and desperate and if you want a QUALITY Women then become a QUALITY man!!!

Alot of guys seem to always go for the "HB" getting excited when they give you their number or flirt with you and then get frustrated when they "play games" with you... Just remember this, these "HB"s Probably more than anything have PLENTY of other men in their lives! and 9 times out of 10 if you do pursue anything hoping for something meaningful, ultimately you will be left feeling frustrated, disappointed and used.

Which leads me to my next bit:
So the question is even if you do score your HB who has everything you desire and wish for, would YOU have what it takes to keep her?
What DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER her besides whats in between your legs that every other man in the world possesses.....WHY should she settle for little old you?!

So....I ask you to have more realistic expectations when it comes to dating and especially on dating sites and to sometimes give those who might not be your "HB9" a benefit of the doubt...they might be just as good.

Think what has worked in the past, why it has worked and equally what hasn't worked and why.
Most importantly develop a REALISTIC framework from which you can select girls based on important and real qualities that ACTUALLY make a genuine contribution to your life! Rather than: "You are HOT... Lets be friends."

I hope this leaves you with something to think about!

 

[DonGorgon]

It is probably for a good reason = THERES PROBABLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR HOW YOUR GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS!!

^^^this type of thought is why males are in such a bad place these days .. the environment has shifted such that if you are not a top 10 alpha dude you will struggle but the feminist controlled media will tell you to blame yourself and tell you to work harder , get more money, dress more cool, do more for women, etc etc .. when in fact its women that have changes because they have so many options they are now rejection 90% of men who approach them but still end up with many many men in their lives due to male over population.

 

[5string]

To the OP chickie:

Know this. If it has tires on it or bleeds once a month, you'll have trouble with it.

That's just the way it is.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Oh really? and how do you explain according to your logic that a normal guy with a normal body doing a normal job and living a normal life if moved to Brazil or Russia can easily get a normal girl with a normal body living a normal life?

Dont you consider other factors as male overpopulation or attractive female underpopulation due to fat epidemic?
Add the media who tell girls they dont need a man and the average female sheep mentality and you get girls who are more than fine with getting attention only and save the sex and feelings for captain america or thor.

 

[Iceberg]

Oh really? and how do you explain according to your logic that a normal guy with a normal body doing a normal job and living a normal life if moved to Brazil or Russia can easily get a normal girl with a normal body living a normal life?

Poverty?

But seriously. Don't fool yourself into thinking that there aren't a sh!t load of guys in Brazil, Russia, and everywhere else complaining about women.

Don't fall into this "grass is greener" mentality.

 

[5string]

Oh really? and how do you explain according to your logic that a normal guy with a normal body doing a normal job and living a normal life if moved to Brazil or Russia can easily get a normal girl with a normal body living a normal life?

Dont you consider other factors as male overpopulation or attractive female underpopulation due to fat epidemic?
Add the media who tell girls they dont need a man and the average female sheep mentality and you get girls who are more than fine with getting attention only and save the sex and feelings for captain america or thor.

Are you describing yourself? If you were that perfect, you would not be on this forum.

I'm not fooled.

 

[MisterD]

ok, i'll play along. keep in mind we are of the opposite sex, so my views may not be in line with yours. i'll keep it civil and do the best i can to give you real answers that make you think

It is probably for a good reason = THERES PROBABLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR HOW YOUR GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS!!

but, right here you admit

9 times out of 10 a lot of chicks overlook nice decent guys

so why is it automatically a problem on the man's end if you've already admitted women often overlook good men?

Lets be honest here for just one moment:
1. For guys that are on dating sites, DO NOT judge profiles by their photos alone!

fair enough. only that we ask women do the same. countless experiments have been conducted, not just here, but multiple sites, where guys make fake profiles with pics of a very attractive man, some of the findings include: women being the aggressor and messaging the man first, sometimes from a sexual frame, agreeing to meet up for casual sex despite saying in their profiles they're not looking for random hookups. the verdict? women care just as much about looks as men.

Get real here! If a person is good looking, emotionally stable, and fun would she really be on a dating site?

so can we chalk this up to one of the reasons some men are struggling to find a good woman? poor quality in the online dating world? that would be two reasons so far--one being that women overlook decent guys, as you yourself pointed out, and low quality women on dating sites.

2. Even if this type of princess exists, Don't make everything you chat about with her all sexual related especially at the beginning when building attraction...its a huge turn off and you only come across as creepy and desperate

most men here can attest to the fact that getting sexual early leads to dates and physical interactions. avoiding sexual escalation puts you in the friend zone. a lot of men on here missed out on sexual experiences early on because they listened to what you just said. when a single man and a single woman share a level of attraction, it's only natural that it will lead to sex at some point. a man who is sexually attracted to a woman and is told to hide it and never reveal it is unnatural. there is a right way and wrong way of sexually escalating, but it is vital to landing a woman.

Alot of guys seem to always go for the "HB" getting excited when they give you their number or flirt with you and then get frustrated when they "play games" with you... Just remember this, these "HB"s Probably more than anything have PLENTY of other men in their lives! and 9 times out of 10 if you do pursue anything hoping for something meaningful, ultimately you will be left feeling frustrated, disappointed and used.

so you're saying pretty girls flirt with men just to do it? lead them on with no intention of hooking up with him? we can add that to the list of problems single men face. you also say she has plenty of other guys in her life? so she has options? add that. so far we have--girls overlooking decent guys, poor quality online, girls who lead guys on, and girls picking and choosing selectively because they have options

Which leads me to my next bit:
So the question is even if you do score your HB who has everything you desire and wish for, would YOU have what it takes to keep her?
What DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER her besides whats in between your legs that every other man in the world possesses.....WHY should she settle for little old you?!

this can easily be flipped into what do girls offer men, besides sex that they find valuable enough to stay with her and just her? both sexes need to be quality, both should be asking themselves this question, not just single men.

So....I ask you to have more realistic expectations when it comes to dating and especially on dating sites and to sometimes give those who might not be your "HB9" a benefit of the doubt...they might be just as good.

i dont know who you are or what your relationship status is--but this sounds like something a frustrated girl might say when she sees "9's" and "10's" getting men she feels she deserves, and wants the man to lower his standards and settle with her instead. as in, she's looking for a high quality man, turns down anyone she feels isn't, and when she's left dateless, wants one of those men chasing high quality women, to lower his standards and give her a shot. i'm not saying this is your life personally, but that part of the post seems like something a girl like that would say.

Most importantly develop a REALISTIC framework from which you can select girls based on important and real qualities that ACTUALLY make a genuine contribution to your life!

I definitely agree with this, and this site does a good job of driving home this point. The more experienced, mature members on here do a good job of showing how to land a quality woman. Some guys are just here to brag and show off their sexual conquests, but others give sound advice on how to land the right woman.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Poverty?

But seriously. Don't fool yourself into thinking that there aren't a sh!t load of guys in Brazil, Russia, and everywhere else complaining about women.

Don't fall into this "grass is greener" mentality.

Been there different times and pulled like a pro, saw the same thing in local guys (normal folk like me) who would get nothing in western europe.
Have you ever been there? Its really refreshing to see guys who are loved and respected without them being jewelry thief, athletes or uber alphas with ass tight game.

Are you describing yourself? If you were that perfect, you would not be on this forum.

I'm not fooled.

What do you mean? whats so perfect in normal guy with a normal job and a norma life I spoke about before?

 

[5string]

Been there different times and pulled like a pro, saw the same thing in local guys (normal folk like me) who would get nothing in western europe.
Have you ever been there? Its really refreshing to see guys who are loved and respected without them being jewelry thief, athletes or uber alphas with ass tight game.


What do you mean? whats so perfect in normal guy with a normal job and a norma life I spoke about before?

Here's my point sport. I asked you if you were the perfect "normal" guy that all the women desire? Even if you were, I highly doubt that you'll ever find the perfect "normal" girl even in Brazil, Russia or Po Dunk that won't sh!t test your a$$ or give you major grief at some point.

If you believe "the perfect normal woman" exists, I have a Russian T72 tank I'll sell ya.

 

[Who Dares Win]

Here's my point sport. I asked you if you were the perfect "normal" guy that all the women desire? Even if you were, I highly doubt that you'll ever find the perfect "normal" girl even in Brazil, Russia or Po Dunk that won't sh!t test your a$$ or give you major grief at some point.

If you believe "the perfect normal woman" exists, I have a Russian T72 tank I'll sell ya.

I spoke about PERFECT normal guys/girls nowhere except your imagination.

 

[Robert28]

ok, i'll play along. keep in mind we are of the opposite sex, so my views may not be in line with yours. i'll keep it civil and do the best i can to give you real answers that make you think



but, right here you admit



so why is it automatically a problem on the man's end if you've already admitted women often overlook good men?



fair enough. only that we ask women do the same. countless experiments have been conducted, not just here, but multiple sites, where guys make fake profiles with pics of a very attractive man, some of the findings include: women being the aggressor and messaging the man first, sometimes from a sexual frame, agreeing to meet up for casual sex despite saying in their profiles they're not looking for random hookups. the verdict? women care just as much about looks as men.



so can we chalk this up to one of the reasons some men are struggling to find a good woman? poor quality in the online dating world? that would be two reasons so far--one being that women overlook decent guys, as you yourself pointed out, and low quality women on dating sites.



most men here can attest to the fact that getting sexual early leads to dates and physical interactions. avoiding sexual escalation puts you in the friend zone. a lot of men on here missed out on sexual experiences early on because they listened to what you just said. when a single man and a single woman share a level of attraction, it's only natural that it will lead to sex at some point. a man who is sexually attracted to a woman and is told to hide it and never reveal it is unnatural. there is a right way and wrong way of sexually escalating, but it is vital to landing a woman.



so you're saying pretty girls flirt with men just to do it? lead them on with no intention of hooking up with him? we can add that to the list of problems single men face. you also say she has plenty of other guys in her life? so she has options? add that. so far we have--girls overlooking decent guys, poor quality online, girls who lead guys on, and girls picking and choosing selectively because they have options



this can easily be flipped into what do girls offer men, besides sex that they find valuable enough to stay with her and just her? both sexes need to be quality, both should be asking themselves this question, not just single men.



i dont know who you are or what your relationship status is--but this sounds like something a frustrated girl might say when she sees "9's" and "10's" getting men she feels she deserves, and wants the man to lower his standards and settle with her instead. as in, she's looking for a high quality man, turns down anyone she feels isn't, and when she's left dateless, wants one of those men chasing high quality women, to lower his standards and give her a shot. i'm not saying this is your life personally, but that part of the post seems like something a girl like that would say.




I definitely agree with this, and this site does a good job of driving home this point. The more experienced, mature members on here do a good job of showing how to land a quality woman. Some guys are just here to brag and show off their sexual conquests, but others give sound advice on how to land the right woman.

someone give this guy a beer....or a trophy :yes: :rockon:

 

[nismo-4]

If you are single and having trouble with women, just take that time to make more muscles and make more money.

All women, whether pretty, fat, old, or ugly, have so many damn options it's unreal. Rejecting them doesn't faze them.

 

[LuisGarcia10]

I have got realistic expectations.
I work hard to have a good body, I'm no cover model (yet) but I look good, I work hard in my job and I've got a lot of talent, the fact my job is a chef makes me a little more appealing to women maybe.... I dress well, look after myself and do my best in everything.
Wanting a girl that is all of the above is realistic, I'd honestly rather be single than be with someone I think is below me, and I'm sure you think the same.

 

[bigneil]

It is probably for a good reason = THERES PROBABLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR HOW YOUR GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS!!

There is definitely something wrong with anyone who has a crappy attitude like this.

On the contrary to the OP, many people stay single because it's a self-normalizing process. People reject many below a certain line and are rejected by those above a certain line, leaving a small competitive zone. Only a certain percentage of those who remain will be single and attracted to you. Then psychology plays a role and we turn down lots of opportunities based on subtle details, wanting what we can't have. We don't call half the numbers we do get. It's hard to find mutual attraction at your own level. The hotter you are, the hotter you expect them to be.

 

[Alex DeLarge]

Both sexes struggle with finding a partner who suits their needs and desires. I agree with the dating site thing in some circumstances, however how about a woman who just moved to a new area who does not want to hang around in seedy bars on the weekend?

I find that my problem is a lot of the women I date think that I'm a player, when in reality I only stick with one woman at a time. (I don't really care for the plate spinning rule. This is a code for myself, I consider occupying my time with studies, exercise, hobbies, and seeing friends to be enough.) I get this player label easily because I play in a band that is quite popular locally, and females comment on my facebook page a lot.

Is that my problem? I wouldn't say so.

 

[sighsigh]

OP, I don't understand what you are trying to say. My best interpretation is that you are saying all men should lower their standards.

 

[bigneil]

Like Alex, I usually stay with one girl. It's only when I'm single like now that I try to find a bunch at once. If you really can get the best girl (at work, or in the neighborhood, or at the bar) why would you want another? Getting the best girl automatically prequalifies you with any other girl she knows. It's therefore hard to replace them since they were the best.

 

[nightcrawler]

It is probably for a good reason = THERES PROBABLY SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOU OR HOW YOUR GOING ABOUT YOUR BUSINESS!!

Alot of you will ignore this because im a female and you likely don't give a toss about a womans opinion but im not here to criticize, just simply want to open your eyes to a few things:

So let me ask you a question........WHY are YOU single or having trouble with women? Whats wrong with YOU?!

Truth be told i actually feel sorry for the modern man: Yes women are complicated creatures, we have different sets of emotions than men and 9 times out of 10 a lot of chicks overlook nice decent guys...Having said that though it is also quite obvisious that men can have some unrealistic expectations too....

MEN MEN MEN PLEASE READ THIS......start seeing the dating game for what it really is!!

Lets be honest here for just one moment:
1. For guys that are on dating sites, DO NOT judge profiles by their photos alone! Get real here! If a person is good looking, emotionally stable, and fun would she really be on a dating site?
2. Even if this type of princess exists, Don't make everything you chat about with her all sexual related especially at the beginning when building attraction...its a huge turn off and you only come across as creepy and desperate and if you want a QUALITY Women then become a QUALITY man!!!

Alot of guys seem to always go for the "HB" getting excited when they give you their number or flirt with you and then get frustrated when they "play games" with you... Just remember this, these "HB"s Probably more than anything have PLENTY of other men in their lives! and 9 times out of 10 if you do pursue anything hoping for something meaningful, ultimately you will be left feeling frustrated, disappointed and used.

Which leads me to my next bit:
So the question is even if you do score your HB who has everything you desire and wish for, would YOU have what it takes to keep her?
What DO YOU HAVE TO OFFER her besides whats in between your legs that every other man in the world possesses.....WHY should she settle for little old you?!

So....I ask you to have more realistic expectations when it comes to dating and especially on dating sites and to sometimes give those who might not be your "HB9" a benefit of the doubt...they might be just as good.

Think what has worked in the past, why it has worked and equally what hasn't worked and why.
Most importantly develop a REALISTIC framework from which you can select girls based on important and real qualities that ACTUALLY make a genuine contribution to your life! Rather than: "You are HOT... Lets be friends."

I hope this leaves you with something to think about!

I agree with the thread title completely. As far as I'm concerned you shouldn't be having trouble with women if you aren't emotionally attached to one.....it's that emotional attachment when all the problems begin.

I donno why you went on that tangent though....it has nothing to do with the thread title?

Also..why are you on a forum full of socially ackward men that here trying to get laid men that are trying to get laid? shouldn't you be on i donno...twitter? facebook? looking up new cupcake recepies?

P.S.

if you have a big butt you can give me all the sympathy you want

 

[djgirl]

I wouldnt consider myself a "HB9-10" maybe a 7.5-8.
And its not just the HBs that have so many options, Hot spunky guys also have loads of options and plenty of women throwing themselves at him.
Hence why in a way i never really go for guys that are absolute spunks as i know i wouldnt be his only option, and even if he did consider me it would 9 times out of 10 he would most probably use me for one thing....

This site also preaches the fact that esculating straight to sex when building attraction is the key to a girls heart or to show her that your not interested in being "friends". I disagree with this hugely..
First of all as someone thats in the dating game and has morals, any guy that i find attractive and am enjoying getting to know i wouldnt just sleep with instantly because i like you. Guys that keep pushing me for sex or base all our conversations around sex to me come of as someone who is desperate and a tad creepy.....sure i dont mind talking about it A BIT but to keep pushing me to meet up with you for sex because you cant handle being friends first just shows me your not worthy of a relationship and not to mention a QUALITY women wouldnt just sleep with you after one night of speaking to you....unless of course they're a tad s1utty or just after 'fun' and then in that case your fine. Its not just me that thinks this but i have plenty of HB9 friends who will agree with me and say the same. Why should she take your d1ck over all the other d1cks that want her?!

I have put myself on dating sites and its always the same sh1t every time. Men crying out for quality women, when themselves arent even quality, men who have high expectations of meeting a "jessica alba" look a like! get real here! your not going to find her on sites such as "POF or match maker" and even if you did i would question why such a princess with awesome traits is doing on such sites.

Women arent any better when it comes to dating, alot of them too need to lower their expectaions aswell. They need to realize that just because they receieve so much attention from men, it doesnt necessarily validate their self worth or make them 10 times hotter.

I just find this dating game these days is all about "looks". Those that are single male and female also never really take the time to get to know people for what they are and what theyre all about, its all about how good looking you are and if your down to fu*k and then they both whinge when they cant find quality people....Well maybe become quality yourself, change what your after, actually make effort to get to know people instead of rushing in to get laid and judging purely on their appearances and you might find a winner.

 

[Mike32ct]

I wouldnt consider myself a "HB9-10" maybe a 7.5-8.

7s and 8s still get a LOT of attention.

And its not just the HBs that have so many options, Hot spunky guys also have loads of options and plenty of women throwing themselves at him.

Not as many as women of equal looks get, but yes, they get a decent number of girls after them.

Hence why in a way i never really go for guys that are absolute spunks as i know i wouldnt be his only option, and even if he did consider me it would 9 times out of 10 he would most probably use me for one thing....

Very true.

This site also preaches the fact that esculating straight to sex when building attraction is the key to a girls heart or to show her that your not interested in being "friends". I disagree with this hugely..

It depends on the context. For a younger party girl (say low 20s), the guy HAS to move fast. I lost several attractive low 20s females when I was in my upper 20s by being too "gentleman-ly" or "hands off."

First of all as someone thats in the dating game and has morals, any guy that i find attractive and am enjoying getting to know i wouldnt just sleep with instantly because i like you. Guys that keep pushing me for sex or base all our conversations around sex to me come of as someone who is desperate and a tad creepy.....sure i dont mind talking about it A BIT but to keep pushing me to meet up with you for sex because you cant handle being friends first just shows me your not worthy of a relationship and not to mention a QUALITY women wouldnt just sleep with you after one night of speaking to you....unless of course they're a tad s1utty or just after 'fun' and then in that case your fine. Its not just me that thinks this but i have plenty of HB9 friends who will agree with me and say the same. Why should she take your d1ck over all the other d1cks that want her?!

I can understand how it can come across creepy if the guy is too sexually aggressive so soon. I mean the guy shouldn't be TOO needy for it or try TOO hard. That I agree. But guys often move fast for a few reasons:

1. With all of the options a girl has, he's not really "on the map" until he's had s*x with her. Sadly, she doesn't have much attachment to the guy she's been on two coffee dates with. She has nothing invested. But the guy she's been intimate with is more likely to be on her mind.

2. It's a validation thing. When she "makes me wait" too long, I feel unattractive. I think your first choice is the hot guy you'll sleep with the same night or the next night. If I have to wait say five dates, I feel like the 5th tier guy that you (reluctantly) give a mercy F to out of obligation and maybe marginal attraction at best.

I know lots of women say that they "make the special guy that they really like" wait, and maybe that's true, but I have a hard time getting my head around that. It's so counterintuitive.

I hate that jerk = I slept with him.

I love this guy = I'll sleep with him eventually.



I have put myself on dating sites and its always the same sh1t every time. Men crying out for quality women, when themselves arent even quality, men who have high expectations of meeting a "jessica alba" look a like! get real here! your not going to find her on sites such as "POF or match maker" and even if you did i would question why such a princess with awesome traits is doing on such sites.

Yeah there's some truth to that.

Women arent any better when it comes to dating, alot of them too need to lower their expectaions aswell. They need to realize that just because they receieve so much attention from men, it doesnt necessarily validate their self worth or make them 10 times hotter.

Plus, as we discuss on here, women can get hotter guys for a one night stand than they can DATE. So they sometimes mistakenly assume that is the level of guy they can keep for a relationship.

I just find this dating game these days is all about "looks".

THANK YOU! Someone who gets it.

Those that are single male and female also never really take the time to get to know people for what they are and what theyre all about, its all about how good looking you are and if your down to fu*k and then they both whinge when they cant find quality people....Well maybe become quality yourself, change what your after, actually make effort to get to know people instead of rushing in to get laid and judging purely on their appearances and you might find a winner.

Very true. The only problem is too many people will dimiss someone by looks without getting to know them.