I think I understand how women feel about doormats

[49au]

why do you bring up other girls in front of her though? That is textbook HPD.

I've primarily done it when she's tried to make me jealous of other guys.

I remember one time I called her while she was at a bar, and she told me that the bartender wanted to fuk her. I said something like "I totally think you should go home with him, I have a pretty nice piece of ass lined up tonight too." Stuff like that.




ArcBound gets it. The whole point of this thread was to illustrate how I can kind of get what women feel when a guy lets them walk all over him. It's not that women are evil or malicious, they're just human and will take advantage of weakness to further themselves. We all do it.

 

[perseverance]

We all do it.

No, "we" most certainly do not.

It is unequivocal that some people will often exploit people for further gain, but to suggest that every human being does it is plain wrong.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

yeah, i hate the standards, traits, expectations women have of us men

 

[st_99]

there isn't really any new grown broken here. its been said repeatedly in the psychology world that we teach people how to treat us.

 

[sighsigh]

I've loved women before and would never dream of treating those women the way I do her.

I certainly hope so.

But I don't know if I believe you. The true character of a person is revealed by how he treats his lessers. Not his equals.

 

[TopGun2000]

I certainly hope so.

But I don't know if I believe you. The true character of a person is revealed by how he treats his lessers. Not his equals.

I agree with you 100%

 

[Single4Life]

Any relationship with her will fail because the "attraction" is based on manipulation and her insecurity.

 

[cablecow15]

WOW , im amazed at how much afcish comments are going on here. Those of you think that hes doing something wrong need to put your white knight armor up and grow a pair.

If anything hes just giving her her own medicine , she brags about guys , he brags about girls , she whines and complains about how bad he is , hes smooth enough to f$$k her brains out despite all the bullcrap shes spewing .

when us men do this we end up with sex , when women do it they end up with orbiters. how do you not see how normal it is , it may not be normal for men , because so many of them are afc's and dont have the balls to give girls their own medicine.

Women are victimized enough in our society as it is , now your gonna say when one man has to balls to do the exact same and tell us about it on a forum dedicated to self improvement , that your going to patronize him and tell him he has disorders because he wont bend over to this woman's crap and get jealous like she wants ?

open your eyes people

 

[cablecow15]

There's this guy I've had in my life for over 2 years now. I mind fvck him off and on. he lives about 3 hours away.

Anyway, I've treated this guy like absolute dog sh!t. I'm not bragging about it, I'm just telling you how it is.

I've rejected him countless times.

I had him drive down and stay with me for NYE, the whole time asking me why he isn't my bf, but letting me talk about my horrible bf anyway.

I've told him I don't take him seriously.

I treat him like a therapist.

I've told him about other men I've slept with or want to sleep with, while laying on a couch with him.

I've done so much hot/cold on him that I think his mind is completely fvcked.

I'm sitting here right now texting him indirect sexual comments, and despite him throwing a fit about how he has a gf now and I need to respect that - he just keeps responding.

Every time I reject him, I stay silent for a few months, then come back and start talking to him again. Each time its taken a little longer to get his guard down, but it always works.

This guy is a doormat, he satisfies some dark side of my psyche. I've loved men before and would never dream of treating those men the way I do him. Why do you think it is that I'm like this with him?

Just because he lets me.


Just an observation.

I did some editing to show how the situation would be with a girl doing this to a guy , it seems a lot more familiar and acceptable now doesn't it ?

 

[Gray The Prince]

I did some editing to show how the situation would be with a girl doing this to a guy , it seems a lot more familiar and acceptable now doesn't it ?

I logged in just to rep you

 

[cablecow15]

Appreciate it man , glad to see some people get it

 

[MisterD]

WOW , im amazed at how much afcish comments are going on here. Those of you think that hes doing something wrong need to put your white knight armor up and grow a pair.

If anything hes just giving her her own medicine , she brags about guys , he brags about girls , she whines and complains about how bad he is , hes smooth enough to f$$k her brains out despite all the bullcrap shes spewing .

when us men do this we end up with sex , when women do it they end up with orbiters. how do you not see how normal it is , it may not be normal for men , because so many of them are afc's and dont have the balls to give girls their own medicine.

Women are victimized enough in our society as it is , now your gonna say when one man has to balls to do the exact same and tell us about it on a forum dedicated to self improvement , that your going to patronize him and tell him he has disorders because he wont bend over to this woman's crap and get jealous like she wants ?

open your eyes people

When women do this, we bash them, as we should.

If he's doing the same thing, he's going to get bashed. Obviously some of the responses in here prove that point.

This is not a female/male situation. This is a matter of character

Whenever either sex, treats others like **** for personal pleasure and gain, it's ****ed up.

He's not being a "man" by treating her this way.

Men are supposed to have honor, and respect. Not just for themselves but for others.

If you need to mind **** women in order to sleep with them, something isn't right.

I'm not defending the chick either, as she has her own issues she needs to take care of. But I wouldn't exploit it for sex, I would erase her from my life and move on to a healthier chick and form a healthier relationship.

That's just me personally

Sometimes you just have to be a good person.

 

[TonyBaloney]

I dont care what you say to try and worm your way to looking like a good guy, but your not, your unwell - I think you have mental health issues that you have got from an unhappy childhood.

Can I ask about your parents marriage?

I have messed around with alot of girls - but I would have logged that this girl needed help and would have declined her, and directed her towards a clinician. Yeah she would still have wanted me to f uck her a rse still and would have offered me anything (i had exactly this situation)

But who is the stronger man - the one who takes advantage of a girl who obviously weak, or the one who walks away (even though he needs poon) and trys to advise and help the girl?

Do yourself a favour for the future - send her a mail telling her its an unhealthy situation, and that she should seek help.

Or are you that weak inside that you wanna see someone poorly suffer?

 

[Halcyonique]

OP, you come across as a thoroughly revolting, damaged, cruel person, with deep-seated psychological problems.
And worse, you seem almost smugly proud of the way you're treating this person. I suggest you get some self-awareness about your behaviour, your desires to treat this woman like this, and see a psychiatrist.

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

basically, women want the top 10 or 5 percent of men, but most of us men are okay with the top 50 percent of women

 

[TonyBaloney]

basically, women want the top 10 or 5 percent of men, but most of us men are okay with the top 50 percent of women

I think thats the most inappropriate comment i've ever seen = are you stoned and are sitting there bug eyed in a dream like state thinking about another post??????

Anyway, W T F is this `stepford` wife like approach to repeating unproven Nismonegative statements? There is absolutely no proof that women want the top 5-10 percent - whoever they are. I'm daily gettin fed up with idiots like the OP and this drone.

Get a life or buy a v agina

 

[cablecow15]

you all keep saying shes damaged , or has mental problems , but half of you at least have been walked on like this by women,does that make you damaged? its the main reason why people come here.

you have no right to call the op such names , give one example of something that hes done that's "oh so cruel" the worst thing he did , and i use that term loosely , is talk about another girl her forked , and even then he didnt go into detail or anything vulgar

you all acting like hes just staring her down and calling her a fat ugly slvt while making her watch porn he made with another girl

long story short , if you keep your noble high and mighty let me hold the door for the lady mindset your never gonna change from the sad guy that came to this site in the firstplace

am i saying you have to stand up to a woman? no , but by all means don't turn on someone who has the balls to do so

 

[Ihateinitiatingalot7]

I think thats the most inappropriate comment i've ever seen = are you stoned and are sitting there bug eyed in a dream like state thinking about another post??????

Anyway, W T F is this `stepford` wife like approach to repeating unproven Nismonegative statements? There is absolutely no proof that women want the top 5-10 percent - whoever they are. I'm daily gettin fed up with idiots like the OP and this drone.

Get a life or buy a v agina

i'm saying that women have higher standards, more expectations, are more picky and choosy than men are

 

[cablecow15]

When women do this, we bash them, as we should.

If he's doing the same thing, he's going to get bashed. Obviously some of the responses in here prove that point.

This is not a female/male situation. This is a matter of character

Whenever either sex, treats others like **** for personal pleasure and gain, it's ****ed up.

He's not being a "man" by treating her this way.

Men are supposed to have honor, and respect. Not just for themselves but for others.

If you need to mind **** women in order to sleep with them, something isn't right.

I'm not defending the chick either, as she has her own issues she needs to take care of. But I wouldn't exploit it for sex, I would erase her from my life and move on to a healthier chick and form a healthier relationship.

That's just me personally

Sometimes you just have to be a good person.

the only thing the responses prove , is how little faith any of us should put in the advice we get off these forums

 

[TonyBaloney]

I would agree completely.

The trouble is here, that is all about trying to prove something when they havent had the experience of life.

Many arent even raconteuers. Its all insecure little boys looking for a big bro or buddy to tell them what to do or reward them for being a player.

Very disappointed at the downward spiral of posts.