I reinstalled OLD

[mikedee]

I reinstalled Tinder 2 days ago. I live in a new country (Czech Republic), I have a new phone number (I used a new recovery email too) and a new iPhone so I thought it would help with setting up a brand new account. I uploaded a new picture as main picture, which I think is pretty good, some say I look like a male model on this particular photo. Anyway. I also reinstalled Bumble and Hinge. I swipe range 25-30.

Some observations:

-A lot of women with dogs (big dogs)
-A lot of women with tattoos (arm, chest, thighs)
-A lot of women in outdoor settings (hiking, climbing, surf)
-A lot of women in fancy places (restaurants, travel, etc.)
-A lot of women at the gym (either gym sl*ts or bodybuilding)
-Almost all women are overweight (not obese), very few skinny girls
-Below average or at best average faces
-No description or Instagram only
-If there is a description, it's always super generic: "Guess who's a foodie and love traveling?"

About Tinder and its algorithm

I got almost 20 likes in the first 30mins, after that it went dead. One like or 2 per day. I consider that I have a "good" profile, pictures are ok (some pro pics, some candid pics), "normal" description. I suspect Tinder to give a quick boost to your profile in the first hours by showing your profile to bottom tier profiles and then reduce its visibility to almost invisible. I got only 1 match with a cute girl, she never replied my message.

What it does is you get a high and then a down, you immediately want to buy premium services to get more matches, unfortunately it doesn't really work, it doesn't change anything (from my previous experiences). You will escalate from tinder+ to tinder gold and finally tinder platinum. It just blows my mind how Match Group Inc has become greedy, men don't stand a chance. A girl at school, (HB 4-5) showed me her Tinder, she had a endless list of matches and messages, from above average guys! I couldn't believe it. Completely different reality for women.

About Bumble

They moderate your pictures for whatever stupid reason. I got one of my picture removed because the picture showed me in action while shooting a model, I guess it's too sexist for them, it's completely retarded. Got less likes than Tinder, and while swiping left I cancelled all of them, so all the girls that had liked me were sh1t. Since then, nothing. Looks like Bumble is now using the same tactics for making you pay premium, it was not like that before. Got one match, she didn't message me.

About Hinge

A lot of fatties. You can only like 5-6 profiles per day. I think the prompts is a bad idea, usually it makes the girls look even more stupid and generic, I mean if you don't have anything interesting to say, shut the fck up. Got 1 match, she never replied to my message. Then nothing, no activity. It's look like it always the same ugly profiles looping over and over.

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So I think that yes women over evaluate their SMV and have become more picky, but the system of OLD is against men. It's not that men don't get swiped right (well, less and less) but more that men profiles have no visibility. How can you get matches is your profile is shown once in a while? It makes men insecure, which doesn't help for men that have already confidence and self-esteem issues. I got 4-5 lays with Tinder but it was 3-4 years ago.

OLD is crap, I prefer to cold approach, I might not get a high ROI but at least I can choose which girl I want to talk to, it improves my social skills, it forces me to approach and reduces my approach anxiety, and at least I don't contribute to this system made by those c0cksuckers at Match Group. It only makes men miserable, weak and disposable. It's weird society we're living in, OLD is psychologically as toxic/addictive as smoking/drugs/alcohol but it's available on the App Store, I prefer to stay away from it. Our society is going down the toilet, I can't help but to be pessimistic, I honestly see no hope, it's going to get worse.

 

[SargeMaximus]

And yet it’s the only way I can get laid. Very interesting

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

And yet it’s the only way I can get laid. Very interesting

I'd be an incel if it wasn't for OLD

 

[mikedee]

I'd be an incel if it wasn't for OLD

I'm so glad I don't rely on OLD as my only option to get laid. But if it works for you, good. I just wonder what kind of girl you get on there.

 

[bat soup]

I reinstalled Tinder 2 days ago. I live in a new country (Czech Republic), I have a new phone number (I used a new recovery email too) and a new iPhone so I thought it would help with setting up a brand new account. I uploaded a new picture as main picture, which I think is pretty good, some say I look like a male model on this particular photo. Anyway. I also reinstalled Bumble and Hinge. I swipe range 25-30.

Some observations:

-A lot of women with dogs (big dogs)
-A lot of women with tattoos (arm, chest, thighs)
-A lot of women in outdoor settings (hiking, climbing, surf)
-A lot of women in fancy places (restaurants, travel, etc.)
-A lot of women at the gym (either gym sl*ts or bodybuilding)
-Almost all women are overweight (not obese), very few skinny girls
-Below average or at best average faces
-No description or Instagram only
-If there is a description, it's always super generic: "Guess who's a foodie and love traveling?"

About Tinder and its algorithm

I got almost 20 likes in the first 30mins, after that it went dead. One like or 2 per day. I consider that I have a "good" profile, pictures are ok (some pro pics, some candid pics), "normal" description. I suspect Tinder to give a quick boost to your profile in the first hours by showing your profile to bottom tier profiles and then reduce its visibility to almost invisible. I got only 1 match with a cute girl, she never replied my message.

What it does is you get a high and then a down, you immediately want to buy premium services to get more matches, unfortunately it doesn't really work, it doesn't change anything (from my previous experiences). You will escalate from tinder+ to tinder gold and finally tinder platinum. It just blows my mind how Match Group Inc has become greedy, men don't stand a chance. A girl at school, (HB 4-5) showed me her Tinder, she had a endless list of matches and messages, from above average guys! I couldn't believe it. Completely different reality for women.

About Bumble

They moderate your pictures for whatever stupid reason. I got one of my picture removed because the picture showed me in action while shooting a model, I guess it's too sexist for them, it's completely retarded. Got less likes than Tinder, and while swiping left I cancelled all of them, so all the girls that had liked me were sh1t. Since then, nothing. Looks like Bumble is now using the same tactics for making you pay premium, it was not like that before. Got one match, she didn't message me.

About Hinge

A lot of fatties. You can only like 5-6 profiles per day. I think the prompts is a bad idea, usually it makes the girls look even more stupid and generic, I mean if you don't have anything interesting to say, shut the fck up. Got 1 match, she never replied to my message. Then nothing, no activity. It's look like it always the same ugly profiles looping over and over.

---
So I think that yes women over evaluate their SMV and have become more picky, but the system of OLD is against men. It's not that men don't get swiped right (well, less and less) but more that men profiles have no visibility. How can you get matches is your profile is shown once in a while? It makes men insecure, which doesn't help for men that have already confidence and self-esteem issues. I got 4-5 lays with Tinder but it was 3-4 years ago.

OLD is crap, I prefer to cold approach, I might not get a high ROI but at least I can choose which girl I want to talk to, it improves my social skills, it forces me to approach and reduces my approach anxiety, and at least I don't contribute to this system made by those c0cksuckers at Match Group. It only makes men miserable, weak and disposable. It's weird society we're living in, OLD is psychologically as toxic/addictive as smoking/drugs/alcohol but it's available on the App Store, I prefer to stay away from it. Our society is going down the toilet, I can't help but to be pessimistic, I honestly see no hope, it's going to get worse.

A more enjoyable alternative to online dating is shooting yourself in the face with a stapler gun.

 

[corrector]

I'd be an incel if it wasn't for OLD

Why? People would call the police on you if you cold approached?

 

[Stuffnu]

Girls on OLDs will always be left over table scraps.
Treat it as such…

 

[mikedee]

Surprisingly I got 2 "nice" matches on Badoo, do you use Badoo in the US?

 

[DonJuanjr]

I'm thinking there may be better success with newer dating sites. There needs to be some kind of difference so a new site can compete with the established ones. They may see that the algorithims that are skewed against men on the established sites are disparaging men and may have more fair algorithms.

 

[patb]

And yet it’s the only way I can get laid. Very interesting

95% of my bangs are from OLD, even though I've been making an effort to 'diversify' lately. It's kind of a malignant dependency, almost like the "resource curse--" it delivers just enough that it stunts your broader development.

And yes, the quality is distinctly substandard. It's been very damaging over the years, I think.

 

[SargeMaximus]

95% of my bangs are from OLD, even though I've been making an effort to 'diversify' lately. It's kind of a malignant dependency, almost like the "resource curse--" it delivers just enough that it stunts your broader development.

And yes, the quality is distinctly substandard. It's been very damaging over the years, I think.

Meh. I started with cold approach. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I adapted to my experiences and found what worked for me

 

[The Duke]

I'm thinking there may be better success with newer dating sites. There needs to be some kind of difference so a new site can compete with the established ones. They may see that the algorithims that are skewed against men on the established sites are disparaging men and may have more fair algorithms.

These dating sites work the best for guys when they are new. As they get established and have more members they find more ways to profit off the males and his results decline. Also, women are really trendy, they gravitate towards whatever is shiny and new.

Once "everybody" is on it, the top people leave.

There was a time POF, Tinder, and Bumble all worked well. When Hinge first came out it was amazing. Few guys knew about it. It was so good, I refused to mention it on here. I didn't want my honey hole jeopardized.

 

[patb]

Meh. I started with cold approach. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result. I adapted to my experiences and found what worked for me

Fair enough. I really only find cold approach enjoyable when I'm dead drunk (but it can be quite the experience in that case).

 

[threeforfree]

Surprisingly I got 2 "nice" matches on Badoo, do you use Badoo in the US?

I do. And it’s great for out of country. I let likes pile up and then pay the $9 for a week to go through the list. Meeting a semi local from Brazil as soon as I get time.

Also, Bumble. It’s only like $100 for a lifetime subscription. Don’t be cheap.

 

[Jake_Gyllenhaal69]

I'm so glad I don't rely on OLD as my only option to get laid. But if it works for you, good. I just wonder what kind of girl you get on there.

I get decent girls lol

Why? People would call the police on you if you cold approached?

cold approach is not for black men

 

[mikedee]

cold approach is not for black men

Why do you say that?

 

[mikedee]

I do. And it’s great for out of country. I let likes pile up and then pay the $9 for a week to go through the list. Meeting a semi local from Brazil as soon as I get time.

Also, Bumble. It’s only like $100 for a lifetime subscription. Don’t be cheap.

I'm not cheap, but 100$ sounds like a lot of money to get 0 match/some matches with hb 3-4. I approach 8s, 9s and 10s on the street for free and I get dates.

 

[corrector]

Why do you say that?

He doesn't want his life ruined on a cold-approach by some karen. Plus when women treat you with suspicion and tend to back away it is not exactly condusive to any seduction.

 

[threeforfree]

I'm not cheap, but 100$ sounds like a lot of money to get 0 match/some matches with hb 3-4. I approach 8s, 9s and 10s on the street for free and I get dates.

It’s great in some areas. Maybe while you’re vacationing. Or if you move. When you look at what other services charge per month, it doesn’t take long for the lifetime subscription to be a screaming deal. It’s the cost of one or two dates.

 

[BackInTheGame78]

Never tried Tinder but based on what I have heard probably never will. I clean up on Bumble and Hinge tho.