If you are looking for an LTR

[LADawg49]

Fellas from my time at sosuave, one thing I've noticed is that if you are looking for an FWB or someone to regularly have sex with this site is for you. However, if u are looking for an LTR with a girl that is sweet, classy, of good quality this site is not for you. Don't get me wrong, on the dates you should keep it light and keep it funny and keep it upbeat/positive. However using C+F excessively will only come to backfire upon you unless u r looking for a slut or a *****. Believe me, I've used C+F quite a bit only to see the nice and sweet and classy girls be turned off by it. Also another issue I come to is kino. If you try kino on a respectable/classy woman that u first met, she will get the creeps and run away. In his System, Doc Love states, "DO NOT TOUCH HER, LET HER TOUCH YOU". At first I thought he was nuts but now I agree with it. Women want a man with self control, confidence, and a challenge. Self control means not touching her, letting her touch you instead, not proclaiming your love for her, and keeping your mouth shut unless it will help your cause in raising her interest level. Confidence means asking for the phone number(home or cell), and going for the kiss at the end of the second date. Challenge means not always callling her and letting her chase you. As for the 5-9 day rule. I agree in that u should wait 5 days to call her and 5 days between dates to ask her out, however there are exceptions. If it is incoming where she calls u, then u can ask her out but phone should be used just to ask for the date and hang up. One major thing I disagree on this site is that it says u have to get sex from a woman as soon as possible or NEXT her. Now cmon, only the slutty and desperate girls will give sex to a man they immediatly met. A respectable/classy lady will run away from a man that tries to get sex early on. In other words, focus on having a good time and forget about tryin 2 perform kino on her. If she wants u, she'll touch you. Only thing u do is go for the kiss at the end of the dates and only time u make out with her is if she's all over u. Remember, we are tryin 2 raise her interest level.
Overall I think Doc Love's system is much more helpful than David DeAngelo since Doc's is more for the long term.

 

[italostud]

Even if you're looking for a LTR, you should STILL try to fyck her as soon as possible.

I'll add that kino should always be used. Just because she's a "classy" woman, you're going to avoid physical contact? How does that make sense?

Sure, you might adjust your kino a little bit based on her character. But you still need to do it.

 

[Jus_LikeCandy]

That chases grils away if you try to get @ss right off the bat....It is a turn off cause you seem desperate...

 

[Desdinova]

I have every right to criticize your post, since I'm happily in a LTR.

Fellas from my time at sosuave, one thing I've noticed is that if you are looking for an FWB or someone to regularly have sex with this site is for you. However, if u are looking for an LTR with a girl that is sweet, classy, of good quality this site is not for you.

One thing you need to know is that you CANNOT just jump into a LTR. You need to take small steps to get to that point. You need to develope a STR before you can get into a LTR with a woman. However, this site doesn't help when you're trying to maintain a LTR.

Don't get me wrong, on the dates you should keep it light and keep it funny and keep it upbeat/positive. However using C+F excessively will only come to backfire upon you unless u r looking for a slut or a *****. Believe me, I've used C+F quite a bit only to see the nice and sweet and classy girls be turned off by it.

Have you considered that it may be the way you convey your CF attitude that is turning women off? I STILL use CF on my woman to this day, and she loves it.

Also another issue I come to is kino. If you try kino on a respectable/classy woman that u first met, she will get the creeps and run away.

Rapport before Kino. Not Kino before Rapport.

In his System, Doc Love states, "DO NOT TOUCH HER, LET HER TOUCH YOU". At first I thought he was nuts but now I agree with it. Women want a man with self control, confidence, and a challenge. Self control means not touching her, letting her touch you instead,

Some women get just as nervous around a guy. If you spend your life waiting, you're gonna grow old and die. I found it's much better to take the initiative and do something rather than sit and wait. If she backs off, so what? No point in wasting your time on someone who isn't interested in you enough to enjoy your touch.

Confidence means asking for the phone number(home or cell), and going for the kiss at the end of the second date.

If you portray yourself as being fun and comfortable, you won't have to worry about that kiss at the end of any date. You'll automatically get it.

Challenge means not always callling her and letting her chase you. As for the 5-9 day rule. I agree in that u should wait 5 days to call her and 5 days between dates to ask her out, however there are exceptions.

I've come to disagree with phone games. Strike while the iron's hot. Phone games were only created to help an AFC eliminate desperation and learn self-control.

If it is incoming where she calls u, then u can ask her out but phone should be used just to ask for the date and hang up.

I agree with the purpose of the phone.

One major thing I disagree on this site is that it says u have to get sex from a woman as soon as possible or NEXT her.

Not sure where you read that, but I've found that you need to portray yourself as comfortable being sexual with someone of the opposite sex.

In other words, focus on having a good time and forget about tryin 2 perform kino on her.

Why not have the best of both worlds? Personally, I have fun when I'm touching a woman.

Only thing u do is go for the kiss at the end of the dates and only time u make out with her is if she's all over u.

Disagree. Kino will make her comfortable with kissing you. Kissing before kino is like jumping into a LTR without going out on a single date. The kiss without previous touch is going to creep her out. After the first kiss, you can combine kissing with kino and move up to kissing her and TOUCHING her in more sensitive places (ie the neck).

Remember, we are tryin 2 raise her interest level.

Exactly, but you must raise it in steps, not jumps.

 

[Qmanchoo]

The one type of kino you can always use on a classy girl and get away with...

- When you're opening a door for her and she's about to walk in reach around and place your hand on the small of her back and "lead her in", do it lightly though. I also reccomend not looking at her while you do this to convey that it's no big deal and simply part of how you act.

 

[themanwithnoname]

if you're looking for "sweet, classy, of good quality" you better be the same, which I doubt.

 

[LADawg49]

Hey I'll admit I got my fair share of flaws but I was just stating from experiences.

 

[Kaine]

Doc Love is good but a bit conservative.

And people tend to focus too much on the ****y and funny aspect of De Angelos teaching.

Its better to borrow a little bit of the best from everything and then calibrate it depending on the girl.

I also agree with Italostud, even with LTR you should bed her as soon as possible (not withstanding time taking to tease or and create anticipation).

The nice girls I've had the pleasure to have relationships with I've slept with around the month mark. And usually the girl is expecting it. I think this is normal if you have your game up and built a powerful attraction.


Kaine

 

[LADawg49]

I didn't mean to come off as harsh or anythin. As for the sex issue, if it happens, it happens. When I'm with a woman, I'm just gonna focus on keepin in light and funny and just havin a good time. If it leads to sex, so be it. But I'm not gonna force the action, i'll just let it happen when the time is right.

 

[Plain & Simple]

i been wondering this too...so i guess this site is no good for me and my gf then since weve been together for 8 months and now im just trynna maintain the LTR.