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Maybe you folks can help me. I have been on this forum for a couple of years now, and I have learned a lot (which I am thankful to some of you). I work almost everyday towards my long term goals, yet I am still not getting to where I want to go with regard to being a strong enough man to attract good quality women. I need to do more work, but I want some outside opinions to where to focus my energy next. I’ll list how far I have come and where I am at now:


I used to weigh 135lbs, now I weigh 155lbs

My max bench press went from 125lbs to at least 185lbs (probably more like 215lbs)

I approach with little problem if I am in the mood to, otherwise I do okay.

I can start conversations from nowhere.

I have built up much more courage, but my confidence still varies.

My cloths are still not great

I don’t flash wealth.

Etc.


What I am dealing with now is that most women that I am interested in are not interested in me, even after approaching and demonstrating sexual desire and value.


I will appreciate responses. thanks
 

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Trying too hard possibly?

Perhaps you are giving off vibes of desperation.

I think you're on the right track. Focusing on yourself is always good. Just keep improving.

How old are you may I ask?
 

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Scars said:
Trying too hard possibly?

Perhaps you are giving off vibes of desperation.

I think you're on the right track. Focusing on yourself is always good. Just keep improving.

How old are you may I ask?
26 lol

There is more to this that I can add. But I will say that I can get average women no problem, but the good ones are what I am after; I am talking about 7+'s. I mean, I suppose I can just keep on working towards my goals, become more confident, and continue putting muscle weight on. I think there is something else I am missing though. Maybe you are right, I give off vibes of desperation to attractive women without even knowing it.
 

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Plinco said:
Maybe you folks can help me. I have been on this forum for a couple of years now, and I have learned a lot (which I am thankful to some of you). I work almost everyday towards my long term goals, yet I am still not getting to where I want to go with regard to being a strong enough man to attract good quality women. I need to do more work, but I want some outside opinions to where to focus my energy next. I’ll list how far I have come and where I am at now:


I used to weigh 135lbs, now I weigh 155lbs

My max bench press went from 125lbs to at least 185lbs (probably more like 215lbs)

I approach with little problem if I am in the mood to, otherwise I do okay.

I can start conversations from nowhere.

I have built up much more courage, but my confidence still varies.

My cloths are still not great

I don’t flash wealth.

Etc.


What I am dealing with now is that most women that I am interested in are not interested in me, even after approaching and demonstrating sexual desire and value.


I will appreciate responses. thanks
Dont worry about it dude, just keep working on yourself first then the woman will come. Keep adding muscle and building yourself up. I used to weigh 165 a long time ago, I could still get girls since they thought i was cute however today im 220 pounds of muscle and girls love lookin my way ;) Just keep improving yourself.
 

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Plinco said:
I have built up much more courage, but my confidence still varies.
My cloths are still not great
I don’t flash wealth.
Sounds like you already identified the next steps.

1. Figuring out why your confidence still varies and what to do about.
2. Enhancing your wardrobe
3. Realizing that flashing wealth attracts a certain type of girl, and deciding if that's the type you are looking for.

I didn't you see you say anything about your actual understanding and application of game and how your interactions go with the women you really want. How does that usually go down when you approach a woman you really want? Game is probably the missing link in your equation. Where are you in your game?
 

Channel your excited feelings into positive thoughts and behaviors. You will attract women by being enthusiastic, radiating energy, and becoming someone who is fun to be around.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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Warrior74 said:
I didn't you see you say anything about your actual understanding and application of game and how your interactions go with the women you really want. How does that usually go down when you approach a woman you really want? Game is probably the missing link in your equation. Where are you in your game?
I am not sure how to describe that. I keep things simple. I can get a girl's attention and create some interest.

This is what I do: I approach, smile a bit, and then say something to get a conversation going. My internal state varies with what I want and what I expect to get from a girl. So if I come across some hot college girl that I don't know, my initial motivation may be sex, if there is something else there, I go with my gut.

Reactions vary. Some women have some interest, some just blow me off, and some laugh a bit (usually in this case it is a good looking woman that I approach in a sexual state).

I believe in 100% honesty, and I believe that the reactions I get are honest (except for the nuts, which I had an encounter with one recently).
 

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I want to be good at this. I should approach, approach, approach, work on my conversation skills, keep weight lifting, and work on my inner psyche with the goal of building confidence.

If I do the above and believe that I will succeed down this path, do you folks think I will achieve my goal or am I missing something?
 

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I think you should relax a little. Just the way your typing I can smell the desperation.

Relax focus ENTIRELY on YOU. Do not go out of your way to meet chicks.

If you are at the store see a very hot b!tch approach with the attitude of hey your hot I wanna fvck you. If she rejects who fvcking cares? you've been working on improving your self so much you feel like your the sh!t.
 

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Sounds like you aren't getting girls like you want to be.

Confidence comes from success. The more you get the more you will get. Some things you can only really learn from experience.

Sometimes you need to throw yourself in the deep end and learn the fast way. Approaching and pulling girls will teach you more than any amount of meditating or reading you can do.
 

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I am pretty much done with the reading. Throwing myself into the deep end is most of what I do now as far as the right now kind of action.

I have a feeling that I do come off as desperate, and that is probably F***ing me up to some extent. I am very, very motivated to succeed in everything I do, maybe that is what you are reading.

and yes, I do go out of my way to meet chicks. I work fast throughout the day so that I have time to do this. I want to be good at this. like. yesterday. Maybe if I just approach more often, I will get better faster.
 

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OamImrsNemo said:
If you are at the store see a very hot b!tch approach with the attitude of hey your hot I wanna fvck you. If she rejects who fvcking cares? you've been working on improving your self so much you feel like your the sh!t.
This is exactly what I do. This is actually what keeps building my motivation in this area.
 

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Plinco said:
I am not sure how to describe that. I keep things simple. I can get a girl's attention and create some interest.

This is what I do: I approach, smile a bit, and then say something to get a conversation going. My internal state varies with what I want and what I expect to get from a girl. So if I come across some hot college girl that I don't know, my initial motivation may be sex, if there is something else there, I go with my gut.

Reactions vary. Some women have some interest, some just blow me off, and some laugh a bit (usually in this case it is a good looking woman that I approach in a sexual state).
Some laugh a bit? As in laughing at you or with you? So you can approach and start a convo....where does it go wrong with the ones that have "some interest?"

You have to work through your whole game and see whats up.



Plinco said:
I believe in 100% honesty, and I believe that the reactions I get are honest (except for the nuts, which I had an encounter with one recently).
What exactly does 100% honest mean? Are you killing all the mystery by giving everything away upfront? Explain this.
 

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The above DJ's made some good points and suggestions. I believe it was warrior that said "enhance your wardrope". When I was financially broke, I went to thrift stores (volunteers of america) and found some decent clothes at a fractional price.
For me, If i am wearing decent looking clothes, looking good (take your time-no bad hair days, LOL), and smelling good (this is important!), my confidence is boosted. (This includes shoes. I prefer boots many times). Then.. I am more aggressive and henceforth successful.
So get some decent clothes, cologne, and a good haircut. Shave carefully, look crisp. Head up, smile... radiate CONFIDENCE
 

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Most girls are not
going to be interested in most men who make advances at them. If you are talking about trying to hook up with some girl you met at a bar, it is shown that relationships rarely come from bar encounters. If it's girls you know that aren't interested in you, maybe they just see you as a friend, well you have to
get more in tune with what they want in a guy. It is not hard to get a date with a
girl that is single and enjoys your company and friendship.
 

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Warrior74 said:
What exactly does 100% honest mean? Are you killing all the mystery by giving everything away upfront? Explain this.
I like to keep things as simple, but I do tease women sometimes.

I appreciate the input. I wish I could give you folks something in return.

Actually I think I am on the right path; I am not missing anything to my initiatives.

I do better every week on the things I do overall.
 

You essentially upped your VALUE in her eyes by showing her that, if she wants you, she has to at times do things that you like to do. You are SOMETHING after all. You are NOT FREE. If she wants to hang with you, it's going to cost her something — time, effort, money.

Quote taken from The SoSuave Guide to Women and Dating, which you can read for FREE.

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lynch1000s said:
Most girls are not
going to be interested in most men who make advances at them. If you are talking about trying to hook up with some girl you met at a bar, it is shown that relationships rarely come from bar encounters. If it's girls you know that aren't interested in you, maybe they just see you as a friend, well you have to
get more in tune with what they want in a guy. It is not hard to get a date with a
girl that is single and enjoys your company and friendship.
This is not the issue.
 

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Pump up those guns (biceps). A good heavy dumbell curl to failure routine 3x per week will start adding bulk in a matter of 2 months. Wear high/short sleeve polos to accentualte them. It will give you a more youthful thletic look. Start today!
 

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That most women that I am interested in are not interested in me.
Women totally own the relationship and social game. They live by it, it's as important as air for them. They know the game upside down and inside out. You have no chance of winning in their own setting,s you're pitting yourself against Kasparovs of the game. Just ****ign crack it. Hack the game, don't play it.
 

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Plinco said:
I like to keep things as simple, but I do tease women sometimes.

I appreciate the input. I wish I could give you folks something in return.

Actually I think I am on the right path; I am not missing anything to my initiatives.

I do better every week on the things I do overall.
Clear as mud. Apparently you have it all in hand this post was just a hiccup.
 
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