I tend to agree to the limited effectivness of cold approaches

[Who Dares Win]

As much as I like to approach unknown girls in clubs and parties I awfully notice that it simply doesnt work that much anymore.

It takes much more qualities to breach the reason for which a girl would ignore you plus its simply not rewarding considering the quality of the average available girls.

Lets talk about clubs, its common and more common day after day to have group of friends who go there to celebrate, either girls night out or made couple which little to no interest to meet single men.

Parties are all about social proof and your rank in popularity which either comes from your above average look or support from people you know (from your social circle).

The point is that inside a social circle your look and character have much lower standards to be effective while its highter the limit of screwing up you can afford.

Sociologically speaking the single man which is great in value but low in connection is no longer the winning unit since less providing men but with highter social skilles and connection are cutting themselves greener pastures.

Right now I think the best thing is first of all to be the best of ourselves both physically, in social skills and professionally while at the same time finding place for mid term hunting and relying more on dating than quick sessions.

The only exception of course are guys way above average with a killer look, impressive social skills and the financial resourches to suppor their planes...someone like James Bond probably.

 

[Mike32ct]

Absolutely. In the past, we had terms like "singles bar" or "meet market" or even "pickup joint." Notice how those terms aren't really used anymore?

It's because bars and clubs aren't really like that for most guys anymore. People stay in their groups and don't want to be bothered by strangers.

What's funny is sometimes on Friday or Saturday night, if there are several bachelorette parties and/or girls nights out, women can actually outnumber men, especially early on. So when you look in the window, it seems like a paradise...

But that is not the case. I've been out those nights and even when it was 60 to 70 percent women, maybe only one or two guys were doing well.

Cold approach works best on vacation/holiday, not locally. Girls are in a fun party mood and don't have access to their regular FWB guys because he's hundreds or thousands of miles away. If she wants to get laid and isn't in a mixed group, she has to meet someone.

Locally, guys might be better off with one or two FWBs or a relationship if that's your thing, rather than trying to do random pulls.

 

[evansblue]

What people don't understand about the bar/club scene is that the staff are the ones who have huge tightly knit social circles that occupy the place, especially on the weekends. While you think you might be hitting on a random hot girl, there's a pretty good chance she's friends with the staff, and happens to be an off duty bartender herself. A lot of the guys in there are off duty bartenders as well. Some of them are bouncers and barbacks too. The point is it's very cliquey and everyone knows each other.

 

[TillTheEndOfTime]

Absolutely. In the past, we had terms like "singles bar" or "meet market" or even "pickup joint." Notice how those terms aren't really used anymore?

It's because bars and clubs aren't really like that for most guys anymore. People stay in their groups and don't want to be bothered by strangers.

What's funny is sometimes on Friday or Saturday night, if there are several pbachelorette arties and/or girls nights out, women can actually outnumber men, especially early on. So when you look in the window, it seems like a paradise...

But that is not the case. I've been out those nights and even when it was 60 to 70 percent women, maybe only one or two guys were doing well.

Cold approach works best on vacation/holiday, not locally. Girls are in a fun party mood and don't have access to their regular FWB guys because he's hundreds or thousands of miles away. If she wants to get laid and isn't in a mixed group, she has to meet someone.

Locally, guys might be better off with one or two FWBs or a relationship if that's your thing, rather than trying to do random pulls.

Bachelorette parties and girls night out parties draw more cold-blooded death stares than a white man in the million man march.

And you can quote me on that one.

 

[In2theGame]

As much as I like to approach unknown girls in clubs and parties I awfully notice that it simply doesnt work that much anymore

I'd have to disagree with this. I love approaching girls in the bars and clubs and it works great if you know how to approach. Depending on your style, personality, confidence etc... learn a line to open the girls up. I dont know why but the line i always use is "I saw you over there earlier and i thought you were beautiful" they usually smile and if i saw them talking to a guy earlier ill say something like "I didnt say Hi before because i thought that was your Boyfriend" even though i know its probably not but i use that to get the convo moving forward, then from there ill say "i dont mean to bother you,... im not botherin you am i?" ill use that as a push pull type move so if they say "oh no your not bothering me" and then smile..... i immediately initiate kino and touch their arm or grab their hand.

As a matter a fact, i was out last night at this rooftop Bar/Club type scene. To warm up, i went up to a group of 5 MILFS, I opened them up by saying,.."Hey ladies, i dont mean to bother you girls but i thought your friend over here was very beautiful" as i pointed to the hottest MILF in the group... I started talkin to her and i got touchy with her and started dancing with her... She tells me she's 39 to which she is very hot for her age so i kept going with it and she smiles and says she has a husband and instead of taking that as a signal to back off... i grabbed her closer to me and said "Your Husband letting you out looking this sexy?" BOOM! she smiling and gettin open. My 2 friends i was with wanted to move around a bit so i let that MILF get back to her friends but i could of closed that deal if i wanted.

We were sitting on these couches and 2 girls were dancing alone, my friend tells me to approach them but im busy eyeing this very hot blonde girl in a skin tight red dress, i couldnt stop staring at her lol anyway, one of the two girls my friend was mentioning had an unbelievable ass, turns out shes Brazilian. I opened her and said my usual line... however i got more aggressive with her by saying i thought she was very sexy.. then we started dancing... i pulled her really close to me and while shes rubbing that amazing ass on me.. i turn her around and make small talk and before you know it... full blown make out session with her.. in fact i wanted to bring her to the Hotel room but my Wing couldnt keep the IL high enough on her friend and the c0ckblock came and ruined it by saying lets go.

Next was the hot blonde in the red dress. now this group looked tough to penetrate because it was a group of 5 hot girls. They all sat down by the couch... I went overto the blonde in the red dress.... i tapped her arm and said the same line "I dont mean to bother you while your with your friends but i saw you by the bar earlier, i thought you were beautiful" she smiled and i kept on going with it by saying the usual "that your BF?" line... i saw like 4 guys trying to talk to her earlier. I used the same line again...."im not bothering you right?" she said no and tapped the seat next to her for me to sit down. I sat and we started making good convo and as i start trying to get touchy with her, im about to ask her to dance, her friends say they are leaving, so that slipped. Damn i wanted her... atleast to make out with her and get some action.. she was a 9.

After that i approached a flirted with a group outside of 8 girls. When im in a zone... ill approach a group of 100 women. I got a very cute latin girls number, another blonde girls number etc. Easy work when you have a good opener and tactic to escalate, you just have to work on it and find out what works for you that matches your personality and style.

 

[Serg897]

I'd have to disagree with this. I love approaching girls in the bars and clubs and it works great if you know how to approach. Depending on your style, personality, confidence etc... learn a line to open the girls up. I dont know why but the line i always use is "I saw you over there earlier and i thought you were beautiful" they usually smile and if i saw them talking to a guy earlier ill say something like "I didnt say Hi before because i thought that was your Boyfriend" even though i know its probably not but i use that to get the convo moving forward, then from there ill say "i dont mean to bother you,... im not botherin you am i?" ill use that as a push pull type move so if they say "oh no your not bothering me" and then smile..... i immediately initiate kino and touch their arm or grab their hand.

As a matter a fact, i was out last night at this rooftop Bar/Club type scene. To warm up, i went up to a group of 5 MILFS, I opened them up by saying,.."Hey ladies, i dont mean to bother you girls but i thought your friend over here was very beautiful" as i pointed to the hottest MILF in the group... I started talkin to her and i got touchy with her and started dancing with her... She tells me she's 39 to which she is very hot for her age so i kept going with it and she smiles and says she has a husband and instead of taking that as a signal to back off... i grabbed her closer to me and said "Your Husband letting you out looking this sexy?" BOOM! she smiling and gettin open. My 2 friends i was with wanted to move around a bit so i let that MILF get back to her friends but i could of closed that deal if i wanted.

We were sitting on these couches and 2 girls were dancing alone, my friend tells me to approach them but im busy eyeing this very hot blonde girl in a skin tight red dress, i couldnt stop staring at her lol anyway, one of the two girls my friend was mentioning had an unbelievable ass, turns out shes Brazilian. I opened her and said my usual line... however i got more aggressive with her by saying i thought she was very sexy.. then we started dancing... i pulled her really close to me and while shes rubbing that amazing ass on me.. i turn her around and make small talk and before you know it... full blown make out session with her.. in fact i wanted to bring her to the Hotel room but my Wing couldnt keep the IL high enough on her friend and the c0ckblock came and ruined it by saying lets go.

Next was the hot blonde in the red dress. now this group looked tough to penetrate because it was a group of 5 hot girls. They all sat down by the couch... I went overto the blonde in the red dress.... i tapped her arm and said the same line "I dont mean to bother you while your with your friends but i saw you by the bar earlier, i thought you were beautiful" she smiled and i kept on going with it by saying the usual "that your BF?" line... i saw like 4 guys trying to talk to her earlier. I used the same line again...."im not bothering you right?" she said no and tapped the seat next to her for me to sit down. I sat and we started making good convo and as i start trying to get touchy with her, im about to ask her to dance, her friends say they are leaving, so that slipped. Damn i wanted her... atleast to make out with her and get some action.. she was a 9.

After that i approached a flirted with a group outside of 8 girls. When im in a zone... ill approach a group of 100 women. I got a very cute latin girls number, another blonde girls number etc. Easy work when you have a good opener and tactic to escalate, you just have to work on it and find out what works for you that matches your personality and style.

There is always something to be said about the direct approach at normal clubs and bars like that.

 

[In2theGame]

There is always something to be said about the direct approach at normal clubs and bars like that.

What do you mean?

 

[MisterD]

Of all the men I know that are successful with women, not one has cold approached a chick. I've never heard a buddy say "yeah you gotta see this new hottie I'm dating, I just saw her on the street and had to talk to her". That's never happened, which is why I doubt some of what's said on here.

Studies continue to show you get most of your dates from social circles.

The only thing I may do in terms of approach is what I call a warm approach--maybe I'm on line at a store and a girl overhears a conversation I'm having and laughs, then I'll turn around and open her up and get her digits. Or maybe I'm at a concert and I'm seated next to a hot girl and her friend; I'll flirt for the whole night to get her number at the end. Or since I'm a photographer, if I run into another photographer at the same place I'll open with "take any good shots so far?" or something else and it feels more natural than just walking up to a random girl on the street saying "i think you're cute, what's your name?" In my approaches, I have a reason for talking to them, or some sort of in.

 

[Who Dares Win]

I'd have to disagree with this. I love approaching girls in the bars and clubs and it works great if you know how to approach. Depending on your style, personality, confidence etc... learn a line to open the girls up. I dont know why but the line i always use is "I saw you over there earlier and i thought you were beautiful" they usually smile and if i saw them talking to a guy earlier ill say something like "I didnt say Hi before because i thought that was your Boyfriend" even though i know its probably not but i use that to get the convo moving forward, then from there ill say "i dont mean to bother you,... im not botherin you am i?" ill use that as a push pull type move so if they say "oh no your not bothering me" and then smile..... i immediately initiate kino and touch their arm or grab their hand.

As a matter a fact, i was out last night at this rooftop Bar/Club type scene. To warm up, i went up to a group of 5 MILFS, I opened them up by saying,.."Hey ladies, i dont mean to bother you girls but i thought your friend over here was very beautiful" as i pointed to the hottest MILF in the group... I started talkin to her and i got touchy with her and started dancing with her... She tells me she's 39 to which she is very hot for her age so i kept going with it and she smiles and says she has a husband and instead of taking that as a signal to back off... i grabbed her closer to me and said "Your Husband letting you out looking this sexy?" BOOM! she smiling and gettin open. My 2 friends i was with wanted to move around a bit so i let that MILF get back to her friends but i could of closed that deal if i wanted.

We were sitting on these couches and 2 girls were dancing alone, my friend tells me to approach them but im busy eyeing this very hot blonde girl in a skin tight red dress, i couldnt stop staring at her lol anyway, one of the two girls my friend was mentioning had an unbelievable ass, turns out shes Brazilian. I opened her and said my usual line... however i got more aggressive with her by saying i thought she was very sexy.. then we started dancing... i pulled her really close to me and while shes rubbing that amazing ass on me.. i turn her around and make small talk and before you know it... full blown make out session with her.. in fact i wanted to bring her to the Hotel room but my Wing couldnt keep the IL high enough on her friend and the c0ckblock came and ruined it by saying lets go.

Next was the hot blonde in the red dress. now this group looked tough to penetrate because it was a group of 5 hot girls. They all sat down by the couch... I went overto the blonde in the red dress.... i tapped her arm and said the same line "I dont mean to bother you while your with your friends but i saw you by the bar earlier, i thought you were beautiful" she smiled and i kept on going with it by saying the usual "that your BF?" line... i saw like 4 guys trying to talk to her earlier. I used the same line again...."im not bothering you right?" she said no and tapped the seat next to her for me to sit down. I sat and we started making good convo and as i start trying to get touchy with her, im about to ask her to dance, her friends say they are leaving, so that slipped. Damn i wanted her... atleast to make out with her and get some action.. she was a 9.

After that i approached a flirted with a group outside of 8 girls. When im in a zone... ill approach a group of 100 women. I got a very cute latin girls number, another blonde girls number etc. Easy work when you have a good opener and tactic to escalate, you just have to work on it and find out what works for you that matches your personality and style.

Sure but in the end of the night what did you get in terms of one night stands or relationship? how many of those girls you banged and/or you still meet?

You see, the club is still good to get some action but nowhere effective or maybe you're more attractive than me.
In my case I pull a ons out of 6-8 nights out and 2 or 3 dates.

I got much more while belonging to groups, nowhere comparable.

 

[NobodyCares1]

Depends, for example I live in a small town surrounded by small williages and when I do cold approach about 85% of the time we have at least one person that we both know. So the girls might be more comfortable going out with me then, though I still don't get the dates always I got something more serious recenly from a simple cold approach, maybe because the girl's best friend is a girl that I have math classes with, though I didn't know that when I approached her.

 

[ScottMustaine]

I'd have to disagree with this. I love approaching girls in the bars and clubs and it works great if you know how to approach. Depending on your style, personality, confidence etc... learn a line to open the girls up. I dont know why but the line i always use is "I saw you over there earlier and i thought you were beautiful" they usually smile and if i saw them talking to a guy earlier ill say something like "I didnt say Hi before because i thought that was your Boyfriend" even though i know its probably not but i use that to get the convo moving forward, then from there ill say "i dont mean to bother you,... im not botherin you am i?" ill use that as a push pull type move so if they say "oh no your not bothering me" and then smile..... i immediately initiate kino and touch their arm or grab their hand.

As a matter a fact, i was out last night at this rooftop Bar/Club type scene. To warm up, i went up to a group of 5 MILFS, I opened them up by saying,.."Hey ladies, i dont mean to bother you girls but i thought your friend over here was very beautiful" as i pointed to the hottest MILF in the group... I started talkin to her and i got touchy with her and started dancing with her... She tells me she's 39 to which she is very hot for her age so i kept going with it and she smiles and says she has a husband and instead of taking that as a signal to back off... i grabbed her closer to me and said "Your Husband letting you out looking this sexy?" BOOM! she smiling and gettin open. My 2 friends i was with wanted to move around a bit so i let that MILF get back to her friends but i could of closed that deal if i wanted.

We were sitting on these couches and 2 girls were dancing alone, my friend tells me to approach them but im busy eyeing this very hot blonde girl in a skin tight red dress, i couldnt stop staring at her lol anyway, one of the two girls my friend was mentioning had an unbelievable ass, turns out shes Brazilian. I opened her and said my usual line... however i got more aggressive with her by saying i thought she was very sexy.. then we started dancing... i pulled her really close to me and while shes rubbing that amazing ass on me.. i turn her around and make small talk and before you know it... full blown make out session with her.. in fact i wanted to bring her to the Hotel room but my Wing couldnt keep the IL high enough on her friend and the c0ckblock came and ruined it by saying lets go.

Next was the hot blonde in the red dress. now this group looked tough to penetrate because it was a group of 5 hot girls. They all sat down by the couch... I went overto the blonde in the red dress.... i tapped her arm and said the same line "I dont mean to bother you while your with your friends but i saw you by the bar earlier, i thought you were beautiful" she smiled and i kept on going with it by saying the usual "that your BF?" line... i saw like 4 guys trying to talk to her earlier. I used the same line again...."im not bothering you right?" she said no and tapped the seat next to her for me to sit down. I sat and we started making good convo and as i start trying to get touchy with her, im about to ask her to dance, her friends say they are leaving, so that slipped. Damn i wanted her... atleast to make out with her and get some action.. she was a 9.

After that i approached a flirted with a group outside of 8 girls. When im in a zone... ill approach a group of 100 women. I got a very cute latin girls number, another blonde girls number etc. Easy work when you have a good opener and tactic to escalate, you just have to work on it and find out what works for you that matches your personality and style.

Can you explain somehow in dialog how was the convo going from start to end when you approached a group of girls? :rock:

I wanna learn.:rockon:

 

[Chamber36]

I like how you described your direct approaches In2TheGame. I like how you boiled it down.

 

[VladPatton]

Of all the men I know that are successful with women, not one has cold approached a chick. I've never heard a buddy say "yeah you gotta see this new hottie I'm dating, I just saw her on the street and had to talk to her". That's never happened, which is why I doubt some of what's said on here.

Studies continue to show you get most of your dates from social circles.

The only thing I may do in terms of approach is what I call a warm approach--maybe I'm on line at a store and a girl overhears a conversation I'm having and laughs, then I'll turn around and open her up and get her digits. Or maybe I'm at a concert and I'm seated next to a hot girl and her friend; I'll flirt for the whole night to get her number at the end. Or since I'm a photographer, if I run into another photographer at the same place I'll open with "take any good shots so far?" or something else and it feels more natural than just walking up to a random girl on the street saying "i think you're cute, what's your name?" In my approaches, I have a reason for talking to them, or some sort of in.

1000% Agreed!

 

[In2theGame]

Can you explain somehow in dialog how was the convo going from start to end when you approached a group of girls? :rock:

I wanna learn.:rockon:

It really is about how you present yourself Scott. You have to feel in the smooth flow to approach groups of girls or small sets. Me or another guy can go up to the same group of girls and have completely different results.

I'll give an example of a Field Report from last weekend. i didnt post the FP because posters are going to think im just trying to show off or brag and im not like that but here is what happened. Me and 4 other friends met up in Midtown... the night started slow but then got packed with people. My friends were talkin to some girls here and there and just hangin around then i saw what to me was this smokin hot brunette. Tall, Dark eyes, Nice hair, sexy body and very attractive face,... she was in a large group of about 8 girls but they were scattered around since it was a group party. I kept my eye on her and thinking if or when i should approach her but there was this guy next to her like a leech, i was thinking "thats probably her boyfriend or something" bout 20 min later i caught her at he bar with one of her friends. I went in and tapped her arm and lightly put my arm around her back and leaned it and said the same thing "Heyyy, I saw you walking around before and i thought you were so beautiful" she laughed and smiled then asked for my name. Then, kept the same lines "I really wanted to say Hi before but is that guy your boyfriend?" she nodded no so i said ohh okay, then i proceeded with small talk "so who your here with" she tells me a group party with her girls and friends, Im like ohh okay cool. Then i move the convo forward with "So what are you? you look Italian or something, she tells me shes irish and greek. (mm so hot) so then i start mixing it up with her... i say "I wasnt sure to come say hi to you" she's like why? i say "You kind of looked like a Bi*ch" she laughed and said oh really! and i said "Yeah! but im glad im wrong right?" she laughed again. As the music gets better i grabbed her hand and lead her away from her friends slowly and started dancing with her, we talked a bit more but by this time we were by a wall and we are starting to flirt and shes teasing me by putting her lips close to mine, but i dont bite,... i said "dont tease me" she giggles and says "what your going to do about it?" I said... Oh yeah? she smiled and smiled but then i leaned it and said in her ear, If you want to taste my lips, just do it.. my face brushed on hers and i started making out with her by the wall while grabbing that tight body. After making out, that Leech guy that was with her came by and just stood standing by us really close... im thinking WTF.. im thinking its her brother maybe... but then i lean in and tell her in her ear who is this guy? hes just standing there. She looked at him and said something and he left to which i said "oh okay he left, now i can get back to tasting those lips" lol she loved it... As the usual... when girls are in groups usually... when the crew is cutting out, they will grab their friend to leave. so we exchanged numbers and the next day i got a phone call from her, shes been initiating convo with me via text/calling.

I know its not the best description but i typed this fast and as best as i could for you, plus im eating and trying to decide what im going to wear as my friends called me to go out again tonight lol

 

[In2theGame]

1000% Agreed!

Hey Vlad, where in NYC are you? What spots do you hit up

 

[Burroughs]

Who dares win is spot on

In 2012 no girl above an hb6 wants to be approached by a stranger.....strangers are weird creepers no matter how handsome they are.

hotter chicks have 50-100 men on their facebooks trying to date them at all times...she makes plans with them and then she meets them out at clubs and bars.

in demand women have no time for new men until they are over age 40

it is a closed circle

only single weirdo creepers without social circles go out alone in a girls mind...and all that matters is what in her mind because girls are solopistic

sure she'll be polite even laugh at your lame jokes maybe even give you a number...but then she will flake and you'll cry....secretly she thinks you are a creep but is too insecure and passive to tell you.

Only fatties, uglys, and fuglies are available for cold approaches...and frankly who cares

 

[In2theGame]

As for the social circle thing... Its true that you can penetrate the girls better but the same game really... getting the girl into you. Last 3 girls i was attracted to that were part of our circle.. i banged 2 of them and messed around with 3 of them. Its Challenging to initiate girls you dont know and just get in there. in fact ive had many girls tell me that they found it attractive that i approached her and her friends. Ive asked why and its the same thing every time, girl says "I thought it was nice you came over, It shows you arent scared" I play dumb and say "Scared?" They respond with "Your not afraid to talk and be confident". We all hear the same thing all the time here, be confident and approach but doing it and saying it is a different ball game.

 

[bigneil]

Not one person mentioned the most important factor.

LOOK FOR BUYING SIGNALS.

It doesn't matter where you are. If you fit the part, the woman will hold eye contact and smile, and you must say something - anything - quickly (3 second rule). The easiest line is to just ask her name. She'll become so preoccupied with herself she'll forget any awkwardness you display. If she thinks you're ok, she'll ask your name. If she likes you, she'll extend her hand for you to shake. Ideally she'll do both. Hold her hand firmly, as if you are might have to catch her if she falls, but don't squeeze hard like she's a man. Gaze into her eyes a little too long and slowly release your hand to see if she holds on.

only single weirdo creepers without social circles go out alone in a girls mind...

We'll assume you're not a girl and that you therefore don't agree with this.

A real man is independent and as hot girls say "He can go anywhere". One day you will travel for business and you will need to be able to walk into the trendiest bar in town and pick up the hottest barmaid, right in front of the busboy who she gave head to the night before, when you're 1000 miles from home. People always flock to a person with good energy. You can sit next to anyone, an HB9, or an old man, and have a great conversation.

Once boys move beyond "that high school locker room feel" they can become men.

 

[Burroughs]

A real man is independent and can go anywhere. People always flock to a person with good energy. You can sit next to anyone, an HB9, or an old man, and have a great conversation.

Once boys move beyond "that high school locker room feel" they can become men.

I play in a band and we're out 2-4 times a week. I've done this for 7 years...I talk to whoever I want whenever..but I have a large social circle built over years.

my observations on cold approaches are simply a reflection of what I see on a numerical basis.

I'm 26 so I'm talking about what girls under 25 are like is a lot different that girls over 30 or 35...this is a facebook culture...cold approach is dying soon to be dead...this is just the first wave...I guarantee you in 15 years it will be illegal for a strange man to talk to a girl...it is already illegal for single men to be in some new york playgrounds...strange men are suspects

Of course as a man as always do whatever the fvck you want to do :rock: and don't let anything stop you.

 

[ScottMustaine]

It really is about how you present yourself Scott. You have to feel in the smooth flow to approach groups of girls or small sets. Me or another guy can go up to the same group of girls and have completely different results.

I'll give an example of a Field Report from last weekend. i didnt post the FP because posters are going to think im just trying to show off or brag and im not like that but here is what happened. Me and 4 other friends met up in Midtown... the night started slow but then got packed with people. My friends were talkin to some girls here and there and just hangin around then i saw what to me was this smokin hot brunette. Tall, Dark eyes, Nice hair, sexy body and very attractive face,... she was in a large group of about 8 girls but they were scattered around since it was a group party. I kept my eye on her and thinking if or when i should approach her but there was this guy next to her like a leech, i was thinking "thats probably her boyfriend or something" bout 20 min later i caught her at he bar with one of her friends. I went in and tapped her arm and lightly put my arm around her back and leaned it and said the same thing "Heyyy, I saw you walking around before and i thought you were so beautiful" she laughed and smiled then asked for my name. Then, kept the same lines "I really wanted to say Hi before but is that guy your boyfriend?" she nodded no so i said ohh okay, then i proceeded with small talk "so who your here with" she tells me a group party with her girls and friends, Im like ohh okay cool. Then i move the convo forward with "So what are you? you look Italian or something, she tells me shes irish and greek. (mm so hot) so then i start mixing it up with her... i say "I wasnt sure to come say hi to you" she's like why? i say "You kind of looked like a Bi*ch" she laughed and said oh really! and i said "Yeah! but im glad im wrong right?" she laughed again. As the music gets better i grabbed her hand and lead her away from her friends slowly and started dancing with her, we talked a bit more but by this time we were by a wall and we are starting to flirt and shes teasing me by putting her lips close to mine, but i dont bite,... i said "dont tease me" she giggles and says "what your going to do about it?" I said... Oh yeah? she smiled and smiled but then i leaned it and said in her ear, If you want to taste my lips, just do it.. my face brushed on hers and i started making out with her by the wall while grabbing that tight body. After making out, that Leech guy that was with her came by and just stood standing by us really close... im thinking WTF.. im thinking its her brother maybe... but then i lean in and tell her in her ear who is this guy? hes just standing there. She looked at him and said something and he left to which i said "oh okay he left, now i can get back to tasting those lips" lol she loved it... As the usual... when girls are in groups usually... when the crew is cutting out, they will grab their friend to leave. so we exchanged numbers and the next day i got a phone call from her, shes been initiating convo with me via text/calling.

I know its not the best description but i typed this fast and as best as i could for you, plus im eating and trying to decide what im going to wear as my friends called me to go out again tonight lol

Wow, thanks man. Helped a lot !

I remember one time I said to a girl " Well, first time I met you I thought you're some crazy *****, I hope I'm wrong..." and she made that YouSonOfA***** look and walked away. So I say "you're some crazy girl who would break my heart" instead...


Anyway I wondered how did you talk with that girl in group.


You know , you go in a group of girls, tell that girl that she's beautiful, and you continue with convo. But the **** you do with the group?

Especially on the street? Talk with them etc...



I once approached a girl in a group, chatted, took her number , she had weird look. And her girlfriends had shocked faces when I said "Give me your number I wanna hang out with you "

-Hang out?

"What part didn't you understand ? I wanna meet you better."

-Okay...

...

That number was fake and her gf's were kind of amazed. Girl was 6 years older than me... Bad luck I guess..