man you keep using her culture as an excuse. Hate to tell you but women are mostly the same all over the world. Sure she might not make out with you in public but she would definitely be showing signs of interest and she doesn't sound like she is at all. Your taking little things like her apologizing and making them out to be some grand gesture when in reality their nothing (she probably thinks your really pissed at her and doesn't want to lose you as a FRIEND ). Your way too desperate about this girl, why? Why is she so special? She sounds like a lot of aggravation with all her "testing". Try and kiss her if you want (won't go over well) but don't make any of these mistakes with the next girl.
I think I just got put in the friend zone :(
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HAHAHAH.. we just went to see a movie and as soon as we sat down.. i put my arm around her and she lean her head toward my chest...
in the middle of the movie, i kiss her on the cheek while she held my arm..
we then went out for ice cream and she stared at me asking me about marriage, kids, family, and all this crap while i stare off into space.. she kino like crazy..
then on the way to her house.. i lean in and kissed her in the cheek again.. she liked it.. then wanted to spend more time together so we stop by a grocery store to buy her something.. as we walked out n i walked her to her car.. lean in and kiss her again..
a couple minute ago.. she just called me.. but i dont feel like answering just yet..
sure you guys are saying.. PFFT a kiss on a cheek mean nothing, but to this girl its something. you guys still probably think im in the FZ but i know damn well we're gonna be a couple pretty soon. ^^
in the middle of the movie, i kiss her on the cheek while she held my arm..
we then went out for ice cream and she stared at me asking me about marriage, kids, family, and all this crap while i stare off into space.. she kino like crazy..
then on the way to her house.. i lean in and kissed her in the cheek again.. she liked it.. then wanted to spend more time together so we stop by a grocery store to buy her something.. as we walked out n i walked her to her car.. lean in and kiss her again..
a couple minute ago.. she just called me.. but i dont feel like answering just yet..
sure you guys are saying.. PFFT a kiss on a cheek mean nothing, but to this girl its something. you guys still probably think im in the FZ but i know damn well we're gonna be a couple pretty soon. ^^
sorry buddy, still doubt it. Still sounds like she just likes you as a friend. That all reminds me of the interactions I had with the girl I had oneitis for. And guess what, she only liked me as a friend. Personally I would look elsewhere but we both know you won't so good luck. And one little piece of advice, stop *****footing around and kiss her on the lips, you'll know then and there whether she's interested or not (especially if she's a conservative girl like you claim).
This is why I never let myself develop one-itis. I make my approach and if things go well I go for the kiss within an hour. If she isn't reciprocating, i'll leave it as she isn't worth my time and I can then move on without any problems. Learnt from experience. I hate to say it but if you've spent more than 48 worth of time around a girl without tounging her,It's not gonna go anywhere serious.
My advice: (pretty much what most people have already put down)
Either:
Move in for tongues. She likes it? Theres a half chance she might sleep with you (at this late in the day, you would have had a better chance if you tried for tongues within first hour of meeting). She's not avin it? - well atleast you can get closure and move on.
Or move on without trying.
Stop chasing women with that much effort, it's not worth your time. it just reeks of sadness and bum-licking.
And another thing girls don't get an opportunity to put me in the friend zone becuase they've either rejected me outright or have now got intimate within a small time frame. (although I will appreciate friendship).
Like I said if my escalations (attempts at being intimate) haven't been succesful within a short time span I lose patients and just move on.
My advice: (pretty much what most people have already put down)
Either:
Move in for tongues. She likes it? Theres a half chance she might sleep with you (at this late in the day, you would have had a better chance if you tried for tongues within first hour of meeting). She's not avin it? - well atleast you can get closure and move on.
Or move on without trying.
Stop chasing women with that much effort, it's not worth your time. it just reeks of sadness and bum-licking.
And another thing girls don't get an opportunity to put me in the friend zone becuase they've either rejected me outright or have now got intimate within a small time frame. (although I will appreciate friendship).
Like I said if my escalations (attempts at being intimate) haven't been succesful within a short time span I lose patients and just move on.
Like a lot of the other posters have already stated, it looks like you're suffering from a bit of oneitis. (I have been for a while as well) and it's normal. She's finally giving you signs but you need to be more of a challenge and escalate.
It's your life and your business but from what you told us, you were in the friend zone and you might still be. She may hold your hand and let you kiss her but that doesn't automatically mean that she's interested in beginning a relationship with you. My advice? If you want to continue to date her and become exclusive, escalate and be more of a challenge; Be less available and have other women in your life. Oneitis isn't exactly a good thing, but it can be when the girl returns the favor.
It's your life and your business but from what you told us, you were in the friend zone and you might still be. She may hold your hand and let you kiss her but that doesn't automatically mean that she's interested in beginning a relationship with you. My advice? If you want to continue to date her and become exclusive, escalate and be more of a challenge; Be less available and have other women in your life. Oneitis isn't exactly a good thing, but it can be when the girl returns the favor.
this girl told me she's in love with me!! haha. i finally got her to open up. took so dam much work but i finally found her true feeling for me. i've been testing her interest level by telling her to call me and such when its not even her turn to call me.. not only that but shes been buying me small things.. paying for dinners..dressing up for me, starting to look sexy every time we meet at school.. told me that im the only guy in her heart and that if any guy tries to ask her out, she'll tell them no! im not done testing her yet.. she said once this semester is over which is in 2 weeks.. she'll let me know if we're official since i got some crap on my side that need to be straighten out before she's 100% sure im trust worthy and all that crap.. haha..like i've said guys.. I GOT THIS GIRL IN THE BAG!!! from FZ to HOMERUN soon.. BET ON IT!! eventhough is girl is very very conservative.. but you guys don't beleive that, but its kool..
drove her out yesterday and then dropped her off, she then asked me if im going anywhere once i drop her off, i said ye im going out.. so as soon as i dropped her off, she called her friend and went straight to the mall thinking that i will go there.. so she called me up n tried to get me to tell the truth by saying she saw me at the mall.. i LOL and said i was never at the mall after i dropped her off.. i said stop lying n jealous!
so after that i went out for a little... when i got home, leave my cell at home and checked my email, and found some other girl wanted to meet up with me, so i went out and this other girl is obsessed with me but the girl seem psycho path kinda girl so i aint gonna talk to her no more.. when i got back home.. the girl i've been trying to game call me 3 times.. HAHAHA.. asking me where i've been and if i've been with other girls.. i lied and said no.. i was out for a walk.. she knows im lying cuz when we go out, she sees other girls staring at me.. she says if she ever catches me with some other girls i'm done! i told her that will never happen, i know my ways around this area. HAHAHA..
P.S yes i was suffering from ONE-itis.. but now.. NO MORE WOOHOO!!! she wanted me to meet up with her today, but i told her straight up i got stuff to do and maybe next time.. she got mad n crap but w/e.. in the end of the day, she'll call and tell me how much she misses me and asks me to go out for dinner or some crap..im glad i didn't take most of you guys post seriously or else i would have been done by now.. no offense.. HAHAHA.
drove her out yesterday and then dropped her off, she then asked me if im going anywhere once i drop her off, i said ye im going out.. so as soon as i dropped her off, she called her friend and went straight to the mall thinking that i will go there.. so she called me up n tried to get me to tell the truth by saying she saw me at the mall.. i LOL and said i was never at the mall after i dropped her off.. i said stop lying n jealous!
so after that i went out for a little... when i got home, leave my cell at home and checked my email, and found some other girl wanted to meet up with me, so i went out and this other girl is obsessed with me but the girl seem psycho path kinda girl so i aint gonna talk to her no more.. when i got back home.. the girl i've been trying to game call me 3 times.. HAHAHA.. asking me where i've been and if i've been with other girls.. i lied and said no.. i was out for a walk.. she knows im lying cuz when we go out, she sees other girls staring at me.. she says if she ever catches me with some other girls i'm done! i told her that will never happen, i know my ways around this area. HAHAHA..
P.S yes i was suffering from ONE-itis.. but now.. NO MORE WOOHOO!!! she wanted me to meet up with her today, but i told her straight up i got stuff to do and maybe next time.. she got mad n crap but w/e.. in the end of the day, she'll call and tell me how much she misses me and asks me to go out for dinner or some crap..im glad i didn't take most of you guys post seriously or else i would have been done by now.. no offense.. HAHAHA.
You've known her how long and you haven't even kissed her on the lips... you're already thinking of being "official". It's not even close to "in the bag" man... you're setting yourself up to fall really hard when you find out that you weren't aggressive enough. And, what the hell are you thinking not listening to her when she's talking about her dreams and aspirations? You seriously need to listen to every word so you can use it for future dates... you're not married to this chick, everything she says matters in the early stages of the relationship.
I'm not going to say you were ever put in the friend zone, but you were and still are dangerously close, and if you don't step it up you're going to get put there permanently.
I'm not going to say you were ever put in the friend zone, but you were and still are dangerously close, and if you don't step it up you're going to get put there permanently.
im disgusted with some of you people posts.. its like you guys dont believe there are girls out there who dont kiss on the lips that early.. shes made it very clear she wants to take it slow and that her ex boyfriend didnt even kiss her at all.. he only got to hold her hand and he was like a baby with a toy in his hand.. hahaha..
a part of me think this is BS.. and the other part think shes telling the truth cuz she told me about her past and how her family had tough times n all this crap.
i will be more aggressive but just not right now.. and im 100% i will never be in the FZ as of right now. i dont know why but when i was getting to know her i changed to a nice and sweet guy.. but after we went on a couple dates.. i didn't care what she think of me and showed her my real side.. that side is which lot of guys do.. drinks, hang with friends, chase girls etc.. she knows that and she said shes willing to have to accept that! i feel that i already have this girl just a matter of time until i kiss her on the lips.. i dont know how many times i gotta tell you guys that this girl is very freaking FOB.. but then you ppl go and ye OK.. BS all girls are the same blah blah..
let say she put me in the FZ permanently which i doubt atleast i got all the $ i've been spending on her back! HAHAHAHA.. . but on the serious note.. the only way for her to put me back in the FZ is if she catches me with some other girl or she'll hate me forever..
a part of me think this is BS.. and the other part think shes telling the truth cuz she told me about her past and how her family had tough times n all this crap.
i will be more aggressive but just not right now.. and im 100% i will never be in the FZ as of right now. i dont know why but when i was getting to know her i changed to a nice and sweet guy.. but after we went on a couple dates.. i didn't care what she think of me and showed her my real side.. that side is which lot of guys do.. drinks, hang with friends, chase girls etc.. she knows that and she said shes willing to have to accept that! i feel that i already have this girl just a matter of time until i kiss her on the lips.. i dont know how many times i gotta tell you guys that this girl is very freaking FOB.. but then you ppl go and ye OK.. BS all girls are the same blah blah..
let say she put me in the FZ permanently which i doubt atleast i got all the $ i've been spending on her back! HAHAHAHA..
. but on the serious note.. the only way for her to put me back in the FZ is if she catches me with some other girl or she'll hate me forever..Kevin Feng
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There's an interesting tactic that I learned from Johnny Wolf who works with the ABC's of Attraction.
Instead of taking girls out to dinner, why not invite them back to your place and offer to cook them dinner, isn't that so much better.
The most awkward time is asking a girl back to your place, so why not just skip that step and just start there to begin with.
Offer to cook her dinner, tell her she can bring the wine, and viola, she's back at your place a little tipsy, much easier to close out than the former situation.
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Instead of taking girls out to dinner, why not invite them back to your place and offer to cook them dinner, isn't that so much better.
The most awkward time is asking a girl back to your place, so why not just skip that step and just start there to begin with.
Offer to cook her dinner, tell her she can bring the wine, and viola, she's back at your place a little tipsy, much easier to close out than the former situation.
-Kevin
Almost every girl on the planet will let you kiss her on the lips within 3 dates if she likes you that way... a VAST majority will not be turned off by it on the first date.
Believe whatever you want, but most of these guys are spot on. My current GF is a very shy girl who blushes easily and I even kissed her on the first date... and made out on the second. Hey I'm not gonna say 100% that you don't know what's going on, but we've heard your tale a million times over... Nice boy in his late teens or early 20's falls for a girl, treats her too much like a princess, doesn't make any moves out of "respect" and slowly but surely gets a permanent place on the friends ladder. It almost always results in a serious crash.
Believe whatever you want, but most of these guys are spot on. My current GF is a very shy girl who blushes easily and I even kissed her on the first date... and made out on the second. Hey I'm not gonna say 100% that you don't know what's going on, but we've heard your tale a million times over... Nice boy in his late teens or early 20's falls for a girl, treats her too much like a princess, doesn't make any moves out of "respect" and slowly but surely gets a permanent place on the friends ladder. It almost always results in a serious crash.
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mothballs said:
Totally agree. If a girl is actually interested she might turn you down at first, but you can turn that around in a couple hours with her. If she's not interested, then just move on. And this is coming from a guy that lives in China. Culture is not an excuse.
I GOT GOOD NEWS GOOD NEWS!!!! HAHAHAH
a couple days back we went out and then later talked on the phone, she started crying cuz one of her friends likes me, so she got mad and said she dont wanna talk to me ever again.. so i decided to meet up..
we met up today and we talked and stuff and then somehow she caught me lying cuz i accidently slipped my words and she found out i have been dating other girls. she flipped out and said she wanted to go home now!!
i stopped and find a quiet spot and explained to her some bs. she finally gave in and everything went back to normal. I WENT IN FOR THE KISS ON THE LIPS.. she hit me on the shoulder and said to me why did you do that with a smile on her face.
long story short, we then went for a drive and a drink. later that night i drove her home and we parked in a dark alley. i went in for a total of 10 kisses on her lips.. i just kissed her and then back off for a little and then talked. and then move in again and lay another one on her.. she liked it.
her parents started calling for her, i said stay for a little more, she said yes. so i just kept kissing her and she kept leaning in. as it was getting too late, i said to her, lean in and kiss me.. first she hesistated and i said to her it's ok. she leaned in and kiss me. we made out for atleast 1 minute in the car before she got out.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHA.... I GOT THIS GIRL!!!! now i need to move to the bases.. ^^
P.S as i kissed her on the lips the first time, i thought back what the people who said i need to kiss her on the lips before its too late!!! SO I DID JUST THAT!! I KISSED HER!! ^^
a couple days back we went out and then later talked on the phone, she started crying cuz one of her friends likes me, so she got mad and said she dont wanna talk to me ever again.. so i decided to meet up..
we met up today and we talked and stuff and then somehow she caught me lying cuz i accidently slipped my words and she found out i have been dating other girls. she flipped out and said she wanted to go home now!!
i stopped and find a quiet spot and explained to her some bs. she finally gave in and everything went back to normal. I WENT IN FOR THE KISS ON THE LIPS.. she hit me on the shoulder and said to me why did you do that with a smile on her face.
long story short, we then went for a drive and a drink. later that night i drove her home and we parked in a dark alley. i went in for a total of 10 kisses on her lips.. i just kissed her and then back off for a little and then talked. and then move in again and lay another one on her.. she liked it.
her parents started calling for her, i said stay for a little more, she said yes. so i just kept kissing her and she kept leaning in. as it was getting too late, i said to her, lean in and kiss me.. first she hesistated and i said to her it's ok. she leaned in and kiss me. we made out for atleast 1 minute in the car before she got out.
HAHAHAHHAAHAHHAHA.... I GOT THIS GIRL!!!! now i need to move to the bases.. ^^
P.S as i kissed her on the lips the first time, i thought back what the people who said i need to kiss her on the lips before its too late!!! SO I DID JUST THAT!! I KISSED HER!! ^^
Hey congrats! I'm glad everything worked out for you. Hope you guys have fun being together!
To me there are two different ways that you get it on with a girl:
1. You can just walk up to the girl and start all the sexual tension and if there is at least one sign that she isn't interested, then you just give up and move on.
Quick and easy.
2. (What you did) Just be friends with her for some time and then eventually she begins to become attracted to you if you show interest to her. This usually takes months or maybe years! Very risky but hey guess you had good luck!
Again congrats!
To me there are two different ways that you get it on with a girl:
1. You can just walk up to the girl and start all the sexual tension and if there is at least one sign that she isn't interested, then you just give up and move on.
Quick and easy.
2. (What you did) Just be friends with her for some time and then eventually she begins to become attracted to you if you show interest to her. This usually takes months or maybe years! Very risky but hey guess you had good luck!
Again congrats!
