if a hot HB had interest in you and now doesn't will silence work?

[pete101]

i understand you have to pass all the sh1t tests and also keep a strong frame when you're in the ascendency and also in the decline if she starts losing a bit of interest and not let any weak afc behaviour come out. example: i met a super hot HB 2 weeks ago, seemed really interested thanks me for a wonderful time on our date the next day. i made an error after by being too forward sexually suggesting to come over.. she declined, i somewhat back tracked and offered a day date instead.. what should i have done at that point?

she accepted, but then flaked the next day (i think she met a new guy the night before she was excited about) and said she'd let me know later if we're still meeting, i was too agreeable, should have just said 'ok' she contacted me that night asking how my day was didn't talk about us meeting.. that's where i lost her, went all afc on her.. nail in coffin, talking too much. i left it on what i thought was a good note but damage was done. few days later i asked her how she was feeling, she answered one line but no question. i sensed low IL so i left it. i applied the 2 strikes rule and today asked her out for tomrorow or weds but she replied with 'sorry i cant im really busy this week' number deleted. i know it was my fault turning afc talking too much when i should have punished her with my silence when she flaked.

however with a hot HB like this invited to so many parties social gatherings meeting so many guys she's going to be pulled in every direction, how does one keep them attracted on you when so many guys are coming into the picture? i thought being silent over these past week or so would help but i knew damage was already done. in scenarios where they lose IL, no amount of silence is going to get them back right..even if they contact you they just want to see if you're still interested for validation purposes.. if you dont give it and remain silent is this likely to eat her up over the following weeks/months or is it more likely she just doesn't care anymore so no amount of silence is going to bring that interest back up even if she thinks she has lost you?

 

[RangerMIke]

i understand you have to pass all the sh1t tests and also keep a strong frame when you're in the ascendency and also in the decline if she starts losing a bit of interest and not let any weak afc behaviour come out. example: i met a super hot HB 2 weeks ago, seemed really interested thanks me for a wonderful time on our date the next day. i made an error after by being too forward sexually suggesting to come over.. she declined, i somewhat back tracked and offered a day date instead.. what should i have done at that point?

That wasn't a mistake. You have to let her know that you are sexually interested in her. That is what she expects a man to do.

Offering a day date was a mistake.

she accepted, but then flaked the next day (i think she met a new guy the night before she was excited about) and said she'd let me know later if we're still meeting, i was too agreeable, should have just said 'ok' she contacted me that night asking how my day was didn't talk about us meeting.. that's where i lost her, went all afc on her.. nail in coffin, talking too much. i left it on what i thought was a good note but damage was done. few days later i asked her how she was feeling, she answered one line but no question. i sensed low IL so i left it. i applied the 2 strikes rule and today asked her out for tomrorow or weds but she replied with 'sorry i cant im really busy this week' number deleted. i know it was my fault turning afc talking too much when i should have punished her with my silence when she flaked.

Yep, probibly another dude. This happens, don't let it get to you or worry about it. Most guys are fvcking clueless chances are he's going to mess up, just be patient. And yes you were too agreeable, when a women flakes on you don't let it get to you just say "Okay, another time then, thanks for calling", say goodbye and hang up.

Don't get suckered into talking to her on the phone. She called you because she still had some interest in you and likely her other date did not go well. But going all Beta on her, you allowed her to shed some guilt and moved you closer to 'friendzone'. What you should have said: "Hey I would love to see you and talk but I'm busy right now, when are you free for dinner or drinks this week?" If she gives you BS excuses, next her. If she makes a date and flakes again... next her. If she flakes a second time, you really need to give serious thought to NOT asking her out again. Don't worry about '2 strike rule' go with your intuition, if you think asking her out a third time will do the trick, then do what you want... just understand that your game has to be good and you can not come across as needy.

however with a hot HB like this invited to so many parties social gatherings meeting so many guys she's going to be pulled in every direction, how does one keep them attracted on you when so many guys are coming into the picture? i thought being silent over these past week or so would help but i knew damage was already done. in scenarios where they lose IL, no amount of silence is going to get them back right..even if they contact you they just want to see if you're still interested for validation purposes.. if you dont give it and remain silent is this likely to eat her up over the following weeks/months or is it more likely she just doesn't care anymore so no amount of silence is going to bring that interest back up even if she thinks she has lost you?

Don't worry about other guys... confident men don't worry about the competion. Trust me most guy don't know what the fvck they are doing... they will likely screw up. You keep her interested in you by being different. Don't kiss her @ss like the other guys are going to do and you will stand out.

Going silent on a women works regardless of what she does. If she is still interested in you she will reach out. If she is not interested in you you will know because she won't contact you and you know where you stand... either way you win. Just undertand that when you pull back and go no contact you should EXPECT that you will not hear from her and move on the the next target. If you do hear from her, then great see if you can make something happen.

 

[nismo-4]

Silence only works on interested women.

Anyways, when a woman flakes on you, you have failed.

She may come back to get you as a friend (beta orbiter) at this point. I delete new women after one flake. My one strike rule. Don't waste time with disinterest.

 

[pete101]

That wasn't a mistake. You have to let her know that you are sexually interested in her. That is what she expects a man to do.

Offering a day date was a mistake.



Yep, probibly another dude. This happens, don't let it get to you or worry about it. Most guys are fvcking clueless chances are he's going to mess up, just be patient. And yes you were too agreeable, when a women flakes on you don't let it get to you just say "Okay, another time then, thanks for calling", say goodbye and hang up.

Don't get suckered into talking to her on the phone. She called you because she still had some interest in you and likely her other date did not go well. But going all Beta on her, you allowed her to shed some guilt and moved you closer to 'friendzone'. What you should have said: "Hey I would love to see you and talk but I'm busy right now, when are you free for dinner or drinks this week?" If she gives you BS excuses, next her. If she makes a date and flakes again... next her. If she flakes a second time, you really need to give serious thought to NOT asking her out again. Don't worry about '2 strike rule' go with your intuition, if you think asking her out a third time will do the trick, then do what you want... just understand that your game has to be good and you can not come across as needy.



Don't worry about other guys... confident men don't worry about the competion. Trust me most guy don't know what the fvck they are doing... they will likely screw up. You keep her interested in you by being different. Don't kiss her @ss like the other guys are going to do and you will stand out.

Going silent on a women works regardless of what she does. If she is still interested in you she will reach out. If she is not interested in you you will know because she won't contact you and you know where you stand... either way you win. Just undertand that when you pull back and go no contact you should EXPECT that you will not hear from her and move on the the next target. If you do hear from her, then great see if you can make something happen.

I had a feeling offering a day date instead might have been a mistake after i did it.. but at that point i was just confused as she was all like 'you're wasting your time if you just want sex' in her message before.

what would you suggest i have done/said at that point? in future if this scenario comes up again

 

[RangerMIke]

I had a feeling offering a day date instead might have been a mistake after i did it.. but at that point i was just confused as she was all like 'you're wasting your time if you just want sex' in her message before.

what would you suggest i have done/said at that point? in future if this scenario comes up again

Don't worry about it or dwell on it. Give her some space, don't contact her for a few weeks and re-boot. Call her, ask her out on an evening date then take it from there. See what happens.

When a women says ANYTHING about sex... she wants sex. Anytime a women says:

'you're wasting your time if you just want sex'

What she REALLY means is...

"We're going to have sex as long as you don't talk yourself out of it."

 

[LMFAO]

I had a feeling offering a day date instead might have been a mistake after i did it.. but at that point i was just confused as she was all like 'you're wasting your time if you just want sex' in her message before.

what would you suggest i have done/said at that point? in future if this scenario comes up again

That's usually just a sh!t test. I would reply with something like "You're bringing up sex already? I know that I'm charming, witty and successful but maybe we should slow down ". It doesn't make any fvcking sense but it's about changing her mood not her mind, and not reacting to any of her sh!t.

Yes a day date is gay, you want to take her to a bar close to your place and bang her. No day date, no lunch, no dinner, no double date, no long walks on the beach.

Any text message from a girl starting or ending with "sorry" has 99% chance of being BS. Even if they have a good reason for flaking you (which they nearly never do) - in their mind though fvcking another guy is a great reason - the sorry part is BS they're not sorry for anything. The hotter girls just see you as one guy out of 20 on their phone easily replaceable and they'll happily double or triple book several guys and then flake on a couple, sometimes even all. They'll just string you along so they get an ego boost with several guys fighting over taking her out, without any of the guys knowing. Girls are masters at plate spinning through manipulation and lies. Only the alphas are really aware of this and spin plates to match.

 

[pete101]

Don't worry about it or dwell on it. Give her some space, don't contact her for a few weeks and re-boot. Call her, ask her out on an evening date then take it from there. See what happens.

When a women says ANYTHING about sex... she wants sex. Anytime a women says:

'you're wasting your time if you just want sex'

What she REALLY means is...

"We're going to have sex as long as you don't talk yourself out of it."

oh forget about im not worried about tryign to get her haha it's more in general. .what should i have said in those circumstances as a response?

should i have been silent and not responded?

 

[pete101]

That's usually just a sh!t test. I would reply with something like "You're bringing up sex already? I know that I'm charming, witty and successful but maybe we should slow down ". It doesn't make any fvcking sense but it's about changing her mood not her mind, and not reacting to any of her sh!t.

Yes a day date is gay, you want to take her to a bar close to your place and bang her. No day date, no lunch, no dinner, no double date, no long walks on the beach.

Any text message from a girl starting or ending with "sorry" has 99% chance of being BS. Even if they have a good reason for flaking you (which they nearly never do) - in their mind though fvcking another guy is a great reason - the sorry part is BS they're not sorry for anything. The hotter girls just see you as one guy out of 20 on their phone easily replaceable and they'll happily double or triple book several guys and then flake on a couple, sometimes even all. They'll just string you along so they get an ego boost with several guys fighting over taking her out, without any of the guys knowing. Girls are masters at plate spinning through manipulation and lies. Only the alphas are really aware of this and spin plates to match.

yeah im definitely aware of this. with her though she lives in a super rich area and all the bars near her are super expensive.. hence our first date was more than i usually would spend.. 2 drinks 1 non alcoholic for me.. $36.. not really her tryna hustle me more so the bar is overpriced.

i was just tryna be cheap and suggest to bring a bottle over to save money but it backfired. it definitely was a sh1t test and i lost. lesson learned.

 

[Stugots26]

It's amazing how time and distance works.

There has not been a single woman I've been romantically involved with who has NOT gotten back in touch after time and distance between us. This is pre- and post-Red Pill.

Women take however long they're going to take, but yes, assume that you're never going to hear from them again.

There's different levels to that - obviously you're infinitely less likely to hear from her if she eliminates every form of connection between you.

The more that you have platforms to "passively communicate" publicly (i.e. Facebook, LinkedIn) about the awesome events and changes in your life, the more likely she is to have an innocuous excuse to reach out to you about it ("Congratulations," "Happy Birthday") especially if she went into avoidance. It's less likely that she'll just swallow her pride when she knows she's been a b1tch, but that has happened to me too.

However, the more that you just live your life and keep your cool, the better the chance you have of her getting in touch.

 

[_sideways_]

Theres another hb9.9 waiting around every corner....

 

[El Payaso]

How do you keep women attracted?

By doing what pleases you and not giving a f*ck.

 

[RangerMIke]

oh forget about im not worried about tryign to get her haha it's more in general. .what should i have said in those circumstances as a response?

should i have been silent and not responded?

Really all depends on HOW she said it... this is one of the reasons why I hate texting, because you can't tell by the tone of her voice attitude. If she said it in a joking way... then joke back. Joke around and say something like "Well, are we talking about 'Bill Clinton' definition of sex?" Then push her for details in a funny way.

If she said it in a matter of fact way say "WHAT!, you're being a bit forward expecting sex from me, you're going to have to woo me a little before ANYTHING is going to happen." Like you misunderstood what she said, then see what happens... If she lightens up a bit then joke a bit. Get her laughing. After to mood is lighten just say "Come on over.. you have nothing to worry about."

When she is there escallate.... In all my years I have only had only one women I failed to seduce once I got her back to my place. She was on a 'break' from her BF and OMG, what a mess the crying and BS was stupid, because I never even made a move on her. I honestly wanted to turn a hose on her and chase her out.

Oh... one more thing, you really have to have an interesting place. If you live in a bear cave... I have no idea how successful you might be. Your place should be as clean as possible with lots of interesting things to see and talk about.

 

[VladPatton]

Next time:

"You're wasting you're time if you just want sex"

--Actually I was thinkin more of a blowie/handy kind of a situation...don't jump the gun!