If I'm high value.. Why should i?

[cola]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

 

[E.T.]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

Great post.

At least you aren't tripping over yourself for external validation like the abundance mentality crew.

They'll have you believe they aren't tripping over themselves to get some sort of self worth based off others but instead by just believing others flock to them from out of the blue.

 

[Glassguy]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

You will be surprised at how many chicks will hit you up when you truly have the don't give a sh!t about women attitude.

Taking a break from actively pursuing can do wonders.

 

[youngprodigy]

Been going through the same thing lately. Worst part is that girls are taught to let their interest be known through subliminal measures but to never chase after you. I'm at the point where if I'm out at a social event I'll approach and game girls but after that night I don't try to keep in touch at all. Every here and then you'll come across girls that make the effort

 

[E.T.]

You will be surprised at how many chicks will hit you up when you truly have the don't give a sh!t about women attitude.

Taking a break from actively pursuing can do wonders.

Yes. And when you don't care about becoming a doctor you get handed a PhD.

And when you don't care about your credit score you get the best rating.

And when you don't care about getting hired you get job offers left and right.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

It's the way of the world. Women sit with open/sexual body language to transmit to us that they're open to us. We initiate. This is how sexual relationships began in primal days. The man has to initiate. The woman just needs to show availability and openness.

I get what you're saying though. I feel like I should be getting much hotter girls or at least have girls be a lot more friendly to me (don't get me wrong, some of them actually are and are Supreme b!tches to other guys, but then there's some that just have their noses in the air). I have an amazing body especially compared to everyone around here; broad shoulders with an extreme v-taper, 6-pack with an Adonis belt without even flexing, high cheekbones and a decent jawline which make my face look pretty chiseled, 7.00% bodyfat via hydrostatic weighing 10 days ago and that probably dropped down close to 6%, and I'm just shy of 6 ft. I dress well but not over the top nor do I spend a whole lot on my hair, so you can tell that I don't focus on my looks. I'm aware of my own body language so I don't ever slouch and always stand up tall, I have a relatively deeper voice than most and it carries. Premed student with a 3.6 GPA last semester (which quite frankly isn't that good for men school but better than the average person). Social person too (no anxiety or anything, I don't mind walking up in front of the whole class when there's 300+ students to be the first one to answer a question the professor has, I can make small talk pretty well, and a few small social circles/several friends). I should be drowning in ***** right now but I'm not lol

I dare anyone in the world to find me my female equivalent, both physically (but in feminine way like hourglass figure, fat in all the right places and skinny in all the others, etc.) and mentally (still smart, has good character despite having a crap ton of options, etc.). But a woman like this likely is married to some politician or prince or someone who's heights are unrealistic for me to reach.
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Fact is though, I know my value and what I'm worth to society, and you do too. But we have to put in so much more work into life than we get in return. It's not us, it's the system. There's no way that anyone could say that we are progressing socially when a guy like Toger Woods was struggling so badly that he had to hire prostitutes. I rarely ever blame something outside of myself. In fact, you can even look back in posts. When I believe I'm proven wrong, I will concede and admit that I was wrong; I am not afraid to admit fault. But the thing is, there is DEFINITELY something wrong with the world we live in today. It is what it is.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Yes. And when you don't care about becoming a doctor you get handed a PhD.

And when you don't care about your credit score you get the best rating.

And when you don't care about getting hired you get job offers left and right.

You ignoramus, this only applies to social situations. Not collegiate or financial.

 

[E.T.]

You ignoramus, this only applies to social situations. Not collegiate or financial.

Yes. Simply don't care and the piss in a bottle call of duty playing shut in will be beating off 9s and 10s at his door with a stick.

 

[ImTheDoubleGreatest!]

Yes. Simply don't care and you'll be beating off 9s and 10s with a stick.

That doesn't happen. The whole point of that mentality is to get rid of supplication. That's it. No more trying to get others to like you, try and get yourself to like you. Then others will want to be around you because they see that you are going places. It's just a noticeable difference. It doesn't mean the change is so drastic that you'll never want to go back.

 

[marmel75]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

Working as a bouncer and having women see you ALPHA male the hell out of their b!tch ass boyfriends or other dudes at the club is a HUGE turn-on for them.
You really SHOULDN'T have to do any work...they will be approaching you.

 

[marmel75]

will be beating off 9s and 10s at his door with a stick.

Too bad we can't do the same to you...

 

[cola]

E.t. & ITDG! You are both right..

Not caring only works if you are hot..
If you are ugly with sh*tty body language they won't care that you don't care..

 

[TheMonkeyKing]

Approaching for the sake of approaching or getting laid is very different to approaching because you see something you particularly like.

As ballsy as modern women pretend to be, they still don't have the balls to actually approach. As IDTG said, it's an evolutionary thing. They'll promote equality, but only within the sphere of their collective comfort zones.

I don't approach because I need to get laid. I've had sex with women before; lots of women. I don't go out with the objective of, 'I must make 10 approaches'. I go out intending to socialise, and when something particularly shiny catches my eye, then the hunt is on. I can't remember who has the quote in their signature, but as the saying goes, 'The prey of the viper doesn't know it's being hunted until it's far too late'.

We can flip the script; rather than viewing the approach as a chore, it's just part of the great game. A challenge. IOI's are important; otherwise you might just be viewed a thirsty letch. Though recently I have been taking a certain amount of pleasure in completely ignoring women who, viewed at a distance, definitely want my attention. I can see instantly, by their appearance and how they look at me, whether or not they are worth my time. Most, it must be said, are not.

You're clearly a high achiever, under your own volition. Attaining the women you want in should still be of your own choosing. Even when a girl does approach you, you still have to decide if she's staying or going. Indifference and abundance, for me, aren't about arrogance, rather the personal security of genuine self worth and real options.

Would say, don't forgo a decent opportunity for the sake of your own pride.

 

[Trump]

I don't approach because I need to get laid. I've had sex with women before; lots of women. I don't go out with the objective of, 'I must make 10 approaches'. I go out intending to socialise, and when something particularly shiny catches my eye, then the hunt is on. I can't remember who has the quote in their signature, but as the saying goes, 'The prey of the viper doesn't know it's being hunted until it's far too late'.

We can flip the script; rather than viewing the approach as a chore, it's just part of the great game. A challenge. IOI's are important; otherwise you might just be viewed a thirsty letch. Though recently I have been taking a certain amount of pleasure in completely ignoring women who, viewed at a distance, definitely want my attention. I can see instantly, by their appearance and how they look at me, whether or not they are worth my time. Most, it must be said, are not.

Question: for someone with an average job and above average height, can you explain how you have had sex with lots and lots of women? And how women stare at you and want your attention so you can decide if you want to have sex with them?

I can see you are very smooth with your words, but unless you are joking around, there is something you are not telling us.

I guess that's one of the Laws of Power, make everything look easy.

 

[RangerMIke]

I approach women because I can not turn it off. Really I can't, it's part of who I am. I am constantly being miss understood because I treat all chicks the same, fat/skinny, ugly/pretty, I flirt with them all. It is the secret to my success, but it has gotten me in trouble a few times but it's been mostly good.

 

[Trainwreck]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

We don't agree on much but this post is spot on. I feel like puas have pedastalized women in a different way by making us cater so much to them. Catering to women like this will always put us in the lower seat and I agree I'm done.

 

[Bible_Belt]

IOI's are important

The importance of the IOI relates directly to a guy's ability to notice it. Women are subtle, and most men are oblivious. But if you are good at reading the IOI, there is no more cold approaching, because that approach isn't cold. She's inviting you to talk to her with that look, that smile, whatever subtle little thing that she does that she thinks is so obvious.

 

[beforeimgone]

I'm not approaching girls anymore..

- I work out, most girls don't.

- No I don't have a high status job but I have 3 jobs and I work about 75 hrs a week. I'm ok financially ..

-I keep myself extremely well groomed

- I buy top shelf cologne and apply 2x a day for the smelling pleasure of others.

-I dress well, and make sure to coordinate.

-I'm well read and well spoken.

-Ill never be a male model or have 6 pack abs because I like buffalo wings too much but you can definitely tell I work out and I know I'm stronger than 97% of men walking around..

-I'm book and street smart. We can discus Hellenistic philosophy, or I can tell you what neighborhood to get Percocet in..

-I have no kids

-Never wed.

-Me and my room mate have a sweet ass bachelor pad..

-I know I'm amazing at sex.. Its mind blowingly good


I'm not bragging.. I'm stating facts.
Why the f*ck am I approaching females?

Shouldn't they be approaching me?
I mean you date me I generally gain nothing.. Sex.

But I could pay for high priced escorts that's a 9 in my eyes that would be cheaper than 2 dates with an average looking girl..

You gain at the very least a decent free meal and drinks and so much more if I like you..

So ... Why should I approach girls again?
Unless the IOIs are blatant I'm just not doing it anymore..
I feel like 9/10 girls I'm really the prize and the prize shouldnt have to do the work.

And I know this post sounds very narcissistic
but its truly how I feel lately.

Looking good, feeling good, and being awesome are cool, but expecting women to come or show you any iois will limit you.

You don't have to look good. You don't have to be an awesome or fun Guy to around. Nor do you have to be a God at sex. When I was younger, I practiced eating pvssy and fvcking until I was awesome. Now I don't eat pvssy unless it looks exceptionally pretty. I never ask if she came after svx. I don't spend a dime on women and if they want me to come over, I make them pay. Sometimes cash sometimes favors. I'm also not a very fun Guy to be around. I prefer to have them feeling uneasy and unsure around me. It keeps them how I like them.

Sure there's no point approaching bottom of the barrel females, but the bvtches that u genuinely want to fvck won't approach. It doesn't matter because you should see yourself as a predator. Walk up to her, grab her by the pvssy, and just do whatever the fvck you want. I love approaching. I can visibly see them wither in most cases.

Your perception of high value appears to be misguided.

 

[RichardTheFrog]

This is how sexual relationships began in primal days.

You forgot the part about her begging for food so she doesn't starve to death.

Her contribution to the community is what bleeds into her Wilma Flintstone loincloth once per month.

 

[BeExcellent]

I agree with what @LJC and @TheMonkeyKing said here. I also agree with @Bible_Belt that few men are actually consistently good at reading IOIs.

I can tell you this. Women who are worth having are going to sort men based on IL. I know I do (and always have). I'm not going to go approach or chase any man when I have 3 similarly appealing men who have approached me or shown interest in me.

Additionally to be passive is not a dominant characteristic. I find I most appreciate men who are utterly direct (in a classy way) about what they want. Boldness & directness is sexy.

If you aren't willing to approach or show interest then you lose the opportunity to display decisiveness and dominance, you lose an opportunity to turn a girl on in a primal way.

Why lose that opportunity? Nobody is suggesting you act indiscriminately at all, but the best women are going to choose men who act like THE MAN.

Passive behavior eliminates this advantage from your repoire and makes you look shallow and weak compared to if you make the approach.

As you move up the food chain your options regarding women will improve. Be discriminating. Make the approach. You are still the man. Hotter/better girls are going to expect you to approach them. It's the man's role. Embrace it.