I want to become rich!

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Hi guys,

I´m 18 years old and I´m extremely determinated to become rich. My passion is golf. I wanna know if anyone is in the golf business and is making a lot of $$$. I don´t wanna become a tour pro, though. What options are there in the golf biz to get a lot of cash?`

thx in advance
 

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You can be the guy that drives that ball picking mobile, human rights have pressured golfers to install protective corrugated tin where the driver sits so you can get the money whilst exercising your abdominal muscles whilst you steer that banger! :D

Careful when you leave the vehicle though! :up:
 

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michaelhctam said:
You can be the guy that drives that ball picking mobile, human rights have pressured golfers to install protective corrugated tin where the driver sits so you can get the money whilst exercising your abdominal muscles whilst you steer that banger! :D

Careful when you leave the vehicle though! :up:

follow your passion.. it will come.

Myself and Star8up have done very well for ourselves being entraprenuers.. I am sure I am leaving someone out but him and I have been here forever. I am sure I speak for both of us by saying we couldn't been anywhere near where we are now if we hated what we do (in my case did).

I'll tell you my next pet project and it's not even money motivated, it's love of what I do motivated. I'm creating a horse racing website that is a LOT like hoopshype.com (a site I visit everyday) except for horse racing.. blogs, articles, and because alot of people know nothing about horse racing, and my goal is to bring more attention to the game, how to's, history of tracks, bloodlines (my fav), an online forum so people can come and talk..
I'm actually working on the layout and site design now, but I will probalby end up outsourcing it.. just because I can doesn't mean I want to (and I really don't have the time now that I think about it)

will it make money? Because i have experience in online companies, sure. But I if the site brought in 100k people a day and I didn't make a red dime I wouldn't care.
 

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Tiger Woods "caddy" was the highest paid "sportsmans" in New Zealand. Multi-millionaire!

There is hope! I played for the best junior golf academy in my country, but no idea how to become a caddy. A friend of mine was out watching a PGA tournament once, and was asked by a player who had just lost his caddy. It wasnt a career for him, but he was rewarded nicely.
 

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Man i hate to crush someone's dreams but can't you think of something more conventional chrizz? For every Bill Gates who pulls something like that off, there are 100 others that try and end up filing bankruptcy.
 

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Chrisz, which would you rather be, A - Rich yet unhappy, or B - Happy but poor? There is no C option in this question.
 

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Man i hate to crush someone's dreams but can't you think of something more conventional chrizz? For every Bill Gates who pulls something like that off, there are 100 others that try and end up filing bankruptcy.
Thank you. People like you are the reason for less competition. So, just because Bill Gates exists he shouldn't even try?

My advice to you (ChrizZ), is, where there is a will, there is a way. If you really, truly want to make money, you will. Even when others think you can't profit from something, you will. Asking people here probably won't get you many ideas. There are few people who are business-minded, and most will probably tell you that you can't find happiness that way, or you'll fail, etc. They are justifying their own shortcomings by encouraging you not to try.

I want to encourage you to ignore these kinds of people. Because once you get a little successful you'll notice these types of personalities in your own friends and family. People who you love and they love you, but they seem to not want to see you build a successful, unconventional path for yourself. I don't know what it is, but it seems people are just too stuck trying to be like everyone else.

Not everyone truly wants to be rich. The ones who really want it are on their journey, or have already achieved it. There is no in between. The people who say money doesn't buy happiness, that's right, but at least with money you have more freedom to figure out what it is that does make you happy.

Since you are also young, I can highly recommend a forum that will help you out. Check your PMs. I don't want to post it here because there is no need for them to get flooded with unnecessary visitors.
 

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Nighthawk said:
Chrisz, which would you rather be, A - Rich yet unhappy, or B - Happy but poor? There is no C option in this question.

This is the DUMBEST either-or ever.

I have to deal with the working poor every day. The owner of the company is SO much happier than them... and he has cancer!

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Nighthawk said:
Chrisz, which would you rather be, A - Rich yet unhappy, or B - Happy but poor? There is no C option in this question.
I didn't realize wealth and happiness were mutually exclusive.

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Thank you. People like you are the reason for less competition. So, just because Bill Gates exists he shouldn't even try?

My advice to you (ChrizZ), is, where there is a will, there is a way. If you really, truly want to make money, you will. Even when others think you can't profit from something, you will. Asking people here probably won't get you many ideas. There are few people who are business-minded, and most will probably tell you that you can't find happiness that way, or you'll fail, etc. They are justifying their own shortcomings by encouraging you not to try.

I want to encourage you to ignore these kinds of people. Because once you get a little successful you'll notice these types of personalities in your own friends and family. People who you love and they love you, but they seem to not want to see you build a successful, unconventional path for yourself. I don't know what it is, but it seems people are just too stuck trying to be like everyone else.
Oh, you're so politically correct, I'm brought to tears! :cry:

What i said was not politically correct, but my math was right. I personally wouldn't play the odds. Yes, there is the rare entrepreneur that will make a fortune rolling the dice, but I have a hard time respecting any opinion that is the near equilivent of telling someone to go to a casino because they might hit it big; even if the statement is politically correct.

If he knows himself to be a brilliant mind and dynamically innovative then, sure, go ahead and take the chance. But he was warned of the risks.... by me, not you.
 

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azanon said:
Oh, you're so politically correct, I'm brought to tears! :cry:

What i said was not politically correct, but my math was right. I personally wouldn't play the odds. Yes, there is the rare entrepreneur that will make a fortune rolling the dice, but I have a hard time respecting any opinion that is the near equilivent of telling someone to go to a casino because they might hit it big; even if the statement is politically correct.

If he knows himself to be a brilliant mind and dynamically innovative then, sure, go ahead and take the chance. But he was warned of the risks.... by me, not you.
Well, the biggest problem I had with your post is that you are saying that it's a matter of luck/chance. Bill Gates was not lucky. He had a dream and he had a lot of desire.

The problem is that a lot of people think rich people are just lucky. Or their father was rich, or they are corrupt or something. Seldom to people believe that the person actually worked hard and made it happen. It has nothing to do with luck. You are in control of your own financial situation. Luck or circumstance has nothing to do with it.

What I'm saying is the poor choose to be poor and the rich choose to be rich, especially in a country like America. Sure, if you live in Iraq, you might need luck, but even then you have a lot more control over your situation than you think. Donald Trump failed plenty of times. So did Andrew Carnegie, so did Warren Buffet, and so did Bill Gates. I'm sure people like you told them it's no use because there will never be another "blah blah" so what's the use in trying. All of them went bankrupt at one point in time! Bill Gates has gone bankrupt several times.

Plus, it's not like everyone wants to create a new operating system. Lots of people can be rich, but in different ventures. There's no limit in the wealth of the world.
 

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azanon said:
Oh, you're so politically correct, I'm brought to tears! :cry:

What i said was not politically correct, but my math was right. I personally wouldn't play the odds. Yes, there is the rare entrepreneur that will make a fortune rolling the dice, but I have a hard time respecting any opinion that is the near equilivent of telling someone to go to a casino because they might hit it big; even if the statement is politically correct.

If he knows himself to be a brilliant mind and dynamically innovative then, sure, go ahead and take the chance. But he was warned of the risks.... by me, not you.

I hit on this in another post about 2 weeks ago.

I have a quote that I stole from someone but I don't know who.. I'd rather die free than be a fat slave.

I would honestly, honestly, die trying, die being broke, but die chasing a dream, than to live a lie, a life that I wake up every morning.. better yet, staying up the night before because I don't want to go to sleep, because I don't want to wake up in the morning... alot of you have been there.

I don't expect everyone to think like me.. people think differently. some people like the security of a 50k job with benefits and a good education.

I will tell you Chriz... I went though pure HELL with my company. I literary lived in my car for a while. I wanted it that bad. but thinking back on it, although I didn't have a place or many if any friends, I was happy. Very happy. you find happiness in the little things, like working your ass off, doing what you want, then on a Friday night at 2 in the morning when you are finally done, making a pizza and drinking a coke and watching an eposide of your favorite TV show before you head off to bed to do it all again.. those were the highlights of my life for about 3 and a half years, and I loved it. A TV show never meant so much. I could enjoy every second of it because I know I gave it everything I had all day long.

Winston Churchill once said that Kites fly the highest when they go against the wind, not with it. You will be bucking trends. People around you will laugh. You won't have very many friends. there is a reason why people aren't rich, and I'm here to tell you it's not necessary because every idea isn't great.

Alot of people just don't want it. not everyone was in my position to have no kids, no spouse, no one to answer to. Myself with the same idea that put me in the position now, where I can sit right here and not work another day in my life if I really didn't want to, if I would have had a child... would have more than likely had to take a more conventional route in life.

granted, some ideas are horrible.. some just aren't that thought out. some people just can't get the money it takes for their business to succeed. some people get the first whiff of success and start acting crazy... one of the reasons I left my company was because my business partner transformed overnight and was more concerned about his new "toys" than running a (growing) company. some find a girl that derails them off their path that they were so focused on when they started the company.

I at one point in time was faced with all of those above problems to varying degrees. We were pretty well thought out, but there were still things we couldn't prepare for. My old oneitis came in my life right when I started putting some money back in my pocket (and still wouldn't fvck me) and wanted all my time. I got my toy. a new car and for about a month you couldn't keep me in the house. I was 21, but unlike my business partner, I never let it interfere with my day to day activities. If I went out on a Wednesday and didn't come to home until 3am, I drug my ass out of bed and made sure I opened the place up at 7:45... an would lock my office and take 2 hour siesta


anyway, I hope i was of some assistance, this got alot longer than I intended it to be
 

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I would honestly, honestly, die trying, die being broke, but die chasing a dream
I don't know if that's the quote you got from somewhere, but I've said similar things to my parents when trying to explain to them why I do the things I do. I would seriously, honestly, die a poor homeless person and have tried all my ideas to exhaustion, than to live a life of security and mediocrity for the rest of my life. Or worse yet, be 40 years old and regret not really following my passion when I was younger.

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...I wanted it that bad. but thinking back on it, although I didn't have a place or many if any friends, I was happy. Very happy. you find happiness in the little things, like working your ass off, doing what you want, then on a Friday night at 2 in the morning when you are finally done, making a pizza and drinking a coke and watching an eposide of your favorite TV show before you head off to bed to do it all again.. those were the highlights of my life for about 3 and a half years, and I loved it.
And I've said these exact things to my family and friends. They don't get it. They just can't seem to understand that happiness is subjective, that I can actually be happy living a life that doesn't seem "balanced" to them. I'm in that stretch right now myself. I'm working on several different projects just working hard until one of them catches. I've had a little taste of success, but it's like every time I get a little success I feel like it's nothing.

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Alot of people just don't want it.
That's something most people don't get either.

Great post. By the way, if you don't mind me asking, what is it that you succeeded in accomplishing?
 

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it's posted at least a dozen times on this forum, but in 2002 I started an online computer company and sold it.. at least my share, in 2005. It really wasn't about the money, I just couldn't do it anymore... let me rephrase that.. I couldn't do it under the circumstances I was in (my business partner) any longer. we had investors, and I sold my shares to them.

Plus I had gotten to the point where the computer industry was really getting old to me. It's not that exciting to me like it was. I'll always be into computers, but back then it was my life. It stopped being about computers and it was more about running a company.. that's when it wasn't fun any longer. Don't get me wrong, it had it's perks.. pay, I could technically leave when I wanted (although I really couldn't), I was my own boss, and I to this day still have some important contacts in that industry and I know some important people. but it wasn't fun.

something else I want to address, I'm waiting on someone so I have a couple of minutes to kill.. is that things really don't change when you have a little money in the bank. You just have a different set of problems. problems you just couldn't conceive when you didn't have money. I don't have to worry about how my bills are getting paid but I do have to worry about do how much money I send my grandmother every month.. the grandmother that kicked me out, which resulted me living in my car for a couple of months, because her BF, who was a crackhead, didn't want me there. But she's my grandmother and she's 60. I don't do it because i like her.. I do it because she is in fact my grandmother and has kept 2 jobs her entire life and she just had a heart attack this time last year.. it's time for her to rest a little. My little brother goes to college next year... damn I'm getting old. he's smart as ****.. and wants to go to school out of state. He will get a scholy somewhere, but he hits me up for money here and there NOW.. wait until he goes off to school. I don't mind, I actually want him to move out here with me ( california) and I like doing stuff for him.


something I don't even think I mentioned here.. my old oneitis..actually wants me. Bad. Real Bad. but we know why.. she didn't want anything to do with me when I was broke (to the point where we didn't talk for 2 years), then when she came back in my life, had it hot for me, but when she figured out " I wasn't going anywhere", decided she can have her cake and eat it too. When she figured out I moved to California, i can't get her to stop calling, emailing me. she basically laid the cards on the table. And she's recently engaged.. and she's willing to leave him to come out here and smooch off me. As hot as this girl is.. and she's hot, and even though I'm over her and have been for a while.... she knows how to pull my strings like no one else I have ever met.. part of it is because i honestly let her and i need to cut it out, I know better. But she does the same thing.. I don't want to date, because she know I won't let her back in my life if she does.. then she comes over and puts it on thick.

People resent you.. for no reason whatsoever.. my old best friends won't talk to me. If I treat myself to something I want, I'm "frivolous", if I am thrifty (which is usually my nature, I don't spend alot of money) I'm a cheap bastard. When I go on dates, women look at the car I am in and expect to go to a 200 dollar meal restaurant.. which is an uphill battle for me because I don't even take first dates out to eat..PUT PUT BABY!!!

I'm starting my lifelong dream this year.. a racing farm/stable. I haven't named it yet, but I'll be going to the yearling sales and buying me a couple of mares and colts that I will eventually run and breed.. it's taken me 10 years off and on to gather enough knowledge about horse bloodlines and the business in general, what trainer I want, where I want to run, etc, to feel comfortable enough to start. That's why I moved out to California. This is what I live for. this makes everything worthwhile.
 

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how about if I invest in the stock market? I guess it´s a good way to make a lot of money...

...but also to loose a lot of money?!
 

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Luthor Rex said:
This is the DUMBEST either-or ever.

I have to deal with the working poor every day. The owner of the company is SO much happier than them... and he has cancer!
I'm not suggesting these are his only options, of course rich people can be happy and poor ones miserable. The question, not devised by me btw, is designed to test those that think the two are synonymous. Some people choose 'rich but unhappy' and those people need to rethink their lives a little, don't you think?
 

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Yes, I am a God fearing man..hope this helps those who are searching for truth...rock on Brothers!!!:D
 

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Wait, are you saying Jesus has money? This whole time I've been praying to him for money and he's been holding out, that b*stard! I'm going to go back to praying to Santa Claus like I did when I was 4, at least he'd give me stuff.
 

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If you're not doing what you LOVE to do...not amount of wealth will make you happy. Obviously, BEING without money sucks, too, and it affords opportunities, however, if you have to work ungodly hours or do things you don't like to earn it, then all you'll do is buy crap to fill that void during your off hours and be resentful around your family and friends. Don't follow that path.

I play golf, too, but have yet to 'find' a way to make money. I live in the northeast. I would someone day love to own a golf course. The one I play at regularly is 36 holes, but they are trying to sell it for commerical development since it will fetch 70 million plus, and the family owns 10+ other courses. Sad thing is...this one fits a great nitch. Its affordable: $21 to play after work, all you can get in. This applies after 2pm. Before 2pm is like $29. And with 36 there's tons of options. The course plays pretty green, tougher putts, harder from the Blues. I go up there after work many nights to golf. Better than being a member and paying thousands of $.

Just follow your dream. Go to where golf is...Florida, AZ, Texas, Cali. Check out the various pro teaching schools, or work for club manufacturers. The other thing...think of products you would like that are cool gimmicks. I think of the Just Golf T's, or the Be Happy Ones. Stuff like that which is simple and unique. Some couple came up with a Boston/New England t shirt company using our famous ACCENT as its base. Totally cool idea. Totally obvious too.

You have to COMMITT to the dream before its realized here and now. Often, the "if and when" excuse prevails, and most people WAIT until circumstances are perfect, not knowing they never will be, and that luck and opportunity lies nearby, and isn't totally obvious, to anyone. Im training myself to see more and do more, and do it now. When the idea/thought strikes, not then, or when.

I like the stockmarket. I have always liked it. If I make a certain %, i don't think "gee what can I buy," I think, "now I can roll my profits forward and buy higher priced stock." I like the idea of blazing my own path. I like the idea of making my OWN golf swing and my own trading system. Make your own way. I think people believe a path beyond what they know and feel is out there...as if the army has it (we will make you a man), or a company has it (follow this path), or a college degree has it (get the degree and you'll be happy and successful.) That isn't so. It's ALWAYS a state of mind.

That degree you get will be obsolete soon and you will need to go back or need a higher education

That job you have will come and go as jobs do.

That money you have will grow and wilt based on your management.

Nothing is permanent, so there can't be an IF and WHEN with success, money or life. Since we are progressing...there's no point to GET TO. Because that point is coming and passing. It's like being on a roller coaster and waiting for 1 piece of track or 1 angle...it will come and go. Is that the happiness you seek? 1 moment in time? happiness, wealth, success isn't a destination. It's the TRACK. The WHOLE ride. The whole rollercoaster. You either like getting on rollercoasters, or you don't. You don't hate it, but get on for 1 piece of it, because it goes so fast you'll miss it anyways. Life's the same way. The joke that is funny is said, told, and laughed. Then you reflect back on it to remember...that was cool and it felt good. The kiss from a girl is only a moment, even if its 30 minutes, you may never kiss that girl again, and you'll never have THAT moment back. It's forever etched in history and your brain, only as ever having happened. Never to return. And never to be found. Never to be recaptured.

Money IS abundance. Its a piece off the ABUNDANT tree. You can't be wealthy but suck elsewhere. You can be terrible with people, but you can't be stupid about how your run your life. Even lottery winners. Sure, they get millions of dollars, but I know a lottery winner. He won 20 million. He gets 866,000 per year, before taxes. Know what he did? Foolishly...he bought a WHOLE development for his family. His house is HUGE. 2 out of 3 of his daughters live at that house. 1 has her own home with her husband. 1,000,000 home. It's nothing special either. That's just prices up here. When daddy's lottery winnings run out, she can't pay the property taxes on it to keep it. Moreover, he has sent them to practically every college in the area. What are they doing with the degree? Nothing. Waiting for prince charming. The even more sad fact is...they aren't Hot. Maybe cool, but you're talking about girls whill attract regular joes, who won't be able to give them what daddy's lottery winnings did. That's the ONLY investment this guy made. He has little liquid cash. Most of his yearly budget eats that up. He has 8 years left on this annuity. He won't be able to keep his property, let alone the one's he bought his family. Why?

Mentality. He was poor before, he's mentally poor now. Everything is consumption. His daughters are worse off than if they had the money. They will, without a doubt, BE BROKE. It's sad. The guys is nice as can be, but his wife just won't accept that the ride is over soon. And here's money. All they could use. Are they happy? Heck no. They have dough, but they personally aren't effective. They can't survive. They have no market value that would pay them 800k per year, even if they could buy ANY education in the US. It's a shame. Poor people rise up, and make 800k from nothing. And here's people getting 800k, and all the money they have in the bank...gets blown. Vacations. Toys. Maintenance. Several homes on 1 plot of land. Oh, and to be fair the father will have to give the other 2 daughters 1,000,000 each or a home of equal value. Otherwise he was UNFAIR to the younger ones. How can he do that? His budget is easily 400k, and his annual mortgages are like 150-200k, not counting utilities!

Money, given to them, but no personal worth INSIDE. No awareness. Nothing to grasp onto. Nothing to say they experienced. They did what the average american does, on a grander scale. Sure, they have some cars and bikes, but so what? I'd rather LEARN and EARN to buy it, so I can do it again and again.

Don't follow money. Follow passion. Follow you. Sure, if you're into sales, and can selling anything, go find the market that will pay you the best. But if you only like financial sales, why would you do tech sales, maybe get paid more and hate it? When you LOVE something with passion...you're resourceful, committed; it isn't work. You just want to do the best you can. And that to me is why if people follow whatever passion they have big or small, the world is perfect...because everyone has their ultimate purpose, and everyone is better off, wealthy, and happy, with people doing their best, so you get the best products/services from the best people at the best price.

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