If you are 25, almost 26 and still live with your parents and no college degree

[LiveFreeX]

Just date Chinese or Mexican girls. Its normal for them to live with their parents until they are married. Its only in America where 18 is the cut off age, most 3rd world families stay together in one household. Chinese especially live together with their parents and grandparents forever. I know several indian families who live together under one huge roof, everyone pays a little bit towards the house and they all support each other both in business and personal finance. That's the way to be man, not this 'independence' bs.

I may need to go back home and live with my parents due to health reasons. My wife and I will likely shack up in the basement, I don't see anything wrong with this, neither do my folks. They are actually happy to have me and my wife at home... soooo... can you get tail? Yeah but its a specific kind. Its also the best kind.

I have sort of an un-related question for you: Are there 216 Jaegar Pilots on sosuave already?

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Just date Chinese or Mexican girls. Its normal for them to live with their parents until they are married. Its only in America where 18 is the cut off age, most 3rd world families stay together in one household. Chinese especially live together with their parents and grandparents forever. I know several indian families who live together under one huge roof, everyone pays a little bit towards the house and they all support each other both in business and personal finance. That's the way to be man, not this 'independence' bs.

I may need to go back home and live with my parents due to health reasons. My wife and I will likely shack up in the basement, I don't see anything wrong with this, neither do my folks. They are actually happy to have me and my wife at home... soooo... can you get tail? Yeah but its a specific kind. Its also the best kind.

I have sort of an un-related question for you: Are there 216 Jaegar Pilots on sosuave already?

the number 217 is reference to LadiesMan217 from the first live-action Transformers movie from 2007, the eBay username of Sam Witwicky, and Jaeger is name of the Giant Human-Piloted Robots that fight Kaiju, so in essence, yes I am a Nerd, lol!

 

[JaegerPilot217]

So white girls I would struggle with attracting the most in this situation I am in?

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Or are there plenty of white girls in my situation too in which they are not in their career job yet, no college degree and don't mind dating a guy who is the same? I don't solely go for white girls, I'm also very attracted to Hispanic, Persian and Arab, Indian girls, and Black girls as well, Asian being the least but there are some exceptions

 

[JoeMarron]

This means nothing. The cute girl HB8 that works at Tesco's still feels they have the right to guys who are balling purely based on their own looks.

When women say they like ambition in a man what they really mean by that is they like the results of ambition. Big difference.

One of my mates is still living at home and is working in some customer service job at a bank with weak prospects.

He decides to spend any excess money he has on a new car (on finance of course).

Me on the other hand. Working diligently 6 days a week.

Saving money to put a deposit down for a house.

Now guess who gets more tail.

One of the harshest aspects of the red pill was discovering that women don't care one bit about your intentions.

If it isn't in the now then you're worthless to them.

Give that friend good looks and game and I bet he'd pull more than you no problem. The only advantage money gives you is it makes you better husband material. Do you really think a tipsy woman in a club is thinking about the bank account of the charming attractive dude that she's about to go home with? Change the situation to online dating, cold approach, social circle, it doesn't matter because the result will be the same. Women don't care about that sh!t unless they're looking for a husband and even then that wouldn't stop the charming attractive dude from having sex with them.

 

[spiegel549]

I have a bunch of friends that are "bums" or in college, or working odd end jobs that pull a bunch of hot women.

Unless you are dealing with a high maintenance gold digger who expects you to pick her up in a Lamborghini...then you will be fine.

Hit the gym, dress well, practice your approaching game, go!

 

[Jaylan]

If you want to date and bang quality women you need to have your sh!!t together. If you only care if the girl is at least passably cute, then Im sure you can make do as long as you give them some shpeel about working towards better things.

However, the reality is that if you are out of your early 20s, it looks bad for a guy to still be living at home unless hes working full time at a decent-ish job and/or educated. And in the latter cases you would generally need to show you have the intention of saving to move out.

Because the reality is, how much fun can you have with crap retail pay, no privacy since you live at home, and little ambition? Girls will think they will have no ability to have fun with you because of this...or theyll be annoyed at always having to go back to their place (especially if the chicks have roommates). At least if you lived at home and had a better education or job, youd have more loot to go do fun things. Or at least girls would get that impression.

Just telling you what Ive seen. The guys I know pulling quality women and who lived or are still living out home in their mid/late 20s, are guys with education and a decent job. They have that discretionary income to actually be able to date, since dating costs money even on the cheap. Plus girls do dig what it says about a guy to have his crap together even if hes at home. I do know guys whove still dated while living at home with less education and lesser job titles, but they arent dating the caliber of women compared to the other dudes I mentioned.

Take that for what it is. As others said, style and having your body in good shape helps a lot, but consider the options decent looking girls usually have. Youre behind the 8 ball, because plenty of guys who dress well and go to the gym are educated and/or have decent jobs.

Make a plan for yourself and get to it. I definitely noticed the difference in responses I got from women when I was in college working crappy part time jobs compared to when I was post college trying to find my first legit full time gig. While youre young and in school, it doesnt matter because the girls understand that youre in the same place they are. They know its a grind and college is about fun anyways. After college the girls may be a bit lenient for a little while, considering how hard it can be to find jobs right now. But as time moves forward, if you dont have something lined up, you do start to look like a less than decent prospect, especially if her options are guys who are already set up well.

Not to mention the fact that I had to take a dating hiatus myself before finding my first legit full time gig because I couldnt afford dating. I by no means spend a lot of cash on women...but even just paying for myself got expensive when all I had was a crap job. In between bills, having money for the extra gas, eating out, beer, covers for bars/clubs/events, it just gets expensive. (even on the cheap)

I know for myself that a girl whos got her crap together is more appealing than a girl who doesnt. Because the girl without her crap together has me thinking Im gonna be footing her bill. Girls worry about the same damn thing...and even more so because many expect a guy to pay for most things.

So take all this for what it is man. Good luck.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I have a bunch of friends that are "bums" or in college, or working odd end jobs that pull a bunch of hot women.

Unless you are dealing with a high maintenance gold digger who expects you to pick her up in a Lamborghini...then you will be fine.

Hit the gym, dress well, practice your approaching game, go!

What are the ages of these guys? Also sometimes I'm thinking I should lie about my age, wondering if that is a good idea or not, so I could get a free pass for not having my **** together yet, but I have been hitting the gym and ended up losing over 40 pounds, used to weigh 215 now I weigh 170lbs, and went from a waist 40 to a waist 34

 

[AAAgent]

and currently working a retail job, at a grocery store to be more specific, are your options going to be very limited with women? I do have a car though but I still live with my parents, am I screwed when it comes to getting a girlfriend? and I will be honest, I do want a girlfriend, but I am not interested in settling down anytime soon, I just want to date around but not a serious girlfriend with wife potential, just a girlfriend. Any guys you know of that still manage to successfully pull girls while being in this age range despite still living at home, no college degree and working a minimum-wage job? Now don't get me wrong, I don't plan on living with my parents for the rest of my life and I obviously don't plan on working in a grocery store, minimum-wage job for the rest of my life, it's just for a while I never knew what I wanted to do, and still kinda unsure but leaning towards either graphic design or veterinary sciences, yes I know they are complete different stretches, just working this type of job to have some sort of income at the moment, so what do you think?

@OP

Instead of asking about whether or not girls would be interested in a guy who lives with his parents with no education, no degree, and no career in sight you should be asking yourself.... Why??

Why don't you have an education, money in the bank, or no clear career goal?

If you don't know where you're going, why would anyone or girl want to be your girlfriend and follow you. Even if you don't have plans to be a millionaire or celebrity, you'll still need the means to support yourself and your family eventually and a steady well paying job is just a bare minimum. Before i ask a question targeted to a particular individual or group, i put myself in the recipients shoes.

If i was a girl, would i really want to be with a guy who lives with his parents and with no education or career direction. This is probably a person who will meet my friends, possibly my family, etc. I'd most definitely say no. Even if you were the greatest guy in the world, i can only see a girl staying with a guy with those characteristics for a period (most likely short) of time. I'm not coming at you bro, just stating the truth. Also, it's certainly possible to get a girl in any given situation but it most likely isn't the type of girl your ideally looking for. If you worked on remedying any one of the below things you mentioned, you would increase you chances of finding a girl 10x.

college degree
Steady job that you can survive on your own off of
Clear career path and working towards it

Heck, if you work on all three and hustle (it's never too late) you'll not only be successful in 10 years but your work ethic and perseverance will also attract women (even higher quality women).
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So honestly, you're asking the wrong question. You should be asking how do i get an education, move out of my parents house and get a steady paying job that aligns with my career aspirations or positions me to succeed once i determine what my career aspirations are.


AAA

 

[skinnyguy]

If I were a girl, I would want a guy who was good looking, had money, and had status.

So, you should put yourself in the girl's shoes. Would you want to date someone like yourself? Probably not. So go out and get an education. I might be ugly but I am supremely educated and that is one thing I'm really proud of.

My only advice to you now would be to lie about your background. If you meet a girl at a club, tell her you're a lawyer (most girls fall for it cause it's what they want to hear). Go out on a few dates after that.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

if I was college educated and had a career job I could care less if a girl had a college education and had a career or not

 

[Jaylan]

if I was college educated and had a career job I could care less if a girl had a college education and had a career or not

You say that now only because of the position you are in.

Fact of the matter is that men and women tend to date people on their level. Almost all of my college educated male friends desire women who are educated and independent (ie make their own money). This doesnt mean a girl needs a fancy career path, but she does need a job to show she isnt gonna be draining a dude of his money.

Plus, personally for me, I have more in common with chicks whove been to school and understand the value in getting ones life on track. And this usually means getting a degree so you can get a job and move forward in life. A degree isnt mandatory for many decent jobs, but plenty do require them.

Get on that OP.

 

[Mr_Stinky]

A girl I was once friends with dated a guy who was known to eat popcorn off the movie theater floor and roll around on the ground in establishments. He rolled several times in her presence.

:cheer:

LOL'd at the bolded

 

[JaegerPilot217]

@OP

Instead of asking about whether or not girls would be interested in a guy who lives with his parents with no education, no degree, and no career in sight you should be asking yourself.... Why??

Why don't you have an education, money in the bank, or no clear career goal?

If you don't know where you're going, why would anyone or girl want to be your girlfriend and follow you. Even if you don't have plans to be a millionaire or celebrity, you'll still need the means to support yourself and your family eventually and a steady well paying job is just a bare minimum. Before i ask a question targeted to a particular individual or group, i put myself in the recipients shoes.

If i was a girl, would i really want to be with a guy who lives with his parents and with no education or career direction. This is probably a person who will meet my friends, possibly my family, etc. I'd most definitely say no. Even if you were the greatest guy in the world, i can only see a girl staying with a guy with those characteristics for a period (most likely short) of time. I'm not coming at you bro, just stating the truth. Also, it's certainly possible to get a girl in any given situation but it most likely isn't the type of girl your ideally looking for. If you worked on remedying any one of the below things you mentioned, you would increase you chances of finding a girl 10x.

college degree
Steady job that you can survive on your own off of
Clear career path and working towards it

Heck, if you work on all three and hustle (it's never too late) you'll not only be successful in 10 years but your work ethic and perseverance will also attract women (even higher quality women).
-----

So honestly, you're asking the wrong question. You should be asking how do i get an education, move out of my parents house and get a steady paying job that aligns with my career aspirations or positions me to succeed once i determine what my career aspirations are.


AAA

Reading this post makes me filled with regret for not knowing what I wanted to do earlier, not knowing my career goals earlier and not taking it seriously as much earlier, but obviously I know and am aware that I can't change the past and it doesn't help at all to dwell on the past, and you say it is never too late, honestly it pisses me off when people say that because this may shock most of you for what i'm about to say now, but it's because when i'm much older, I find it scary, gross and disgusting that i'm still gonna be attracted to women in their early 20's, or just women in their 20's and late teens while i'm like more than 10 years older than her, or even 15 to 20 years older, for me I've always preferred close age differences, for me the limit so far is 5 or 6 years age difference, who knows I can't predict the future, as for what Jaylan said about admiring being attractive to independent women that make their own money and have a decent okay career that way they won't be draining a dude of his money, they can financially contribute, that is understandable.

I kinda take a little bit back on what I said, but the reason why an independent woman and is in her career doesn't matter to me is because i'm not looking for a woman that is wife material, just a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship only, I don't want to settle down and get married anytime soon, if I wanted to settle down and get married then yes wanting that in a woman I would prefer, but since I don't want to get married or settle down anytime soon, I don't care if a woman is independent, has a career, is college educated or not.

 

[AAAgent]

Reading this post makes me filled with regret for not knowing what I wanted to do earlier, not knowing my career goals earlier and not taking it seriously as much earlier, but obviously I know and am aware that I can't change the past and it doesn't help at all to dwell on the past, and you say it is never too late, honestly it pisses me off when people say that because this may shock most of you for what i'm about to say now, but it's because when i'm much older, I find it scary, gross and disgusting that i'm still gonna be attracted to women in their early 20's, or just women in their 20's and late teens while i'm like more than 10 years older than her, or even 15 to 20 years older, for me I've always preferred close age differences, for me the limit so far is 5 or 6 years age difference, who knows I can't predict the future, as for what Jaylan said about admiring being attractive to independent women that make their own money and have a decent okay career that way they won't be draining a dude of his money, they can financially contribute, that is understandable.

I kinda take a little bit back on what I said, but the reason why an independent woman and is in her career doesn't matter to me is because i'm not looking for a woman that is wife material, just a boyfriend/girlfriend relationship only, I don't want to settle down and get married anytime soon, if I wanted to settle down and get married then yes wanting that in a woman I would prefer, but since I don't want to get married or settle down anytime soon, I don't care if a woman is independent, has a career, is college educated or not.

Regret doesn't do you any good if you continue to dwell on it. Take your regret and come to an understanding with it, then work changing yourself for the better. I "started from the bottom now we're here.". I had straight D's through elementary -> highschool. I got suspended a minimum of once a year up to 5+ times a year. I've been suspended from school probably around 60-90 days and expelled once. I hustled my last 2 years and got mediocre grades and got lucky applying to a college that had a new nursing program and were taking any students. Once i got in i transferred over to the business school and graduated with horrible GPA because i never studient the first 13 years of my life and had no foundation in which i could build this new information on.

I read a bit in college (read 1 full book in highschool and guessed on all my tests) and tried very hard to study and barely finished college with a meager 2.28 GPA. That was attending almost every class and sitting in the front. Not partying and trying to study and comprehend the class material (did not happen). I read more books and asked people for help reluctantly and somehow managed to pass all my required classes. Once i graduated i spent the next 4 years reading MANY more books, financial forums, studying, staying late at work to study more and go above and beyond, etc. I did anything i could to better myself, my knowledge, my body, all in order to better my life overall. It might not sound like much but to my friends who knew me before, they're amazed at where i'm at now. I make the most out of my closest friends, 70kish (not alot but enough to live comfortably on my own). I have my own place, have moved out, have money in the bank, have been promoted, and now i'm starting my own business which has the potential to make millions.

I could have gave up when no one was willing to help but i didn't. No one hits gold on their first try. Great fisherman have to start from the bottom and learn how to cast nets, reel in the fish, map out good locations, remember which fish are around which areas, but eventually when all the stars line up. They apply everything they've learned to reel in the big catch. It takes alot of hard work and dedication to become successful and more importantly, achieve your goals. When i started, i knew i would be WAY behind everyone else i was competing against so i prepared myself mentally for that and worked harder than the majority.

My 2cents:
If you want something bad enough, you'll develop the means to get it.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

Regret doesn't do you any good if you continue to dwell on it. Take your regret and come to an understanding with it, then work changing yourself for the better. I "started from the bottom now we're here.". I had straight D's through elementary -> highschool. I got suspended a minimum of once a year up to 5+ times a year. I've been suspended from school probably around 60-90 days and expelled once. I hustled my last 2 years and got mediocre grades and got lucky applying to a college that had a new nursing program and were taking any students. Once i got in i transferred over to the business school and graduated with horrible GPA because i never studient the first 13 years of my life and had no foundation in which i could build this new information on.

I read a bit in college (read 1 full book in highschool and guessed on all my tests) and tried very hard to study and barely finished college with a meager 2.28 GPA. That was attending almost every class and sitting in the front. Not partying and trying to study and comprehend the class material (did not happen). I read more books and asked people for help reluctantly and somehow managed to pass all my required classes. Once i graduated i spent the next 4 years reading MANY more books, financial forums, studying, staying late at work to study more and go above and beyond, etc. I did anything i could to better myself, my knowledge, my body, all in order to better my life overall. It might not sound like much but to my friends who knew me before, they're amazed at where i'm at now. I make the most out of my closest friends, 70kish (not alot but enough to live comfortably on my own). I have my own place, have moved out, have money in the bank, have been promoted, and now i'm starting my own business which has the potential to make millions.

I could have gave up when no one was willing to help but i didn't. No one hits gold on their first try. Great fisherman have to start from the bottom and learn how to cast nets, reel in the fish, map out good locations, remember which fish are around which areas, but eventually when all the stars line up. They apply everything they've learned to reel in the big catch. It takes alot of hard work and dedication to become successful and more importantly, achieve your goals. When i started, i knew i would be WAY behind everyone else i was competing against so i prepared myself mentally for that and worked harder than the majority.

My 2cents:
If you want something bad enough, you'll develop the means to get it.

yeah which is why I said, I don't want to dwell on it, but the only thing that depresses me is I will be old by the time I get this out of the way, i'm not getting any younger and neither are women, should have read all of what I last said

 

[AAAgent]

I read what you wrote but nowhere in your comment did you mention how or what you were doing to change your situation and then you went on to complain how you're getting older and you won't be able to date girls in their teens or early 20's anymore.

I don't see how your focus is still on chasing tail when you have all those other things going on in your life that need your attention more.

 

[JaegerPilot217]

I read what you wrote but nowhere in your comment did you mention how or what you were doing to change your situation and then you went on to complain how you're getting older and you won't be able to date girls in their teens or early 20's anymore.

I don't see how your focus is still on chasing tail when you have all those other things going on in your life that need your attention more.

well okay, next semester i'm going back to school and just pick a major even if it is not sure on what I want to do, just to do something with my damn life, which i'm sure is better than just wandering through life confused and not making anything happen, but the fact i'm getting older will still depress me

 

[MM92]

I'm in the same position but 20, nearly 21. I feel ****ty that next year I'll be starting my degree when I should have originally have just finished it. But I made some bad mistakes and had 2 rough years which left me feeling like there was no hope and I'd never get back on track.

Take how you're feeling now and use that feeling to drive you on to succeed in all your life goals. Visualise how you want your life to be and who you want to be, set goals and work to achieve them. If **** gets hard just stop and realise how far you've come.

If I can do this then so will you. You'll look back in 5 years time and see it was so much worth it, and you would have earned that big smile on your face.

 

[Jaylan]

I'm in the same position but 20, nearly 21. I feel ****ty that next year I'll be starting my degree when I should have originally have just finished it. But I made some bad mistakes and had 2 rough years which left me feeling like there was no hope and I'd never get back on track.

Take how you're feeling now and use that feeling to drive you on to succeed in all your life goals. Visualise how you want your life to be and who you want to be, set goals and work to achieve them. If **** gets hard just stop and realise how far you've come.

If I can do this then so will you. You'll look back in 5 years time and see it was so much worth it, and you would have earned that big smile on your face.

Listen to this OP. GO GET YOUR DEGREE. Dont lament not having it. If you want one, go get it.

I started college later than my high school peers. I was in college from 20 to 24. Trust me, its so satisfying to finally get those degrees man. Mind you Im not starting as late as you are, and this I was still able to party and date with people in that younger 18 to 25 age bracket, but there were times I felt weird about being a few years older than my classmates. You get over it.

Go to school, network and make friends with older students (grad especially), and just make a 5 year plan dude. Itll make everything better for you to just have a plan.