if she's not married, she's single

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kevin samuels often said this. never looked at it that way but hard to ignore ever since. given the state of modern women, really stirs the pot. what say you?
 
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Disagree. Plenty of women with boyfriends who are not married will reject approaches. I do all of my approaching in areas with high concentrations of unmarried people. This doesn't mean a whole lot because many of these unmarried women have boyfriends.

In my experience, women who are not seeking new penis (generally satisfied with their boyfriends) will not be receptive to approaches. They will use tactics to reduce the number of approaches they field, usually through earbuds and bad body languages. Some women with boyfriends can be opened, but they won't be good conversational partners and the interaction will fade without a date being offered.

There are some occasions where a conversation with a woman with a boyfriend will be pleasant enough that a man will offer a date. She will then mention her boyfriend, or if she's Gen Z, she'll be more likely to mention she has a "partner" instead of using the word "boyfriend". At this point, in most cases, I would recommend using a "boyfriend destroyer line" on her. It might work and she might question her boyfriend's value. I've never had a "boyfriend destroyer line" get me a date agreement after being IHAB'ed.
 

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At this point, in most cases, I would recommend using a "boyfriend destroyer line" on her. It might work and she might question her boyfriend's value. I've never had a "boyfriend destroyer line" get me a date agreement after being IHAB'ed.
never considered a bf destroyer line. will have to field some suggestions. as for the plenty of unmarried women having boyfriends, this is the modern state of women referred to. it used to be very unusual for women to date multiple years without marriage. the entire situation seems very curious, bordering on precarious
 

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Almost all of my sisters, cousins, and their friends explicitly told me “We’re single until the day of the wedding.” & those r first gen conservative Muslims. However, they ones who were legit head over heels for the guy were moving like they were married even before the LTR was official.
The overwhelming majority of the dudes are marrying women who don’t even like them like that. Then they blame the woman smh.
 
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Disagree. Plenty of women with boyfriends who are not married will reject approaches. I do all of my approaching in areas with high concentrations of unmarried people. This doesn't mean a whole lot because many of these unmarried women have boyfriends.

In my experience, women who are not seeking new penis (generally satisfied with their boyfriends) will not be receptive to approaches. They will use tactics to reduce the number of approaches they field, usually through earbuds and bad body languages. Some women with boyfriends can be opened, but they won't be good conversational partners and the interaction will fade without a date being offered.

There are some occasions where a conversation with a woman with a boyfriend will be pleasant enough that a man will offer a date. She will then mention her boyfriend, or if she's Gen Z, she'll be more likely to mention she has a "partner" instead of using the word "boyfriend". At this point, in most cases, I would recommend using a "boyfriend destroyer line" on her. It might work and she might question her boyfriend's value. I've never had a "boyfriend destroyer line" get me a date agreement after being IHAB'ed.
No everything is about sex dude. Women who r 25+ won’t simply drop their LTR 6 months before the planned wedding night & run off with some PUA for a ONS. Unless she already checked out. Or a serial cheater. However, many of them will suddenly become available(while still leading their current BF on, in case the BBD guy is not available/serious ) if they find a bigger better deal. Aka a last minute(married women can still 100% pull that ****) monkey branching.
 
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It's simplistic, but he might've been trying to allude to the point that they're fair game. If she's single, shoot your shot, and whatever happens, happens. If she's Married/LTR, hypergamy is still at play, so if you can somehow give her the impression of being better than her current boyfriend/husband, she'll consider you at the very least. If the guy is on top of his game with his Girlfriend/Wife, you'll probably be invisible to her. In that case it would be a waste of time.

Basically, I agree with it in theory, and I would take it a step further and say with the modern state of women, they reserve the right to change their minds at any given time (divorce). If she isn't in a relationship (single), or thinks she can do better (hypergamous doubt), she's fair game IMO.
 

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Ever heard the phrase rings dont plug holes? Meaning married girls still cheat. I've never had a girlfriend cheat on me but I had a former wife cheat. Had many more girlfriends than wives.

Your theory doesnt hold water for me.

Truth is a woman will only cheat if you arent fulfilling your role.
 

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Almost all of my sisters, cousins, and their friends explicitly told me “We’re single until the day of the wedding.” & those r first gen conservative Muslims. However, they ones who were legit head over heels for the guy were moving like they were married even before the LTR was official.
The overwhelming majority of the dudes are marrying women who don’t even like them like that. Then they blame the woman smh.
hence this thread
 

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It doesn't matter if she's single, in a relationship, or married - if she wants to, she will give her pu$$y to any guy she wants to
way to end the fun, thread closed
 

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Yup. Even heard women say that its aint cheating if she aint married. An AFC's biggest nightmare is the knowledge that there are men out there who either dgaf about bf statuses, or even makes it a fetish to hit on married /occupied women. Especially when such a man knows that attraction fades and thus there's a fair change that a married women is sexless.

A bluepiller will conclude a occupied woman is a no go and leave it like that. A player as I said might actually use her relationship as a hook to hold on to. From that POV a "single" woman might be more challenging because single = maybe 5 different men orbiting her at once.

Again, we individually choose what adagium we'll follow. Same with men who "progress "the relationship to living together only to learn "she's a different person now".

Women are extremely simple creatures. So simple that it messes with everything our grandparents build up. Women follow their feelings, and those include what she feels in her p00sy.
 

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something about that spelling "p00sy" really hits home. gawd it's lovely
Haha I've created my own way of speaking English and the forum helps greatly to improve my grammar and overall vocabulary. I speak what I'd call" western European English ".
 

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Disagree. Plenty of women with boyfriends who are not married will reject approaches. I do all of my approaching in areas with high concentrations of unmarried people. This doesn't mean a whole lot because many of these unmarried women have boyfriends.

In my experience, women who are not seeking new penis (generally satisfied with their boyfriends) will not be receptive to approaches. They will use tactics to reduce the number of approaches they field, usually through earbuds and bad body languages. Some women with boyfriends can be opened, but they won't be good conversational partners and the interaction will fade without a date being offered.

There are some occasions where a conversation with a woman with a boyfriend will be pleasant enough that a man will offer a date. She will then mention her boyfriend, or if she's Gen Z, she'll be more likely to mention she has a "partner" instead of using the word "boyfriend". At this point, in most cases, I would recommend using a "boyfriend destroyer line" on her. It might work and she might question her boyfriend's value. I've never had a "boyfriend destroyer line" get me a date agreement after being IHAB'ed.
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