I was "too direct".. girl from "Took girl back to my place after bar"

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Well some of you got it right when said she would show her crazy side by the 2nd date.. heres the story.

I went out with the girl I took back to my place after the bar last week and in the beginning she was great, had a great sense of humor and was really into me. We grabbed a drink and then went back to my place, this girl was basically begging for it however I knew this girl likes to play hard to get and so I gave her a little piece of her own medicine. After teasing and making her moan without even going near her underwear, she then starts the "were not having sex" line.. ohh the classic line where women like to be in control of sex. I responded to her by saying she wasn't ready yet and I like a woman who is ready for me. Of course she tried validate her reasons on why shes the best and how i'll "be the one who's sexually frustrated". I laughed it off and continued to raise some heat by getting her going. All of a sudden she says "what if I told you I wanted you to eat me out", I paused and looked at her by saying she would have to do her part in order for that to happen. Suddenly a switch goes off and the craziness comes out. She asks me to repeat myself like I had said something so wrong and disrespectful, I looked at her and asked if she thought this was a free buffet? She got up and asked for some water, she clearly wanted to sober up.

After grabbing her a glass of water and making sure she doesnt drive home (a man has morals). She gives me a bratty attitude and acts like a child. Of course at this point all I can do is feel bad for her instead of putting up a fight. After 15 minutes she decided to leave by ignoring my request to sober up and heads right to her car. 30 minutes goes by and I am in bed watching tv, I notice a car running and the lights are one, I also see the blonde who was just in my apartment laying her head right on the steering wheel. At this point i am thinking she passed out. As I made my way to the car she looks at me with crazy Taylor Swift eyes and asks what I was doing. I told her I was concerned and asked why she is still in the parking lot. She said she needed to sober up first but still refuses to come back inside. After I left I went back to bed and then 15 minutes later I hear the same woman...errr.. girl still in the parking lot but this time she is trying to back out, it's not working. I go out there and she asks me to help her back her car out, I told her she was drunk and to get back inside or I am calling a taxi. She refused and started to yell at me, as much as I wanted to tell her off I kept it inside and stayed mature. She later decided to come inside with her muddy shoes and use my bathroom. She then asked me why I made those comments about my "selfish response" of eating her out. I told her I wasn't one of those guys who is going to do everything for her just because she is some model. She replied that she was only kidding and I called out her bs. 30 minutes later she left and drove away.

The next day she blew up my phone expressing her deepest apology and revealed its the reason why he ex broke up with her (you don't say..). She asked for a second chance and so I gave it to her (bad move). We get together again and spent the night in the city running away and at this moment I was ACTUALLY HAVING A GOOD TIME. Built up some sexual innuendo and chatted a little bit like two normal do when getting to know each other. At the end of the night she decides to tell me that she doesnt want to kiss me and that "it will lead to something". Dropped her off and left.

The next day she calls me crying cause she got in an accident.. doesn't know how to file a police report and at this point I am just amazed by everything. Me being a man took charge and helped her, she then needed money for a rental and suggest to call some dude that will do anything for her.. I call those guys "orbiters". What is an orbiter? someone who will do anything for someone and hoping they will come around and be with them. Anyways this was my cue and I told her good luck and left.

The next day again lol. She texts me telling me that I am "a great guy" but is not the type of guy she is looking for. She then goes on to tell me how I am "too direct" and shows signs of "****iness". At this time without telling her how crazy she is, I told her I absolutely agree with her and good luck.

3 days later.. she texts me saying she wants to be friends. Now most guys would say "NO WAY" or "This girl is crazy" or my favorite line "She'll put you in the friend zone bro". Absolutely however I believe that no one puts you in the friend zone but YOURSELF. When a girl wants to be friends, she wants you still in their life, why? cause they value you but don't trust themselves with you romantically. So what do you do? you take the friendship but you play neutral. You don't chase, you don't be available and most importantly you have limited time if you do hang out with her. You tease a little bit, you be playful but you end the night how you want it and you demonstrate that she hasn't qualify to be liked more than a friend. You turn it around and demonstrate that shes in YOUR friendzone.. not hers. That's how I still get laid.
 
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When you were in bed, you didn't push the right buttons. I think with her the silent treatment and grab her by the throat and escalate would've worked better. Probably could've said "shut the **** up" and got her wet. She needed dominance with the ****y, you just gave the ****y.

Classic attention *****. The playing neutral card with her being "just friends" or partying together is too much work to get laid. I'd rather play the aloof card when I'm actually aloof and not calculating against a crazy attention *****. I guess you could counter with the, "it's no work to not text back and be neutral", but it's still bull **** that I'd rather not deal with
 

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How long did it take you to make that story up? I'm putting money on 45mins.
 

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You must've gave off a real messed up vibe for a women to rather drive home drunk then stay and chat when she was already talking about eating out/ect.

When she asked about the eating out you should've just told her that would be hard to do with your pants still on. At that point you could've asked her what would she say if you told her to blow you ect...

When you said... "you would have to do your part in order for that to happen" you made everything sound like a hassle or chore. You give me this and I'll give you that... that's boring.
 

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A woman invites me to eat her out, Im happy to oblige, then, I am going to f^ck her too, twice. Casue thats how bad she is going to want it when Im done. I love eating box!

Dude, you were playing hard to get text message games, with a girl you already got wet and was ASKING you to go down on her! Red pill allergy.

You were shooting on the net in the forth period, when everyone else went home.

O and here is an idea, dont get, or let, a woman get to drunk that she does anything you just mentioned. I see some responsibility on your part here. Leadership is not always playing 007. Its actually monitoring the interaction as a whole.

Then, you get a second try, or give it, or whatever, and you still dont sleep with her?? I think you have your pants on backwards with this LJBF thing. You screamed friendzone beta man, the whole time. You just didnt see it cause you were to worried about being it!

This place if a higly valuable tool, and I like this forum too man, but none of it means sh!t till you practice it in the real world, over and over and over. What Im saying is, of course, plates. Make sure you are speanding more time doing and failing( if need be) , than you are reading and plotting perfection. You'll learn so much more.

You have to swallow the red pill, not put it in your eyes. You got tunnel vision on this one my friend. All respect because I think you didnt even know it at the time, and I think all of us have done it once at least also. But, learn from it.

P.S This girl actually sounds like someone you can still go for. Ghost for a few weeks. Than invite her to MEET you somewhere. Within five minutes, tell her, as your lip touches her earlobe, that your willing now to oblige her request, free of charge for being so well behaved.
 

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These are great responses and i appreciate it guys. No question ive learned a lot from this experience and i see what you mean about being a chore and playing too hard to get. I also know her and i had way too many serious conversations which i should of sniped it.

Today she friend requested me on facebook randomly. Ill go ghost for a couple weeks, invite her out and apply your suggestion saline.

Thanks guys.
 

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she want a friend request for social validation and keep tabs on you. Dont do it. Date other gals dude. Only invite her over to your house to hang. Puss from that chick isnt worth the hassle, shes indecisive and her ex is in the picture.
 

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Found myself in similar situations before, and I like your insight, especially about the "friendzone." I agree, the friendzone only exists if YOU let it and usually once that happens it's too late to fix.

Nothing is more frustrating than a great night, and tons of foreplay followed by "we're not having sex tonight." I don't think you handled that part badly, because it would have worked out if you handled the next part better and went down on her. I understand your reaction though, because I've done similar. Salinechow summed it up nicely a few posts up. Once a girl is ready for sex you can drop the mindfvck games and just go for it. Yea in some ways going down on her first because she asked seems like a shift in power but it's only a front.

I wouldn't add her on FB though. I don't think anything good can come from that, unless your FB game is very strong which it probably isn't. I think social media usually hurts guys more than it helps.
 

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There's no such thing as "being too direct".

State what you desire. Then take it.
 

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Thanks guys for comments. Im already seeing other women, i thought i would share this story with others and get some feedback before i run into another situation like this again.

I already accepted the friend request, it didnt matter to me. Shes going to see other women posting on my wall, liking my stuff and see high value i am to others. I'll probably invite her over again in the next couple weeks, keep it casual then make another move.
 

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No. This is a toxic girl and one who is addicted to drama. She's good at playing games and knows it. I'm telling you now: the sex is not worth it. There are plenty of cute girls who are good in bed who WONT end up slashing your tires or worse. I know you find this exciting, but take it from someone who allowed himself to get in too deep with low quality, drama girls before. It's your d!ck, all i'm saying is be careful where you put it.
 

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Found myself in similar situations before, and I like your insight, especially about the "friendzone." I agree, the friendzone only exists if YOU let it and usually once that happens it's too late to fix.
Just an FYI. And I think this was perhaps another @Espi quote. At any rate, another gem of a line to drop if you have the frame for the follow up...It has worked well for me twice.

HB " You are not getting laid tonight you know"

You " Well, maybe not by you."
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HB " We are not having sex tonight"

You "Maybe you're not. But I still might. Get dressed."
 

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Thanks guys for comments. Im already seeing other women, i thought i would share this story with others and get some feedback before i run into another situation like this again.

I already accepted the friend request, it didnt matter to me. Shes going to see other women posting on my wall, liking my stuff and see high value i am to others. I'll probably invite her over again in the next couple weeks, keep it casual then make another move.
Not a great move. Regardless of rationalization. Whatever, make it work now. Add at least five more girls you are at least communicating with in the next ten days as penance to your weakness. Im serious, but also kidding.
 

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