If the topic of, say, politics or religion comes up

[The_Reaper]

How do you deal with that?

I'm talking about when you're chatting to a chick or on a date with her (and she brings it up), or even starting a relationship with her.

I enjoy talking about these topics, but I'm well aware that they are contentious issues and no-nos when it comes to first-date conversation.

Currently, I'm sort of casually seeing a girl, and it's pretty obvious from her personality (and facebook page!) that she's very liberal. I'm pretty liberal too, but she's veering into socialism, which I'm against.

I'm not sure whether to indulge my pleasure in discussing politics and such (which will involve arguing against many of her beliefs), or to just make some brief comments and switch the topic.

 

[user43770]

Liberal girls are the most fun, I'll give them that. As for arguing politics with her: don't. It's a no-win situation.

 

[scrouds]

Discussing politics is win win. Nothing like a little heated debate to get the juices flowing.

 

[user43770]

Nothing like a little heated debate to get the juices flowing.

That's what foreplay is for. Arguing politics with a socialist would make me want to kick the b1tch out...after I banged her, of course.

 

[13stepscfh]

avoid it if you can. if you can't, don' back down from your beliefs

 

[scrouds]

Socialism is giving each of your plates the same amount of jizz, irrespective of how hot they are.

 

[The_Reaper]

It's a no-win situation.

Discussing politics is win win.

Ffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

 

[premierxxx]

Ask them, if you take away your politics, your religion, everything you learned in your life, everything that people use to describe you in society, what do you get? Then move up close and say that's YOU I'm dating.


I once dated a Ron Paul chick, Ron Paul is constitutionalist, against big government, against our pro Israel foreign policy, against wars, etc.. Basically like Harry Truman or Thomas Jefferson. I'm big fan myself but come on, the subject is dirty because all politics no matter what sect, be socialist, communist, democratic, or whatever, it's all dirty. You suppose to get to know the chick on a date, not argue how the world is going to hell and how Ron Paul can restore the republic, so I told her above. The mood of the whole date shifted, we kissed, held hands, and had a marvelous night, and oh yes, lots and lots of sex.

Date is date guys, by no means avoid politics or religion talk, just move past it, redirect it and make it about the real her instead.

 

[starfishandcoffee]

Very interesting post, and convenient too since I've got a coffee 'date' next week with a socialist girl.

I'd disagree, but don't start a tooth-and-nail debate, obviously. I'd keep that part of the chat serious, too, unless you're a master at this stuff...keep in mind that when you're doing the whole "I disagree with you, but I still think you're cute" thing it's very easy to come across as a condescending ass. That will NOT get her into bed with you...well, usually.

If things get too hairy, do what premier said (btw man, nice line)

 

[The_Reaper]

Ask them, if you take away your politics, your religion, everything you learned in your life, everything that people use to describe you in society, what do you get? Then move up close and say that's YOU I'm dating.

If I was a girl, my vagina would be tingling right now

 

[KontrollerX]

If you're dealing with a true believer in Islam or Christianity its time to eject as you won't be getting any pvssy unless you slip the ring on the b!tch's finger which clued in men will not do.

If however you are dealing with some chick that claims she's religious or spiritual but you can tell that supposed belief of her's is all just a crock of sh!t in that she doesn't really believe in it or deeply believe in it and is moreso passively involved in it as a means of feeling like she belongs then go ahead and continue on with her if you like, you'll get pvssy since she doesn't really believe or follow her religion of choices rules and if she was one of those repressed cases that used to be a hardcore believer but is now a wishy washy passive one you'll have a sexual freak on your hands that will put the sexual skills of the best pornstars to shame. Eject from these type of relationships the minute the b!tch randomly decides she wants to be a born again virgin (no such thing!) and demands that you marry her before she'll let you hit it again.

Also if you are one of those guys that likes hassles and wants to have kids some day since you don't believe the world has enough humans in it already (even though the planet is rapidly becoming overpopulated) do not I repeat do not have children with either a wishy washy religious believer or a hardcore religious believer as their unstable/fictional worldviews will fvck your children up royally and if you object to religious indoctrination training you will have an epic war on your hands with your baby momma.

Not to mention the obvious that a wishy washy religious believer can randomly decide to become hardcore with their faith again or for the first time at ANYTIME during your relationship as we humans tend to be quite random in our actions.

Then you'll have to deal with endless proselytizing telling you to accept one diety or another to avoid the supposed loving deity's eternal torture chamber.

You will have to deal with this because your misguided mate thinks she is doing it out of love but all you will recognize it as is an epic annoyance that will serve to erode your relationship as the reality minded and the religious minded's views will never coincide.

Some guys will tell you atheist/religious pairings can work and they are right sometimes rare things like that can happen, for example someone can survive falling from a 47 story skyscraper but that doesn't mean the rest of us should go around falling off of 47 story skyscraper's because it worked out ok for that one guy.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22502580/

So yeah my ultimate view is if you have the opposite worldview of some chick DO NOT persue a serious long term relationship with that person.

They are to be a fling and a fvck buddy only.

Don't go around having kids with someone like that.

It will fvck your entire life up the majority of the time as well the kid's.

And no don't talk about politics with a woman either unless she brings it up and her views coincide with your own or she doesn't much care about it in general but brings up something about it she wants to ask you a question on.

 

[The_Reaper]

Absolutely excellent post, KontrollerX. I agree 100%

 

[Captain]

Serious discussions about politics or religion on a date are a no-no. Logic doesn't turn women on, emotion does.

 

[I.A.F.Y.B.]

I tend to stay away from those issues. Unless, we have the same views on the topic. Or else it may turn into an argument.