I should admit defeat

[ChalengeGuyFan]

I lack the courage and the motivation to try this stuff any further.

Nature has played a fine joke on me: it gave me the brains, the looks, even the wits (when I'm around close friends/familiy), but made be socially inept (especially around girls).
I'm not boasting; I've been called handsome, hot, charming, smart etc. many times before.

I've also had many, many girls who were attracted to me (probably more than the average Joe), but I always fvcked those chances up. Every ****ing chance.

So here I am with the same experience of a 1 year old. Yep, that bad.
It hurts me a lot, but maybe I should admit defeat.


I cannot internalize the fact that a girl could actually feel lust towards me. When one does, I cannot escalate. When I feel lust towards a girl, I feel ashamed to admit it.
There's a fvcking curse on me...

I was constantly thinking about the past failures and saying to myself that I could have done better or that, if I were given the chance to relive my live, I would definitely do it better. But that's bollocks. I'm too fvcking retarded with this to ever do well, even if given 1000 chances.


Not that it'd do it with my own hand, but if somehow I'd lose my life, it wouldn't bother me a bit. I'd be thankful, actually.

 

[Daman23]

Hey dude, hopefully you had a bad day and this is just a way for you to vent but if you're serious you got to realize that you're only 23 and you're about to give up!!? You're taking girls way too seriously and justifying your entire happiness on them. You're also way too hard on yourself, focus on the positives and believe in yourself, if girls called me handsome, hot, charming, smart.... (which i know that i am already and I don't need people to boost my ego) I would certainly act on that. If an attractive girl called me hot to my face, you can gurantee i'll be getting her number and if it's in a club/bar, i'll be escalting and getting sexual in no time.

Bottom line man, if you don't believe you can get girls, you'll never will.

 

[ChalengeGuyFan]

Bottom line man, if you don't believe you can get girls, you'll never will.

THAT is my problem! Having a girl seems like such a strange idea, like something very distant...

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I may never catch up. I wish I'd have the type of girls I never did, but as I get older that gets near impossible.
I feel old.

 

[Solomon]

I lack the courage and the motivation to try this stuff any further.

Nature has played a fine joke on me: it gave me the brains, the looks, even the wits (when I'm around close friends/familiy),

I call b.s. post a pic OP, I've seen this many times before from "average" guys who claim the same thing, just post a pic OP

srs

 

[Iceberg]

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I know you're down in the dumps, but I gotta be honest with you: That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

You're 23 and half of your prime days are down the drain? What the f**k do you consider a man's prime days? 12 - 18? I didn't start getting girls steadily until I was 24 or 25, I bet. And even then, I wasn't at the top of my game.

You're a man. Your "prime years" pretty much extend for half a century. And realistically, longer than that.

Go for a jog or somethin, man. You're speaking pure nonsense

Girls aren't even that important. Forget that crap and go follow your passions.

 

[ChalengeGuyFan]

I call b.s. post a pic OP, I've seen this many times before from "average" guys who claim the same thing, just post a pic OP

srs

It should be obvious that I don't want to risk blowing up my cover.
If you prefer so, consider me as being average or ugly. Whatever you think, it's a fact that girls responded well to my looks.

 

[ChalengeGuyFan]

I know you're down in the dumps, but I gotta be honest with you: That is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

You're 23 and half of your prime days are down the drain? What the f**k do you consider a man's prime days? 12 - 18? I didn't start getting girls steadily until I was 24 or 25, I bet. And even then, I wasn't at the top of my game.

You're a man. Your "prime years" pretty much extend for half a century. And realistically, longer than that.

Go for a jog or somethin, man. You're speaking pure nonsense

Girls aren't even that important. Forget that crap and go follow your passions.

True; when you have them!

 

[PrettyBoyAJ]

1. A mans prime is around 26-35 (Once their life really begins. Full time job, house, car)

2. Girls can call you all they want but if your not doing anything with them that doesn't mean sh*t. 3 years ago girls would call me cute and handsome but I still was a virgin. I changed alot of things up and now I'm 21 and slept with over 20 girls in the past 3 years (and 2 yrs I was faithful in a relationship [cheated once]). It's not alot but I know I'm getting better as time progresses. Things can only get better.

 

[The_411]

THAT is my problem! Having a girl seems like such a strange idea, like something very distant...

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I may never catch up. I wish I'd have the type of girls I never did, but as I get older that gets near impossible.
I feel old.

Dude, I'm 36 so for a 23 year old to come here and say he's old etc is just silly. You're just getting into the prime years.

To me it sounds like there's something underlying in your past that's holding you back or it's low Testosterone.

Just fake it til you make it. Say outrageous crap, don't take crap from women, and stop worrying about women, always keep it in a sexual frame, and be fun.

If you think like a killjoy and act depressed you'll come off that way and nio one wants to be around you.

Read a Tucker Max book for insight on how ridiculous most women are.

Once you start to realize that women have a much smaller window then men. They're screwed once they hit 35 basically and sometimes earlier than that.

 

[zekko]

Nature has played a fine joke on me: it gave me the brains, the looks, even the wits (when I'm around close friends/familiy), but made be socially inept (especially around girls).
I'm not boasting; I've been called handsome, hot, charming, smart etc. many times before.

There, you've just internalized it.
You're just lacking experience. Take what you've learned and move forward.

 

[luckster]

THAT is my problem! Having a girl seems like such a strange idea, like something very distant...

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I may never catch up. I wish I'd have the type of girls I never did, but as I get older that gets near impossible.
I feel old.

22 here man, the fun has just begun... Stop obsessing about women and start doing something with your life. I found this site/information when I graduated college and all of it was pretty new to me. I thought "well, ****, I'm out of college, the best part is gone." Bullsh_t. It's just starting. I just got offered full-time at my current job, and currently have several other job offers to choose from and I have no clue which I'm gonna go with. I hit the gym every other day. I got a steady group of guys together that I go out with every weekend or so. Do something to make **** happen for you, take action. No one said this was going to be easy.

You hear guys always say that girls have it easier, but really think about that statement. You, as a man, have the social "burden" to do the approach. Yes, girls get approached all the time, but by who? Dipsh_ts. Guys that they don't know is no good for them. And us? We have to power to approach those we want. We get to make our own fate. Society dictates women just wait. We make sh_t happen. We make what WE want happen.

When you look at a girl, really look at her. Stop thinking of her as someone that you want to be with, something you can't attain, but really look through her. She's also a human being, that's it. Relax. Talk. Anything.

This is the game of life, not the game of women. Pick yourself up and get back out there. Defeat is not for us. Not now. Not at this age. Not ever.

 

[CoolBlue]

1) Post pics. we decide how attractive you are.

2)You say there are many girls who are attracted to you but cannot internalize the fact that a girl could actually feel lust towards you? That does not compute.

3) Baby steps. If you're a social retard, you gotta learn slowly. Don't expect to jump in bed with one immediately. Learn to talk to one. Next build a connection. Then flirt. Then kino. Then on to the sex. Will take a l9ong time for you to get there.

 

[Black Dog]

I lack the courage and the motivation to try this stuff any further.

Nature has played a fine joke on me: it gave me the brains, the looks, even the wits (when I'm around close friends/familiy), but made be socially inept (especially around girls).
I'm not boasting; I've been called handsome, hot, charming, smart etc. many times before.

I've also had many, many girls who were attracted to me (probably more than the average Joe), but I always fvcked those chances up. Every ****ing chance.

So here I am with the same experience of a 1 year old. Yep, that bad.
It hurts me a lot, but maybe I should admit defeat.


I cannot internalize the fact that a girl could actually feel lust towards me. When one does, I cannot escalate. When I feel lust towards a girl, I feel ashamed to admit it.
There's a fvcking curse on me...

I was constantly thinking about the past failures and saying to myself that I could have done better or that, if I were given the chance to relive my live, I would definitely do it better. But that's bollocks. I'm too fvcking retarded with this to ever do well, even if given 1000 chances.


Not that it'd do it with my own hand, but if somehow I'd lose my life, it wouldn't bother me a bit. I'd be thankful, actually.

Hey thanks a lot man, that means more girls for me. I'll be sure to think about you when I'm nailing the girl you're too afraid to talk to, gracias!

 

[TheJazz]

You seem like you're down in the dirt. If you think about it, the only way forward... is up! Soon this'll all be a distant memory and a funny story.

 

[r0cky]

You're a person that is too lazy to face his fears. Yes, thats what it boils down to, your fear of sexuality is reflected on your non-acceptance of being liked by girls and by yourself. Sadly, if you let yourself be defeated, you will also be easily defeated in other important aspects of your life. Such as career, social, and health.

 

[cordoncordon]

My word man lighten up. When I was your age I was too worried about my career and having fun to worry about something like getting with girls. I mean I did, but it wasn't a priority. It wasn't until I was about 28 or so that I really started to get full confidence in myself when it came to women and started to score left and right. Look at my age now, and I have been dating a super hot, fun, genuinely nice girl for 2.5 years now and couldn't be happier. Before her I was with 3 other LTR's longer than a year, and slept with at least 100 girls. Most after age 25. But now? I have never been more secure with myself, nor do I think I have ever looked and felt better.

Man....you seriously need to relax. Men don't even hit their stride until they are 30. Pic below of me and my gf.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/matt9f.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/rose3l.jpg/

How about a pic of you? To be honest, I have always felt guys on here have overestimated their looks. Almost everyone here says they are better than average, and yet somehow they always struggle with women. Post a pic and lets eliminate the looks factor first ok?

 

[Ciel]

shut the hell up and grow a pair

 

[Gray The Prince]

My word man lighten up. When I was your age I was too worried about my career and having fun to worry about something like getting with girls. I mean I did, but it wasn't a priority. It wasn't until I was about 28 or so that I really started to get full confidence in myself when it came to women and started to score left and right. Look at my age now, and I have been dating a super hot, fun, genuinely nice girl for 2.5 years now and couldn't be happier. Before her I was with 3 other LTR's longer than a year, and slept with at least 100 girls. Most after age 25. But now? I have never been more secure with myself, nor do I think I have ever looked and felt better.

Man....you seriously need to relax. Men don't even hit their stride until they are 30. Pic below of me and my gf.

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/171/matt9f.jpg/

http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/844/rose3l.jpg/

How about a pic of you? To be honest, I have always felt guys on here have overestimated their looks. Almost everyone here says they are better than average, and yet somehow they always struggle with women. Post a pic and lets eliminate the looks factor first ok?

I'm mirin' your aesthetics and your heavenly blessed beauty gf. gjdm

 

[Mike32ct]

THAT is my problem! Having a girl seems like such a strange idea, like something very distant...

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I may never catch up. I wish I'd have the type of girls I never did, but as I get older that gets near impossible.
I feel old.

You're NOT old bro. I'm a decent looking guy and didn't have my first kiss until 27, and s*x until 28. I had my biggest score less than a year ago at 35. I had two chicks in the same week. I'm not here to brag. I want to prove to you that you are FAR from old.

Actually, you have a golden opportunity to turn everything around, and you are young enough to do it. Plus, if what you say about your looks is true, then you are blessed. Be more direct with girls. When you get her alone, move in for that kiss and see how far you can go.

 

[AtomicDog]

THAT is my problem! Having a girl seems like such a strange idea, like something very distant...

And the '23' thing... Half of my prime days are down the drain; how would you feel if it happened to you? And that half is probably the good half: when you have all the time in the world, when you can do basically whatever stupid sh!t you wish to do, etc.

I may never catch up. I wish I'd have the type of girls I never did, but as I get older that gets near impossible.
I feel old.

I'm 24 and I "gave up" 3 years ago.

Focused on my career and my interests.

Whenever I need sex I just pay a hooker, and I have plenty of cash for that.

Overall I'm pretty happy, though there's the occasional feeling of depression when I think of "what I might have gotten if I'd kept going with the whole PUA thing".

But then I figure that I would have gone through so much discomfort and struggle, for so little gain, and lost so much money and career opportunities that it just wouldn't be worth it.

Even the struggle of the corporate world is more enjoyable than PUA, because you can learn, understand, and gain mastery of skills, and plan for the future.

It feels like real success, that you earned.