If I told you that you could be a millionare in 5 years

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but to get there, you had to be homeless for a year and live in a homeless shelter and figure out a way to survive, and all you could take is 2 pair of clothes, and some personal items and 10 dollars, you could not have your job. would you do it?
 

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sounds like a personal story, did you make or break the million mark?

Would love to hear it!

and no, I personally wouldn't do all that JUST for money. If you end up with the job you really aimed for, sure. If it's just for the money, no thanks.
 

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In a shelter in the states, yes. In a shelter in latin-america, no.

Edit: And, I think I'd have to make a conscious effort not to "grow" out of the shelter.
 

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No.

I'm on my way to making my first million, and I've been fortunate enough in life to have a pretty good start that doesn't require me to live in a homeless shelter.
 

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Totally. A year is nothing compared to a lifetime of new opportunities. It might even be freeing to be out of the whole job/rat race thing.
 

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search1ng said:
sounds like a personal story, did you make or break the million mark?

Would love to hear it!

and no, I personally wouldn't do all that JUST for money. If you end up with the job you really aimed for, sure. If it's just for the money, no thanks.
Car not a shelter and I hit that 4 years ago at least in net worth.


The reason I brought it up is something happened. I know this guy, guy has all the potential in the world, is just.. he hasnt' found anything to make him want to harness that potential yet. He's the type of guy that if you made live in a shelter, he'd come out with the fire lit under his ass and be a millionaire in 5 years. Once you go through something ike that, that fire doesnt' stop just because you have a roof over your head. It gives you a type of focus a type of hunger that, you don't even think is possible. You dont' give a damn what has to be done, I got to get out of this situation, that's the bottom line.


Actually wasn't.. THAT bad. It was for like a month and a half, at first it was humiliating, but I grew alot out of that. I told myself I would never let that happen again, to be that broke, and not just that broke, to ever depend on anyone to do anything for me that I can't do myself. It's like most people think well if X and Y happens well I can always do this or I can go live with mom for a few weeks, I didn't have that. thought I did, didn't. my mom wasn't dying lol.

You go through something like that.. getting up in the morning before sunrise is easier. Focusing on doing the best you can, is not as hard to do anymore. Giving it your all everyday, at least for me, was not going to be a problem.

Something else I found, you'd be surprised at who is homeless. NOt just bums and crackheads. One dude that I got to somewhat know started a pretty nice company, he invested all his money in it, it went belly up now he had no where to go. Even with that, kept himself clean, and wasn't all that down. Just temporary, i'll be fine. I have no doubt he is fine right now.

I've always been an atheist, for a while but for the past 6 months, I don't know what it is, I've started accepting god. Wow I can't believe I just typed that lol. One of the things i have come to realize is that, God might have a plan for you, for instance, you may really really want to do something, but most people, want to be able to do it on their terms, and if you can, great, but more times than not, god will say okay, you want to do this.. i'm going to tell you now, you aren't ready ot do this. but, if you stick iwth me, By the time I'm done with you, you will be ready. "This is going to suck, but when i'm done, you will be more than ready to handle what you want. And then when god puts them through whatever it is he feels that they need to go through, they c hicken out. so I guess I'm saying that most people don't want some things as bad as they think they do. It's kinda like AA, I spondered a few people (the most ironic part of my homelessness is, never had a drop to drink. I didn't start using utnil I had money) and they will say man i really want to get clean, you tell me what I need to do I will do it. Okay buddy, for the first week they will do this. Then you tell them to do something else, go to this meeting at 6am.. I look at a guy and I can tell that whenever he gets around a woman heg ets the urge to use, and I tell him look buddy.. no women for you for a year. in fact give me your damn cell phone, you use a pay phone to call me."but./.." but what? I thought you said you would do anything? But is a reservation. I want to get clean but, I want to be wealthy but, I want to start a business but, I want to lose 50 pounds but... A person can achieve anything they want if they get rid of all reservations that they have.
 

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Back to the question, no, I wouldn't do it. Without a job, it would turn me into a criminal to survive. I would devolve into something that would remain for the rest of my life to one degree or another.
 

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If you told me that I would tell you that you could earn the million in less than 5 years from scratch, without having to be homeless in the process. I assume you already figured this out.

I get what you mean about the fire in your ass thing. Rich pampered kids have no drive. Dudes from poor families and stuff like that have burning drive.
Here's the thing: That drive is sometimes psychological scar tissue. Psychological scar tissue is **** for your mental health. You might one day see these people with drive on wall street earning billions and killing themselves over losing a million. In some cases, the drive is compensating for insecurity. That's a bad, bad road.
 

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1. most extremely successful people are screwy. I have issues. i see a phyc once a week... it takes a pretty ****ed up person to / out of wack to go against all reason to do something. I got bent over quite bad by my family in this phase, and if not for my son, i would have been more than happy to never talk to any of them again but having a kid makes you take a different perspective on life.

2. women leave emotional scares to yet no one tells you not to **** women. that's a cop out.

It's not so much the actual act of being homeless... but, just what are you willing to sacrifice to achieve your goals? Anything is possible, if you are willing to sacrifice everything for it, and sometimes, you really, really do need to sacrifice everything. It's not for everyone,I get that. There are alot of parallels between success in business/ financinees and staying clean and sober two things i've had/had to deal with. it's really, not all that difficult, either of them. You can't not get what you want in life if you have a definite chief aim, plan for it, learn form your mistakes, try to better yourself on a daily basis, and never lose you enthusiasm for what you are doing. it's not possible to not succeed. in AA it's not possible to use if you talk to your sponsor, go to meetings, read the big book, work the steps. rarely have we seen anyone fail who has thoroughly followed our path. That can be said for both (it is said in AA lol) most people know exactly what they need to do for both, it's just actually doing it that is the problem.
same thing with women, alot of guys here, know how to be successful with women, it's just easier said than done to not call that girl when you are thinking about her all day long.

most people at the end of the day, alot like with women, it's not that they can't, they just are too comfortable in their comfort zone. Life is extremes. A person who is willing to go moderately out of their comfort zone rather it be with women or business, can only be moderately successful. A person who is willing to extremely out of theier comfort zone rather it can be with women or with business, has the potential to be extremely successful. The guy who wants to **** hb 9's so bad he will get shot down day in and ay out, but you know what he keeps going and by the end of the month he has found 3 or 4 that thinks he's cute and he has a rotation of smoking hot babes, yet no one sees how many fires he started with all his flames, all they see is the success story and then come here and say things like "i see AFC's with hb 10's all day long". The guy who isn't willing to go out of his comfort zone is like the a sea anemone, you pretty much are going to get what the **** happens to come to you and you are going to be happy with it.


I hae more but my girl is horny so i'm going to get some nookie. ttyl
 

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Well if you actually go into poverty by your free will its alot different then say just being poor.

The person that went into poverty on purpose has a safety net just because he can call someone up if he cant hack it and everything goes back to normal. While the guy thats really poor would really get the real benifit of this whole experiment.

I would actually like to see if I could survive in the wilderness by myself...saw a military special where some marines had to survive in the snow covered forest and create a few things for a week. I'd like to try that.

But personally it would be a pretty good wake up call to see how the other side lives.
 

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You're proposal is interesting. I'm not sure if I'd do it voluntarily, but I'm sure it has been done.
Risk takers can get pretty wealthy or go bust, but in today's economy, I feel the latter is the norm.
 

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I understand what you’re saying.

At one point in time i had a boss that most considered an a-hole. I thought he was hard but not totally unreasonable. He pushed me to my limits. I took risks, i was on the ball every day, and i worked HARD.....I got so good that i felt i wanted even more responsibility (and money) so i left that job and got a higher position. But that drive is no longer there. There is no one to push me that hard here.

I keep thinking that maybe I can motivate myself on my own, but it always ends up being a temporary hype up. I keep asking: what’s it worth to you? I know that I have to want it as bad as I want to breath, but the truth is, I don’t. I’m too comfortable where I’m at. It’s even worse when you have people (family) depending on you for money. You can no longer take the kinds of risks that you would take if you ware on your own. I just don’t have the discipline right now, to keep the inspiration and motivation going for an extended period of time.
 

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No. There is no amount of money that could make me sleep under a bridge and eat bugs to survive.
 

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5string said:
No. There is no amount of money that could make me sleep under a bridge and eat bugs to survive.
I read your comment, then I read your sig.

Somehow, in my head, it reads: With sufficient money, I survive (live under a bridge) just fine.
 

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Great post BB. I was on the verge of bankruptcy earlier this year and then turned around and lost everything in a fire in July. If I would not have spent the first six months grinding hard, I would have been very close to homeless after that fire. I will never depend on one job for my sole income ever again. I will never live check to check again. I will never not have money in savings again.
 

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search1ng said:
sounds like a personal story, did you make or break the million mark?

Would love to hear it!

and no, I personally wouldn't do all that JUST for money. If you end up with the job you really aimed for, sure. If it's just for the money, no thanks.
Uh, this is the Internet. Of course he is a billionaire! So is every teenage boy that hangs on the Net. They all are worth millions, have a private plane, drive new BMW M5's, etc. They have great stories to tell you as well (when they are not in class).

Hate to spring this on you, but a million dollars means nothing. Any American with a line of credit can be worth that. All of Nevada was worth more than that until they couldn't pay off their debts! Big difference in being liquid and being in debt. Even a million liquid means little these days. Some of you must really come from poor parts of America.
 

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BigJimbo said:
Uh, this is the Internet. Of course he is a billionaire! So is every teenage boy that hangs on the Net. They all are worth millions, have a private plane, drive new BMW M5's, etc. They have great stories to tell you as well (when they are not in class).

Hate to spring this on you, but a million dollars means nothing. Any American with a line of credit can be worth that. All of Nevada was worth more than that until they couldn't pay off their debts! Big difference in being liquid and being in debt. Even a million liquid means little these days. Some of you must really come from poor parts of America.
BigJimbo, it seems like you have some issues. I haven't seen you offer much value on this forum. Most of your posts seem like you're trying to one-up people and assert your "superiority". Give it a rest.
 

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I just skim read his stuff and move on, usually nothing to see really.
 

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That's what a lot of people don't realize...the difference between idly "wishing" for something and really deciding you WANT it.

Wishing is just that...if suddenly you had a million dollars, you would prefer it to your current state. If you had 6-pack abs, you would prefer it to your current state. But the idea behind a wish is that it's granted without any effort from you.

When you really, REALLY want something, you're willing to make sacrifices to get it.

Fitness is the classic example. Each and every one of us has the potential to be fit and strong, to lose all that visceral bodyfat and be some form or shape of "Adonis".

The things is, when you tell people what they need to do to acquire that fit shape, the work in their mind outweighs the benefits of having that level of fitness. They typically enjoy food or "laziness" far too much to sacrifice it to get the body they want.

That's not a problem in itself...if food is more important to you than fitness, then more power to you.

HOWEVER, the problem lies when they get bitter at those who ARE fit, who HAVE put in the work, have made the sacrifices, and have achieved that goal. Realistically, the person who chooses a life of sloth and gluttony should be saying, "Yes, it would be nice to look like that, but I am willing to sacrifice that for my love of food." Or they would sacrifice their love of food and sleep for the goal and achieve it.

Instead, they put down those who have made it that far. "Look at those people...they are lucky to have such good genes", or, "those meatheads...they must be juicing".

http://www.gymjones.com/knowledge.php?id=36

Worse are the people who go halfway. The ones who sign up for gym memberships, jump on the elliptical for 10 minutes and throw around a few 2lb weights and then wonder, "Why am I not getting thinner? I'm doing the work!" as they stuff a Big Mac in their faces.

There's an old Koan that talks about how a master and his student were walking by a lake and the student began talking about how much he desired enlightenment. So the master took the student's head and shoved it into the lake until the student thrashed and started to drown, then the master pulled his head back above the water. He then asked the disciple, "what did you desire most when you were under the water?". The disciple replied, "air, of course!" And the master responded, "When you desire enlightenment as much as you desired air, you will find it."

Wealth is often the same way. Everyone WISHES they were rich, but few people actually WANT to be rich.

There's some merit to that perspective...there are people who have sacrificed their entire lives for wealth in their later years, but now find themselves too old to enjoy it, having worked away their "best years" busting arse trying to make those millions.

I accepted long ago that to truly bring large amounts of wealth into my life, I was going to have to find a way that I enjoyed...I know my own limitations and I know that I won't have the drive and motivation to continue at something if I am not truly passionate about it...I will falter. I could force myself to do something I hate to try to make that "bank", but I would hate my life and wake up every morning wanting to put a bullet in my head...that's no way to live. We're on this planet for a limited time.

There are people who CAN do that...just doing business and making money is enough for them. They don't CARE what the business is. That is certainly an enviable trait. And those people are financially successful more often than not.

In answer to the original question...I've thought before about trying to be "homeless" for a week or a month, just trying it out to see how I could survive. Then going back to "real life". It's only been an idle thought, though. I don't think I'd learn enough from it for it to really benefit me, and it would derail me from the other things I enjoy doing in life.

But you're absolutely right. Even taking SMALL steps out of your comfort zone in life can be a beneficial experience.
 
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