I want to be the TOP DOG, the Pack Leader

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

I realise this is a good trait for some people. Some people choose to be kings some choose to be peasants.

If your plane or ship crash lands into an remote island. Who would you be? Coconut-gatherer? Fisherman? Berry-b1tch? Or the one sitting on top of all the supplies, food, women and weapons?

I am slowly working my way up. I dont quite know where I am but here are some of the things I have done in order to get there.

Literature: 48 Laws of Power, Way of the superior Man, Playersupreme stuff. Self-esteem books.

Physical Training: Muay Thai, Weight training, Rugby Union, Boxing

Position of Power: Jobs doing Security, Bartending, Paintball. Recently became president of college.

By these I don't mean bossing people around, hogging all the good stuff. abusing what little position of power you have.

I want to be that guy who everyone looks up to. Like if I can't do it nobody can. Fearless, confident and aggressive while generous, kind and loving at times.

At the moment I have some kind of "ranking" up the ladder at my college. Working on some kind of reputation and respect from everyone. Leadership, organisation and charisma are some of the things I wam working on.

I think is this the one thing I could strive to do. My meaning, purpose, my calling.

Somehow I don't feel complete being the peasant.


What do you want to be?

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Please provide constructive feedback, opinions and other useful advice you have.

Even tell (*brag*) us about you rise to higher status. I would like to read up on your background.

 

[BustedKnucks]

When I was in elementary school I was a little pudgy, shy, picked on, and lacking self-esteem. As soon as I hit Jr. High and was introduced to interscholastic sports, I learned how easy you could better yourself but putting effort into what you do. Before that point, my only interest was doing nerdy things like all my homework, getting straight A's, and playing nintendo. After seeing success in 7th grade football, going from 3rd string to a starter by working my ass off, I decided to bust my own balls doing things that interested me. I became a completely different person as I grew up, much more physical, aggresive, confrontational, and arrogant. The trade-off, I used drastically less time to concentrate on school, my grades slipped to barely average, I intimidated and alienated old friends, and I landed myself in community college.

In my quest to be the one everyone loved, I became the one everyone loved to hate.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

I have a friend, he is a natural Alpha. Has slept with over 70 girls before the age of 18. He is only 5'5 but the most feared player in the rugby team. In a basketball game, he tells 6'4 players where to go and how it goes. He makes all that difference. He doesn't need to prove himself. Never arrogant. Never mentions what reward he should get for working hard. Never belittles people.

He allows people to shine, hardly makes anyone feel like living under his shadow. He puts others needs if they are important yet doesn't let anyone walk all over him.

He lived in an island community, the only asian kid in a black community. He hunted his own food when he was hungry. Never seated for a moment because always doing something. Fearless.

He has created a following, all on his own. He has never macked on any girls this year at all and has a bevy of girls constantly ringing him. He says theres more important things than that. He only just turned 21.

I come back to my old town and some people refuse to acknowledge me as someone who's improve. Some people still pigeon-hole me to what I used to be 10 yrs ago! They are still living in an outdate delusional sense of reality.

You get enemies. You can't win them over when they refuse your offer of truce or an act of kindness. These people will only try to destroy you.

However you should never alienate people around you, become arrogant and overly aggressive. Keep everything in your life under control. Not one area of your life defines you. It's the BIG PICTURE that paints the whole you. So never neglect other things.

I hope that helped

 

[counselor]

Leader ship is also one my of goals in life, but you should not compare your friends success to yours, every one is differnt. I think the most important thing when it comes to leadership is how you feel about your self at the end of the day. If one was just doing this for his ego then that is very bad thing and this person will never really become a true leader. A good leader is selfless, and puts others needs before his wants and ego. But I will admit I, becoming a lawyer was choice I made mostly prestiege.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Yes of course. I am doing this for my search of meaning and purpose. That I am not content with just sitting back and doing nothing.

Most of the things I am doing has rewards that come from within. From there I will see if this is my calling.

 

[BluEyes]

Hey man, post your goals up. Lets see what you plan to do this year. I'm doing the same thing. Actually you remind me alot of me. I'm always into self-improvement and getting to the top of whatever I do. I don't know whether it's talent or dedication, but whatever I apply myself to I end up being one of the best at. I say we have a little competition, for 2007 Let's post some goals and see how many we can achieve.

I too strive to be the best at whatever I do. I'm not one to celebrate mediocrity, it just isn't....me.

I really need to apply myself at some things this year if I want to have any chance at a successful career, so this might be a good idea for us.

Just some areas that we could work on:
1) Education - grades
2) Appearance
3) pullin chicks, of course
4) reading
5) jobs
6) whatever

I know I want to be at the top of the heap, and so do you.

P.S. just curious...what city r u in in qld? im on the gc

 

[KarmaSutra]

Using your LOST reference I would be more akin to the Locke character than any other. Brutally self sufficient but with a keen internal locus.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Hmmm the girls...If you are the pack leader then you get to pick your girls as there will be many girls vying for your attention (theoretically). They will want to be in the limelight of your status. If you have what it takes to be the big DOG, to stay on top, then genetically speaking the girls will want to have your genes.

Think about it. Rock slvts, groupies, footy wives. The girls, above all, want attention. They want to bathe in your limelight. Simmer in your glow. The power, the glory, the status, the authority. You are going somewhere with your life.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

BluEyes...its on, brother.

I am from Townsville. Doing uni and staying at a International College. Recently got president position to exercise this self-project. Let's see how I go.

Just some areas that we could work on:

6) whatever

* I guess we can do this. It shouldn't be hard. I am having doubts tho.

Since this is a seduction forum things like this happen.

HB: Wait! I heard you became president?
Me: Yea I cant wait to go back to college. It's gonna be mad as! I've got so many events planned out.
HB: Oh realy? Give me a call when something's happening. I betcha it will be fun.

Take charge. Have Authority. Take on responsibility. It will help growth, give you purpose, meaning.

BluEyes, I will post more of the goals. Can you do yours as well. If you want to talk pm me for msn. Its good to have a fellow DJ close to home.

 

[counselor]

Hey man, post your goals up. Lets see what you plan to do this year. I'm doing the same thing. Actually you remind me alot of me. I'm always into self-improvement and getting to the top of whatever I do. I don't know whether it's talent or dedication, but whatever I apply myself to I end up being one of the best at. I say we have a little competition, for 2007 Let's post some goals and see how many we can achieve.

I too strive to be the best at whatever I do. I'm not one to celebrate mediocrity, it just isn't....me.

I really need to apply myself at some things this year if I want to have any chance at a successful career, so this might be a good idea for us.

Just some areas that we could work on:
1) Education - grades
2) Appearance
3) pullin chicks, of course
4) reading
5) jobs
6) whatever

I know I want to be at the top of the heap, and so do you.

P.S. just curious...what city r u in in qld? im on the gc

awsome idea!!! Iv started a tread. http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=115443 So we can all help each other accomplish our goals and share what we learn.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

This thread is not just the generic self improvement project....but to go beyond that for a higher purpose and meaning.

Let me know who you feel much better and report.

 

[organizedconfusion]

you don't have enough balls,that's it.maybe one day but right now you just don't have them.Thats what you lack and that's why you look up to those other guys that do have them,nothing wrong with that but you are just setting yourself up as the beta male..putting them on a pedastal because they do sh!t that you wish you could is nothing more then putting a girl up on a pedastal..it's a waste of time and you are just selling yourself short.you can play mr.big shot right now,but what are you going to do when someone comes and pushes you over? are you going to retreat into your studies or try to figure out what do next? give me a break...you become the person at the top by going to the top yourself no matter what and you have that inner guidence and instinct to know what to do and you believe in that instinct over anything else.you think those athletes and tough rugby guys went out and took a personal survey about every action to take before they did anything? no way,they are already leading the pack and busting heads while the other guys are still making plans or deciding what to do.If you really want to be the guy on top you have to think and act like the guy on top..everything you just wrote and asked about is from the viewpoint of a guy on the bottom.the guy on top is always on top,even when he was and had nothing :rockon:

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Ok so, but I am not going to sit back and just wonder what I would have done if I didn't put myself in that position. F*ck that, brother no way.

I aint trying to play big shot, the title on the thread might say so but there is nothing wrong with taking action, taking charge and taking responsibilty. I need to find purpose and meaning. I didn't have a good childhood but nonetheless always have a little following amongst other people. I lived a sheltered life because everyone else was dying and I was the last one. Everyone was taking good care of me and making sure nothing bad happens. I was leading the pack back then and busting heads but it came to the point that my own family were pleading to me to back down because they were so scared to death of what might happen to me. Those were the days I never had fear and never backed down but I had to live a sissy life because my father died and me and my sister would get taken away from my mother if something little happened to me. F*ck that those were the most miserable years of my life just sitting down taking the easy road out of everything.

I may not be the next dictator but I am slowly starting from bottom and working my up. The level of which I say is enough is up to me. I would not become a "power-slave" like you think I am trying to be. People get consumed and live miserably.

It is time to unlearn. People didn't become good at what they did because they relied on "external" help. You see leaders had mentors, role models and heroes and it doesn't make them any weaker. I heard Winston Churchill locked himself in a room and studied for quite a while doing 18hr days reading on every tactics and strategies. Yes, so what if I looked up to someone else.

Knowledge is power. Power is knowledge. What do think will happen is you do everything in your power to be the best, to improve your ability to achieve success. Still a beta male?

I sit down and do absolutely nothing for a week and I lose purpose. I even get suicidal unless I find purpose in what I do.

You ever had the feeling where you are meant to be more than what you are doing now? You ever felt like absolutely crap when there wasn't any challenge in your life? Yes brother that is your own self telling you have to find your purpose and meaning. Otherwise do yourself a favour and exit the gene pool but leave that living, breathing carcass of yours behind. You see people all around you taking decades to actually die? Slow, miserable death. Yes you die bit by bit when you ignore that feeling of your own self calling out to you.

My friend, I would rather die a quick, single death doing what I do rather die a thousand miniature deaths doing nothing.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

How would you know you are NOT that being with a higher purpose unless you put yourself in a particular situation. How would you know I dont have what it takes?

Say, in a TV situation, "LOST"...You would just think those people were just ordinary suckers before the plane crash. Now they are in a life or death situation. Part of them sprung to life and purpose was coming out of hiding. Everyone played a part. Everyone fit in a role they wouldnt believe they could actually do. Are you a Hurley? Are you a Mr. Eko? Locke? Jack? Sayid? Sawyer? Walt's Dog?

You wouldnt know unless you are in a similar situation. You wouldnt know your purpose just sitting down doing absolute jack. Some people are quite comfortable just sitting down, dying a slow painless death. Not me.

When I say Pack Leader I dont mean the highest rank. Just small things at a time. President of College. Owning a club. Forming a social event. Taking smaller responsibility and then progressing to higher more complex responsibilty. This keeps progressively bigger, up to a level which I say is enough. I am not power-hungry but purpose driven. When I say I stop I can admit so. I can admit defeat without having to feel like a failure. All I know is that I have made an active move.

This is just like being a PUA. There are natural PUAs and there are learned PUAs. The degree of how high they wanted to go depends on what they say is enough, people who force themselves too far get all too consumed by it.

Have a look at Style, Mystery and Ross Jeffries. They were not naturals at all. They did everything in their power to get where they are now and I don't doubt anyone when they want to do the same. Would you say they are beta because they were not born alpha?

Yes I am not scared to say that sometimes I AM A SISSY BOY...but that was a learned phase and taught to me. Something that feels unnatural. But when I feel as if there is higher that I should aim for, that feeling came from within and nobody elses. I wanted to do that and it is re-surfacing.

So what if I fail along the way. So, f*ck it. At least I tried smashing my balls through obstacles and toxic people telling me I don't have it.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Organizedconfusion, you have a good point. You should make a thread about it. Seems like a good discussion.

 

[Bible_Belt]

Leadership is as much about responsibility as it is privilege. Yes, the leader of the pack eats first, but he also has to be the one to fight the stray dogs to protect the pack, maintain order among followers, and lead the way forward all the time.

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Of course, the higher the prize the higher the cost.

Ok for example, being president. I get the satisfaction and all the perks of all the events, parties, exposure and status. But the better I do the job the better these privileges get. You reap what you sow. I also have to choose a team to help me. I maintain order and allocate tasks and everything too. I lead the pack basically.

Theoretically anyways but I dont doubt I can do the task and make a name for myself.

The process is the fun part...I have done my preparation and volunteering and it gives me a sense of satisfaction, accomplishment and personal growth.

 

[CLOONEY]

Just a few comments from my studies and perceptions.

The "leader" of the pack, constantly depends on the situation and the environment. If you were stranded on a deserted Island, it would be the man with the best survival skills (building, fishing, hunting etc), that would lead the pack.

In a group of friends, its usually the guy who is the most outgoing, loudest, and also the networker, the one who keeps the group together by organising things constantly.

In a sports team, its usually the best player (or at least one of the best players) or the one with the most experience.

Confidence varies all the time, put your "alpha male" mate, in a gym with a group of big bodybuilders, he will no longer be a "leader" or an "alpha". Put him on a top soccer team, telling great players what to do, he will be laughed at. Put him in a boxing ring, coaching guys, they will soon put him in his place.

A lot comes down to experience, skills, which transfers then to confidence (add that to a bit of your self born genetics and given personality from your parents), and you have the leader of the pack.

I have always maintained, leaders are born, not made. Then again, some people are great, some people have greatness thrust upon them. Again, all comes down to the situation and the environment. Who has the skills in the area, and part of your natural genetic makeup.

I see guys who were the absoulute kingpin in school with me, the dominant male, the alpha, the chick magnet, whatever you will call them, and now they ask me for advice on a lot of things, I gain far more respect than they do. They have lost most of their respect as soon a school split up and they had to survive in the big wide world, to everyone else, they are just another face in the crowd now.

Sorry if that was a rant, not enough time to organise it, but I have studied this for a few years, and do not beleive in someone creating themself into an alpha who is the leader in all areas of their life.

One more comment, your friend has not had sex with 70 woman before he was 18. Who came down in the last shower?

 

[Rudy_TubeSteak]

Clooney thank you for taking the time to do this.

How would you know you were a born leader unless you put yourself in a situation that requires the skills of a leader. You can be born a leader and all those traits do not come out until later. As you said about the kingpins they lost their touch after school.

There is a great chance that I am not alpha, but that is not going to stop me from working hard to achieve the same accomplishment. Who knows.

The hypothetical situation the you said about my "alpha" friend...well he's done them already. Put him in a gym with big guys, he is only 5'5 but he is far stronger than most people twice his size. The big guys have complexes. The bigger guys say that he ain't sh*t. He simply says if he was as big and tall as them he would've achieve twice as much as them. He has already achieved much more than he's given credit for, and I've seen it with my own eyes.

Put him in a situation he is not familiar he will try his hardest until he fails. And when he walks out he still carries a sense of pride. No excuses. I've been best friends with him for over 5 years. I doubted him as much as everyone does, but he smashes it with actions rather that egotistic blabber.

Yea he has slept with that many women...I've seen most of the girls he's been with. I live with him no girl stays overnight for "movies" these days. No lie.

But bottom line is. I am working towards it. No matter what. I am not creating myself into an alpha, just seeing if I have what it takes by throwing myself on to challenges. Once again who knows....at least I'll achieve something by doing something 90% of this board won't do and just doubt anyone.