If one way doesn't work, do the opposite.

[Special T]

So you all know that I live by IOIs. I try to make eye contact with a girl and give a smile, but it seems like 99% of females run way from me. Not literally...but they make sure not to look my way and sometimes I get a cold vibe from them even if they don't say anything. You know how somebody can walk into a room and you just get the "don't approach me" feeling... that's what I get from girls. Sometimes it feels like females try their best to ward off all men. Or maybe they just want to ward off me.

Well, since it's a good idea to do the total opposite, I'm not going to look or chat with a girl until she earns it. I've gone home many times feeling depressed because I tried to have an open and friendly vibe and no one accepts it.

It's like if you don't pay attention to females, they respond to you better.

 

[HeyPachuco!]

So you all know that I live by IOIs.

Well, since it's a good idea to do the total opposite, I'm not going to look or chat with a girl until she earns it.

Then you're forever doomed.

You're punching way above you're weight, I dont know why you think ALL girls must give you ioi's. If your going to WAIT for ONE girl to give you ioi's to make you approach, then you might aswell say you're afc and waiting for the/ THAT ONE.

 

[Special T]

Then you're forever doomed.

You're punching way above you're weight, I dont know why you think ALL girls must give you ioi's. If your going to WAIT for ONE girl to give you ioi's to make you approach, then you might aswell say you're afc and waiting for the/ THAT ONE.

It just feels wrong to approach without an invitation to approach.

 

[horaholic]

You got a pretty ass backwards outlook, thats gonna get you nowhere. If you walk into a room, and you're getting a cold vibe from everyone, then first of all, you are projecting a negative demeaner. Thats the first thing you should improve.

Second of all, who cares if you get a cold vibe? Once you've broken the ice, its fine. They wont give a cold vibe once they get to know you.

You dont need to 'do' the opposite, you need to 'act' the opposite, as in worrying about their initial vibe. Quite caring about their cold vibe, and warm up to them first. Its virtually impossible to not like someone who smiles and likes you genuinely,with certain exceptions like being creepy, or whatever.

Do the opposite by walking into a room smiling at everyone, and talking to them whether you think they want you to or not.

It just feels wrong to approach without an invitation to approach

Is it wrong when people do it to you?
Think the opposite of that, and you'll be fine.

 

[Igetit!]

Then you're forever doomed.

+1 rep.

I dont know why you think ALL girls must give you ioi's. If your going to WAIT for ONE girl to give you ioi's to make you approach, then you might aswell say you're afc and waiting for the/ THAT ONE.

Exactly.

I told him this in one of his other threads.


Women DO NOT have to approach. They just don't. Even ugly women have guys after them.


It's our job to be agressive and pursue.


You keep waiting for girls to come after you,but it ain't gonna happen. Even if they do give you IOIs,you still have to go up TO THEM and make things happen.


You're trying to take the passive role. It doesn't work. I know it doesn't work,because I've tried it before. You'll just end up alone,waiting for something to happen.



You better quit waiting for girls to make things easy for you,or you'll look up and notice 5 years has passed by while you were waiting on girls to approach you.

 

[Special T]

+1 rep.

Exactly.

I told him this in one of his other threads.


Women DO NOT have to approach. They just don't. Even ugly women have guys after them.


It's our job to be agressive and pursue.


You keep waiting for girls to come after you,but it ain't gonna happen. Even if they do give you IOIs,you still have to go up TO THEM and make things happen.


You're trying to take the passive role. It doesn't work. I know it doesn't work,because I've tried it before. You'll just end up alone,waiting for something to happen.



You better quit waiting for girls to make things easy for you,or you'll look up and notice 5 years has passed by while you were waiting on girls to approach you.

I don't want to take the passive role, but quite a few "gurus" teach you should wait for signals. As you know, I mostly like white girls (but I've been with girls of all races), but not all white girls like black guys. It would be a waste of time for me to approach them. I don't want to sound racist because I'm far from it... but some white girls have that look like if I approached them, they would make a big stink about a black guy approaching them. I don't mind a girl saying 'not interested', but I fear being laughed at or insulted.

 

[horaholic]

No guru tells you to wait for signals. They tell you to go out and get rejected a thousand times so you know it doesnt hurt. Thats the key to this game. Facing your fear of rejections, and approaching anyway. Think about WHY you fear being laughed at or insulted. Its an irrational fear. Step outside your ego. The top dawgs of the community get rejected as much as the rest of us. The push on, because it really doesnt hurt to be rejected, but we fear it anyway.

It doesnt hurt. just go out and try it. Go say hi to twenty strange women. they dont bite, and are almost always polite. You need to realize that you arent doing anything wrong, first of all. You are introducing yourself to someone. Who cares? There's nothing wrong with doing that. Do you get mad when a rendom person starts talking to you? Even those times when you are kind of annoyed that they are talking to you, how many times have you ended up liking that person? Unless you are a total douchebag, they will eventually like you. You might need to let them set off a bytch bomb or two, but its not so bad. You're a cool guy, right? They will see it eventually.

 

[thegoodstuff]

The only time you can wait for an invitation before taking action is if you're having sex with your right hand.

Otherwise, you need to be pushing that girl. Reading this will most likely open your eyes: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=16267

And I've also read somewhere here, but I can't remember, that REGRET HURTS WORSE THAN REJECTION (true). So right it on your hand and go out there and be like Tiger Woods.

 

[nismo-4]

From a brotha to a brotha, listen to Igetit! and horaholic.

Stop waiting for IOI's Not all women give them anyway. Even when you get them you still gotta make a goddamn move! Read my sig and understand it.