I think I hit rock bottom today

[Someyungguy]

I think I hit rock bottom today.


So, here I am at work. It was a so-so day. I have two hours to go and I know that this gorgeous HB10 will soon arrive. Just her and I for my last two hours(we're both 20). I can't wait to try some DJ moves on her, but I also just love talking to her. Honestly, I really felt that I was getting somewhere. One year ago, a girl like this wouldn't even give me the time of day. Fortunately, I have since got nice clothes, changed my hair, gained some muscle and changed my personality quite a bit(or so I thought). I worked with this girl a little bit over the course of three months, but I never really said much because I basically thought I would never have a chance with her. Lately she started to come on to me. She was touching me on my legs, rubbing me and even a little hug once. She freakin bought me food one day! I was so stoked. I thought "wow, I could actually see myself dating this girl." Things were going great. We were working together more and more often and we always took our breaks together, etc. I was getting pretty into her and I was sure she was digging me. She had broken up with her boyfriend of a few years about a month before we got talkin more and he wasn't speaking to her. That is atleast what l knew.
So she comes in, we talk for a bit. Then she starts to lay it down. She tells me about her birthday party she had over the weekend. I will always remember the way she said the following to me.

She says "should I tell you the story?" to herself.
-Then she looks me right up and down (with the coldest look ever) and says "yeah, I'm going to tell you the story."
-I knew something bad was going to happen. It was like she was checking, "is he really a man?...no. He's like a girlfriend to me. I'll tell him the story then."
-She tells the story and as she's talking my stomach is starting to drop.
"There was us girls and then the guys came later."
-She's telling me about how first someone sent her flowers, then free drinks and then a lady came up and dropped a note off.
"It said not to tell anyone, just get up and walk away from the table and go around the corner of the building."
-I wasn't saying much except for "right" and "uh-huh" throughout the story. Not even listening as I felt sicker and sicker.
"Well...guess what Jay?" she says.
"Adam was standing right there waiting to suprise me. See he said he was going to New York, but he wasn't leaving till the next day! Naturally, I jumped him right there. He's amazing!"

I almost threw-up right there. Unbelievable! Incredible! She's trying to tell me about her fvcking boyfriend? I don't fvcking care about you and your perfect boyfriend! She was fvcking with me! At that point she was blushing and was like "oh, he's the best" all caught up in herself. I seriously just got up and said "Yeah...nice...I've got to go put these away." I didn't even talk to her, say good-bye or anything. I was so angry I wanted cry...or to kill myself right there. I felt like utter ****. I felt she lead me on, but really I think I'm just a big loser. I don't even know what to do next time I see her.
She does sound like one of these girls to be honest: http://www.sosuave.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?s=&threadid=52958. Many guy friends, a manipulator.
I feel like such a dumb ****. I thought that if I were to ask her out, she would laugh in my face. Now I know it's true.
She just seems to be in another world, another place then I am right now...all beautiful and intelligent girls. With more friends(girls&guys), things to do, places to go. I don't think I'll ever be able to compete with that. I don't know if I really want to talk to her again. She's probably going to know something's up.

Being an AFC sucks ass. I've worked so hard and still I don't feel I have much to show for it. I've read the DJ bible, but I still feel like I've learned nothing.

Jay

 

[CharmaLeo]

I feel like such a dumb ****. I thought that if I were to ask her out, she would laugh in my face. Now I know it's true.
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Dude you're being too hard and yourself. Besides you are giving this ho too much attention.
Of course you are at a disadvantage 'cause you are going against a b/f. She has her own attachments.

Your advantage is that it sounds that she is around you a lot. Just be on your guard that she doesn't treat you like one of the girls. Stop her if she wants to use you as her emotional tampon.

Overall be a man and don't be angry and a wimpy pvssy. Keep your cool and act as though you already have 10 ho's ready to please you. The best thing to show her is that she would be actually one more in your long history of fvcks.

Keep your chin up, you'll be surprised.

 

[mrbrooklyn]

Oh well, her lost. Now go talk to the next ten girls you find attractive and try to get their numbers.

 

[gregory]

i feel for you man. but let me tell u this man: she is thinkin of you. If you really like her, dont let some chump who is gone out of town get in your way. TRUST ME on this one bro. you will regret this. u still have feelings for her. go for it. **** her b/f.

next time u see her, take her out for dinner, have a good time, and at the end, tell her how u really feel. u gotta be better than her amazing b/f. make her forget about her b/f. She is yours still. some girls tel u taht **** to make u jealous. when she smiles, and starts talking about him, say "Oh yeah? How is he by the way?"

 

[MacDiddy]

Dude, you sound like this girl owes you something. **Newsflash** She doesn't owe you diddly squat. Touching you and flirtling with you and all that is her game and u got played.

Okay thats harsh but its tough love man. I feel for ya! In hindsight, you could have:

-acted a little more indifferent to her advances, even C&F towards them. Make yourself more of a challenge. eg. She touches you, you reply "hey, hands of the merchandise." She brings you food, you say "Are you trying to fatten me up so the other chicks won't find me sexy, and there fore you can have me all to yourself"
-always be ending the conversation (I'm gonna assume you stayed till she said she had to go) Give her the impression that you're busy and focused.
-like Ross Jeffries says, do not attach excess meaning to being rejected or being accepted.

I think thats all for now

 

[Someyungguy]

I never really understood how to play it off when a girl starts to talk about her boyfriend or other emotional crap. Please tell me what I should be saying when she brings it up. I would always ignore it or change subjects. Obiously this isn't working.

I'm gonna assume you stayed till she said she had to go

No, thats the thing. I just got up and walked away when she was like my boyfriends the best. I was like "I'm not listening to this ****!" And so I walked away and never saw her to say bye before I left, so she'll be wondering what happened.

Do I play it cool and say that I wasn't feeling well, or I was in a rush? I'm guessing the AFC thing to do would be to show your feelings to her and talk to her about it. So I'll play it cool.


Jay

 

[PuertoRican_Lover]

Dude, you are upset at yourself for not taking advantage when the opportunity arose!! Why take it out on her? Get use to rejection, expecially from so-called HB10's!! But you have to ask her out first to get rejected. . Why did you reject yourself? I know, Lack of confidence!! So be it - a self-fulfilling prophecy!

 

[Pimp-sicle]

This story is actually quiet pathetic!! I know that sounds harsh but let me explain. Since your still a RAFC your going to hit speed bumps on your road to pimp-ness. Stop feeling sorry for yourself and go out and meet more girls. When she tells you about her bf act like you don't care instead of trying so hard to be a DJ. After she got done with that story I would have been like, "Oh that's great, good for you, but I'm not your emotional tampon." (smirk)

Let me tell you a few things to make you feel better:

-She's not a HB10. LOL No girl's a 10!!

-She's not as great as you think she is. Your mind blew her up and put her on that fat-head level above you.

-She's insecure, and a big time attention *****!! Surprised?? Hardly, nearly every girl is like this.

-So how do you act now? You act like you did before, keep flirting with her and go meet more girls. If you suddenly become distant and change your attitude she's going to know your a chump and that's not good!!



PIMP

 

[Someyungguy]

If she starts talking about her bf, should I make any comments or just kind of be like "thats cool" and then change subjects?


Jay

 

[Life-Trainee]

When I had to back out of that topic I just said "Oh, this is probably none of my business". Most of the times the girl gets it.

 

[Nameless]

Firstly

Im all for AFC's coming to this site. Most of us were AFCs once (unless you were a natural).

but

please do not give advice to other AFC's. Let guys with more knowledge/experience in the area do so. Not only will you give the original poster bad advice, you will dilute the proper/good advice on this site with the lame ones.

No, do not openly tell her how you feel (i.e. I love you).

It is POSSIBLE to turn this thing around, but it is an uphill battle, more likely to turn into a heartbreak than a success story.

Now if you move on you will actually be grateful in the future that this occured to you.

It resulted in powerful negative emotions. These emotions will fuel your drive to become the person that you will become in the future.

look at him now, isnt he grand?

 

[AMF]

The great thing about pain is that it teaches you a lesson.

 

[StrivetoThrive]

seriously pull out your balls and man up

I have a question. Did the wrestler "the Rock" apply his finishing move the rock bottom on you? No I dont think he did. So dont say youve hit rock bottom, when all youve really his is a small speed bump as the esteemed pimp-sicle said. If you want this biddie, ask her out. The only thing I see thats positive about you right now as that at least you have the wherewithall to know that if a chick is talking to you in that manner she is using you as a tampon. Oh that, and the fact that you said you were trying to improve yourself. Keep on improving and manning up and the chicks will follow. Just please dont come on and cry about spilled milk. That is all

 

[NewMan]

Let's get this into perspective here.

This is not a big deal as you would imagine.

Lesson 1:

This is an example of One-i-tis. You got all tied up with some chick you work with. You should be hitting up lot's of other chicks - and this would not have been such a big issue for you.


Lesson 2:

Always have other chicks on rotation. This will not only help with one-i-tis - but will give you a life outside - you'll not obsess with any one chickie - plus when you trade stories with a ho like this, you'll have some weekend war stories of your own.



Now onto better things.

When she starts telling you about some guy she pegged or whatever - your response is very important. You gotta act like you don't give a sh#t. You don't so this by changing the subject or walking away - what you can do is ask her some questions.

Be ****y about it - comment on stuff about them - maybe throw in a story of your own.....


Be flirty. Initate the flirting. Kino - you know the drill. But you've got to be playfull at all costs.

Remember there are millions of chickies out there - stop thinking about this one and only girl - Your not always going to get the girl - but she's good to work on.


Congrats on the hair and muscle.

 

[Someyungguy]

Wow. Thanks for all the responses everyone! Yeah, I sound like such a *****. I'm going to start working alot harder on my self-confidence, attitude, etc.

The thing is, i'm going to be working with this girl for the rest of the summer, so it should be interesting to say the least. I've been thinking alot about the whole HB rating system and now I understand. There really isn't an HB9 or HB10 or whatever. I do put alot of the girls I meet on a pedestal, but I'm realizing now that they actually have alot of problems. The girl I'm talking about in my post is pretty messed up when I think about it. She's the most materialistic person I've met. She notices expensive things like jewlery, clothes, watches and points them out to whoever she's talking too. People are like "what are you talking about?" She's all into shopping at the very best stores in NY when she goes to visit her friends there. "It's heaven!" she says. Yeah, she also has problems getting along with other females. I see all these things and many more now.

I think that I could do better. Don't get me wrong though, I'd hit it anyday of course. But LTR material....no.

Oh yeah, one other thing. Any guy that talks to her always is so nice and sweet(melts in her presence). I think that I'm going to neg-hit when she spots someone with an expensive purse or whatever. That will definetly get her attention. I'll use her as a learning tool from now on, lol.


Thanks again,
Jay

 

[JB101]

A few points:

Every guy on here (or at least the vast majority) have been in this type of situation. They talk to some hottie, they think it's going one direction, then she turns and it looks like all is lost. It's always a stepping stone rather than a bottomless pit of self pity and regret.

It's an overblown cliche, but its only one girl. This isn't the only HB in the area. One of things I've noticed from serious AFC friends (guys with no game at all) is a scarcity mentality (even living in a huge city). Every hottie gets raised onto this mythical platform. It's like, "oh my god, I have to do well here, this may be my only chance". A scarcity mentality only hurts your game. There are tons and tons of women out there. There will always be tons of women.

You've still got possibility! Practice on her. Test out the boldest, most C&F, most ballsy things you can think of. Use her as a test onto bigger and better things.

 

[adude]

dude ur a dumbfuk, now i am being too hard on u but u deserve it, first of all u like lil faggy ***** agreed to listen to her stupid story of her and her bf fuking her brains out...........WAKE THE FUK UP......next time just say to the ***** "i am not ur gf so fuk off and don't talk **** to me *****" and than leave the ***** alone.

 

[SOLDIERM16]

OK dude.. so u think u hit rock bottom... now what? u have nothing to freakin lose... U cant get worse.... thats one of the best postions to be in. Cuz now u know that it cant get worse. Go out and pick urself up. Hit on girls u dont really care for. Go out... party.. get drunk. And in a week or two, u wont even care what happens in her life... get it?

 

[michelangelo]

I'm no expert here, but....


WAKE THE F*CK UP!!!! NEXT!!!!


If this is not a textbook "NEXT" I can't imagine what would be.

 

[Someyungguy]

See, the thing is that I don't have many friends. My best friend mostly goes out with his friends from school. I don't know what I'm going to do. I don't really have any friends left.

I have to get my life on track, but I'm not sure how to go about getting some new friends.