****READ THE ABOVE BOYS****
This quote right here will completely destroy everything you've said about asking women on how to attract other women. Well guess what? You just clearly stated how you dated the stereotypical 'bad boy' type. You know, the type that women say they hate but keep falling for. This is the man that women JUST LIKE YOU will tell us not to be like, and that we should instead be super sweet, nice, caring individuals because that's the type of guys you like. But as everyone here knows, that does NOT work. Being a nice guy will get you friendzoned and no woman will fall for you. And if women JUST LIKE YOU say to be nice guys instead of bad boys, then why is it that of all the stories you choose to tell of men that you've dated, it's the one who was that same type?
Don't take this as a personal attack or anything, but this is why we say not to take advice from a woman about other women. Because even though you are your own female self, you've still analyzed women wrong.
Another thing: the men who came here did so not for RELATIONSHIPS. After being here for several years, I can say that in fact MOST of the men who are here remain because they want to get better with WOMEN in general. Keyword: women. Not woman. Most of us would rather be sleeping with multiple women at a time rather than be stuck with just one single woman.
One last point I have to make, is that I think that you need to read some of the horror stories first before making a generalizing assumption for everyone on here. What we say and how we perceive women to be is NOT negative, it is REALITY. There is no polarization of it being good or bad, only you decide. Most of what we say on here about women is true, and the fact that your initial knee-jerk response about it is that it is negative just shows that somewhere along the way, society messed up the image of how women are supposed to be like. Either that, or the entire female gender as a whole actually IS fvcked up beyond all recognition (pinging
@Tenacity ; looks like Plums might indirectly admitting that women ARE messed up). You see how all of us saying 'negative' things about women bothers you? Now try being on the receiving end of this. This bothers you so much because you yourself, AS A
PERSON, find it morally wrong and think "no woman would ever do this, or if they do, it is a rarity". However, you AS A WOMAN will use emotional rationalization through extreme cognitive dissonance saying how it is the man's fault for you cheating on him somehow. No matter what, you will find a way to shift the blame. Again, that is you as a female. But as a person you say it is wrong. This is where us men get bothered by women, because your logic clearly tells you that you are wrong, but emotion are much more intense than logic so you listen to what you FEEL more than what you KNOW is right. Do you see how I was able to determine all of that by what you are saying right now? Most men CANNOT decipher all of this like how I just have, and it is these same men who have trouble with women as well, or as you put it, "don't have a clue". But what about the men who DO have 'a clue'? Guys such as the ones on this forum? The reason why most men don't have a clue is because men are direct. When you say one thing, we take it as you mean it that way and mean nothing else by it. What do I mean? Well for example, a man will tell another man "there is no more toilet paper in the bathroom" and the other man will say "okay thank you for letting me know". Simple enough, right? Well a woman will say the same thing as the first man, but what she really means is "get some more toilet paper". That's the difference I am talking about. Men aren't able to read between the lines as well like women. Most men anyway. The men on this forum are able to though, and when we talk about women again, we translate it back into the language of men so that we can better understand it. When we retranslate it back, you think it is still in the language of women, and as such you interpret it as negative because you are reading it with society's moralistic expectations behind it. We as men really aren't doing that, not to nearly the extent of women. This definitely does bare the something in mind being whether women are bad or is it what society is saying that's a bad misrepresentation?
Anyway, I have a question for you Plums, why are you here? What are your intentions? What do you gain from being here?
