If you are afraid to escalate you have no business posting about lack of success

[marmel75]

Getting tired of reading the same posts over and over and over from different people.

Common theme is they attempted no escalation in date, no kissing in date, no kino or very limited kino, then wonder why the girl isn't messaging them back.

It's not her that's the problem, YOU are the problem. It's like you are playing a sport, don't know the rules and then wonder why you are losing 15-0 every game. Duh!

If you want to play the game and win, you have to at least know the rules of engagement in date and that is escalation leads to deepening attraction while lack of escalation shrivels up attraction like a pond in a desert in the middle of the summer.

Stop crying about your lack of success when you are afraid to even get in the game. Play to win instead of playing not to lose. Cause you are going to lose with that mindset anyway.

Women don't like scared little boys.

From this point forward I don't want to read another post crying about how well the date went and what to do when she doesn't respond back when there was no escalation on your part. Women aren't interested in meeting gay friends on dates.

Someone needs to sticky this damn post...I'm sure plenty of others are tired of reading the same post 5 times a day.

 

[BetterCallSaul]

Getting tired of reading the same posts over and over and over from different people.

Common theme is they attempted no escalation in date, no kissing in date, no kino or very limited kino, then wonder why the girl isn't messaging them back.

It's not her that's the problem, YOU are the problem. It's like you are playing a sport, don't know the rules and then wonder why you are losing 15-0 every game. Duh!

If you want to play the game and win, you have to at least know the rules of engagement in date and that is escalation leads to deepening attraction while lack of escalation shrivels up attraction like a pond in a desert in the middle of the summer.

Stop crying about your lack of success when you are afraid to even get in the game. Play to win instead of playing not to lose. Cause you are going to lose with that mindset anyway.

Women don't like scared little boys.

From this point forward I don't want to read another post crying about how well the date went and what to do when she doesn't respond back when there was no escalation on your part. Women aren't interested in meeting gay friends on dates.

Someone needs to sticky this damn post...I'm sure plenty of others are tired of reading the same post 5 times a day.

You sir are my long lost brother.

 

[Dingo]

Rejection is Better than Regret...

Always escalate.

 

[ERB]

Put this in the bible

 

[ChalengeGuyFan]

But this is why we are here: to fix our problems related to women - escalation or whatever.

Of course most problems are with us, not with the women.
Remember that there are ugly guys, non-interesting guys, poor guys, guys with bad attitudes and so on who are decent at hooking up.

So if anyone can't do it, then the problem is within himself.

 

[LiveYourDream]

Fear isn't the issue. It's the unwillingness to act in spite of it.

 

[JohnChops]

People are stubborn ****s who don't want to apply what they know

 

[Dhoulmagus]

Lmao it's never the woman's fault. Op pedastilizing women right now

 

[Vivacity]

Do I need to be needy and desperate on the first date itself?

Do I need to be creepy and pervert on the first date itself?

Do I need to kiss so many frogs on the first date itself to find a worthwhile woman?

Do I need to make it all about sex from the first date itself?

Isn't there a better way to handle and do this, because as a human being (supposedly, the smartest animal God has ever created since this universe came into existence), I am supposed to have a brain and that brain is supposed to think? Where am I heading in my life?

 

[Huffman]

Do I need to be needy and desperate on the first date itself?

Do I need to be creepy and pervert on the first date itself?

Do I need to kiss so many frogs on the first date itself to find a worthwhile woman?

Do I need to make it all about sex from the first date itself?

Isn't there a better way to handle and do this, because as a human being (supposedly, the smartest animal God has ever created since this universe came into existence), I am supposed to have a brain and that brain is supposed to think? Where am I heading in my life?

Dude, you should take a break from dating.

 

[Vivacity]

Dude, you should take a break from dating.

Will you continue dating women on my behalf and get me a worthwhile woman instead? Does that work?

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Getting tired of reading the same posts over and over and over from different people.

Common theme is they attempted no escalation in date, no kissing in date, no kino or very limited kino, then wonder why the girl isn't messaging them back.

It's not her that's the problem, YOU are the problem. It's like you are playing a sport, don't know the rules and then wonder why you are losing 15-0 every game. Duh!

If you want to play the game and win, you have to at least know the rules of engagement in date and that is escalation leads to deepening attraction while lack of escalation shrivels up attraction like a pond in a desert in the middle of the summer.

Stop crying about your lack of success when you are afraid to even get in the game. Play to win instead of playing not to lose. Cause you are going to lose with that mindset anyway.

Women don't like scared little boys.

From this point forward I don't want to read another post crying about how well the date went and what to do when she doesn't respond back when there was no escalation on your part. Women aren't interested in meeting gay friends on dates.

Someone needs to sticky this damn post...I'm sure plenty of others are tired of reading the same post 5 times a day.

I assume you're talking about me? Someone is still a sourpuss because of the inconvenient truths he read in the political threads...

So you want to stop escalation threads and bad dates threads. That's about 40% of what you see on a daily basis here. Do you want to stop BPD threads? How about online dating threads? Get ex back threads? It's a game forum, you idiot. It's not always as black and white as putting your hand on a woman's V at hello.

You know what I'm sick of? Guys that come on here talking about how they were once The Wolf Of Wall Street, make $100,000 a month, have banged 250 women, or talk like never had a bad date in their lives (you). All of you phonies are compensating for something.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Lmao it's never the woman's fault. Op pedastilizing women right now

Yeah, don't mind him.

marmel is one of those "sociopaths" on here that has banged over 400 women and had a 96% notch rate on the first date. And here's here to always remind and shame others.

 

[BlueAlpha1]

Whether you like Marmel or not, he posted truth.

Very very few females, unless drunk, will initiate sex and escalation with a stranger.

Typically, on a date with a girl you just met, you will have to be the one to initiate physical touch and contact.Hand holding. Knees touching. Kissing . Sexual contact. If done correctly, subtly, where she is not sure if it was accidental, or on purpose.....and it is done over hours....she will be dripping.

Many guys wait and wait........I met a girl from an OLD site one time. Drove to her place and picked her up, we went for lunch (she bought). As soon as we left the restaurant, I took her hand as we walked back to my truck. Had known her about an hour then.

She held my hand until we got to the truck, as soon as we got IN the truck, She reached over and took my hand again.

I signaled my sexual interest by taking her hand. She signaled hers by leaving her hand in mine. She confirmed her interest by re-taking my hand when we got into the truck.


Escalate , kino and interpret responses.

We know the game and good on you for the success story.

I'm responding to marmel because this thread was directed particularly at me, because I balked with one girl this weekend and posted two threads about it. People can go back into the archives going back to 2013 and see this is the first ever "bad date/didn't escalate" thread from me. There have been many dates I escalated and got the bang just fine.

It's his elitist tone that he and a handful of others come at people with on here. I'm not saying people need to be coddled, but this guy has a personal thing against me because of some recent talk on the Anything Else forum. Now he's puffing his chest like he never in his life caught even a momentary oneitis. That's the only reason people come to this forum.

If people acted the way he talks in his posts, you'd get slapped in the face by half the girls you talk to.

 

[MrWiggles]

Lol this was a pretty generalized post... if you think it is about you then maybe you DO have a problem? I dont know man

 

[wifehunter]

What if she has cooties?

 

[marmel75]

I assume you're talking about me? Someone is still a sourpuss because of the inconvenient truths he read in the political threads...

So you want to stop escalation threads and bad dates threads. That's about 40% of what you see on a daily basis here. Do you want to stop BPD threads? How about online dating threads? Get ex back threads? It's a game forum, you idiot. It's not always as black and white as putting your hand on a woman's V at hello.

You know what I'm sick of? Guys that come on here talking about how they were once The Wolf Of Wall Street, make $100,000 a month, have banged 250 women, or talk like never had a bad date in their lives (you). All of you phonies are compensating for something.

It wasn't directed at you, merely my thoughts on a conglomeratation of posts that I have been reading for the last month and it gets tiring to answer the same question over and over again when the answer is always the same. Yours simply happened to be one of the conglomeration as were the 2 I read directly after yours.

Who claimed any of that? You will never find me claiming that. I have had plenty of bad dates in my time. Almost always because of what I just posted. Once I started escalating almost without fail the only reason a second date didn't happen was because I decided I wasn't interested enough.

And escalation is exactly what it sounds like. You seem to want it to mean within 30 seconds I put my hand on their pvssy and rub it. No...it's ESCALATION meaning you go from nothing and move towards that in steps over the course of the date. At each step where you encounter no resistance you wait for a little while and proceed to the next level of escalation.

This is not a hard concept to get I don't know why you and a few other posters have such a difficult time understanding it.

As far me having something against you? Dude, I don't even know who you are and I could care less about some imaginary grudge you think I have. The post was not directed at you per se, your situation just happened to be like 147 out of 150 of the same situation bring posted over the previous month or 6 weeks and I decided something like this needs to be posted(hopefully stickied) so people won't have to read and answer the same post written by 80 different people.

If that's too much for you to handle, then I don't know what to say to you.

 

[john1234]

To Escalate in the first 10mins too desperate?

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Escalation is key. It's one of the things I rarely have any problem with, mainly because I'm a horny fcker and very tactile anyway. But yeah, the few times I haven't escalated physically, it doesn't end the way you want.

It's really simple. Have the courage of your convictions, grab a woman by the waist or bck of the neck, pull her close and kiss her. She'll either go with it, or she won't. It doesn't have to be a drama. Never apologise for it. Never apologise for your own sexuality.

 

[dustmuffin]

To Escalate in the first 10mins too desperate?

Escalation means your hand on her back. You touching her arm or hands. So yes escalate as soon as possible. I usually brush my hand across her thigh in the first 15 min . My hands are touching her everwhere.

After about 30 mins I go in for the mid date kiss. Just look in her eyes and kiss her