I really miss the RSDnation forums

[DEEZEDBRAH]

There are PUAs out there who have systems for maximizing results on swipe apps and Insta. There were more issues developing with night game prior to the pandemic. Night game isn't happening much now with the Rona.

Play with fire is one all about the OLD. I don't think fellas can avoid ig or tinder. It's a good place to source. I definitely have a preference. Not too familiar with the other stuff. I remember jlaix had ETP. It is to rapid to be excluded tbh. Several of my mates pulled girls or GFs off ig or apps. Been enjoying the London model during pandemic. At the risk of sounding based, it just a better use of time when out. Particularly, a trip to the gym, grocery shopping or a outdoor workout. There's no two ways about it. It's all work.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Agree completely.

I saw a fella on steroids throw a hissy fit because he couldn't approach at the patio outdoor bar. Very funny. This is a example of unmarriageable. Far from the sort of lad I would want for a sister or cousin.

 

[MatureDJ]

I really miss the RSDnation forums! Anyone else feel the same?
Anyone know what happened to them? I'm assuming now that they're gone for good which sucks.

There has been a certain arc of history in the heterosexual men's sexual world which has left many of my cohort (i.e., early Gen-X) with a sexual landscape that has turned to utter nuclear devastation.

In junior high school, the teenyboppers were all over us; yes, they would dump us after a few weeks, but there was always someone else that was decently attractive that would chase us. High school was not quite as good, but it still seemed like it was not too hard, at least for lads going to a regular non-sex-segregated high school - as opposed to the one that folks like me & Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh attended (he is the only major politician that has an article at the Incel Wiki ). Then college came around - and this was back in the days before coeds started greatly outnumbering men - and it got a bit harder as coeds were being pounced by the cohort just older than us.

Then once we got out of college, the coeds that we were supposed to be pouncing on (and winning, since we were college men just like the students, but out of college and beginning to BetaBux) were less in number. However, as there was a cohort of women that were just a little older that was more numerous, we could CougarMax for a little while. But then these older women started to get a bit older, getting married of becoming single mommies ... and then the Dark Times came.

At some point in the mid 90s, the dating market seemed to utterly freeze up; single, attractive women just disappeared from the social scene entirely. This collapse was presaged by a collapse for non-college men, and brought about the first wave of electronic-facilitated-dating known as the 800-number "date lines", but this gradually morphed into the early online-dating scene, first with profiles without photos, but quickly with photos - and since virtually all the profiles were of land whales or trannies , the first glimpse of the pestilence that was to come. The only upside was the facilitation of LocationMaxxing.

About this time, the internet also allowed for the blossoming of the Game Industry. Yes, there were always a books like "How to Pick Up Girls" that could be found at major bookstore or in the classifieds of journals like Penthouse, but The Game really took off with the widespread adoption of the internet. The growing cohort of desperate men felt at first that this new discovery of knowledge was the key, but soon enough they came to realize that Game only worked for Chaddish-tier men, hence the gradual movement of men from PUA to memes like PUAHate in which these PUA adherents commiserated about how The Game was not working. The dawning of the realization that PUA will not help most men was recognized by the early prophets of the True Forced Loneliness meme, with "Roller" Steve Hoca expounding on the true darkness of the situation. Of course, there is the well-known 5-letter word to describe the ultimate repository of these men that finally learned the truth of their situation.

OLD then transformed from a meme that seemed to place importance to things that were not LooksMoneyStatus. The first clink in the armor was the homosexual dating site Grindr, which put out the meme that the only thing that mattered in dating is raw good looks - and of course, since that is pretty much ALL that matters to these men, it exploded (pun NOT intended). With internet pornography gradually devolving the heterosexual community, the time was ripe for the most consequential thing to human mating since The Pill - of course, I'm talking about Tinder, aka Grindr for heterosexuals.

What Tinder did was in essence retailize dating goods. Just like grocery stores became enormously huge and offering just about any product from any producer, large or small, so did Tinder put sexuality itself on the shelf. But it also brought home the full weight of the dystopia for most heterosexual men as they had enormously poor ratios of swiping to actual first-dating. And once women started flocking to Tinder, the barrenness of the "night game" scene expanded to the social-network-game scene; whereas a man who had a good social network could still hope to find a gem, in the age of Tinder, such gems have already been corrupted by the onslaught of attention from the starving, desperate men there. Even church-game - which had always been considered as the least corruptible - has been corrupted.

And then following on from Tinder came OnlyFans & Patreon, creating a dating marketplace where men have to fight it out by financially supporting women just to get her to acknowledge their existence and the social interaction of a "thank you" for the gift. Ironically, this has reached full circle, going back to an era where suitors would buy gifts for women they hoped to court. Of course, while such men would be in a relatively small enough pool that most would be ultimately successful, the pool is now is boundless, and only Chad - who didn't need to give any gifts or attention - is getting the poon.

I think we are about to hit the inflection point of the decline in our Mouse Utopia experiment.

 

[SW15]

Been enjoying the London model during pandemic. At the risk of sounding based, it just a better use of time when out. Particularly, a trip to the gym, grocery shopping or a outdoor workout. There's no two ways about it. It's all work.

There are a lot of reasons why non-bar day approaching is a better, more sustainable option than approaching at bars/nightclubs or using the swipe apps. When doing grocery pickup over the years, I lingered at the grocery store for 1-2 hours per store. Without trying to do approaches, my grocery visits have taken less time.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

There has been a certain arc of history in the heterosexual men's sexual world which has left many of my cohort (i.e., early Gen-X) with a sexual landscape that has turned to utter nuclear devastation.

Mr Clarey loves to rip them and boomere a new one. And not surprising. Enjoying the decline is the best medicine. The jack podcast where the two dissect the coming wave of left over waman was superb. I cannot wait to see what the outcome is. I will have my popcorn out and my troll cannon charger up to the max. Lulz!

In junior high school, the teenyboppers were all over us; yes, they would dump us after a few weeks, but there was always someone else that was decently attractive that would chase us. High school was not quite as good, but it still seemed like it was not too hard, at least for lads going to a regular non-sex-segregated high school - as opposed to the one that folks like me & Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh attended (he is the only major politician that has an article at the Incel Wiki ). Then college came around - and this was back in the days before coeds started greatly outnumbering men - and it got a bit harder as coeds were being pounced by the cohort just older than us.

ANGER IS USEFUL IF DIRECTED AND AS A VEHICLE TO MOTIVATE YOU TOWARDS A BETTER NOW. Futile there otherwise imho.

Then once we got out of college, the coeds that we were supposed to be pouncing on (and winning, since we were college men just like the students, but out of college and beginning to BetaBux) were less in number. However, as there was a cohort of women that were just a little older that was more numerous, we could CougarMax for a little while. But then these older women started to get a bit older, getting married of becoming single mommies ... and then the Dark Times came.

Imho its a dark time now. Even your biggest soy boy and blue pill cuck has the red pill and hypergamy nuked in his face. Whether or not he is actually doing something is irrelevant. Man cannot get away from the reality. Its so in your face. And women are so unbearable beyond busting nuts. After a lifetime, a decade + of pickup, I can count a handful of awesome women yet ZERO i would marry. Its telling that the focus is on everything from career and carousel to children as fallback. Men are not of any interest to western women beyond the tingles and the attention seeking.

At some point in the mid 90s, the dating market seemed to utterly freeze up; single, attractive women just disappeared from the social scene entirely. This collapse was presaged by a collapse for non-college men, and brought about the first wave of electronic-facilitated-dating known as the 800-number "date lines", but this gradually morphed into the early online-dating scene, first with profiles without photos, but quickly with photos - and since virtually all the profiles were of land whales or trannies , the first glimpse of the pestilence that was to come. The only upside was the facilitation of LocationMaxxing.

I sort of have to agree with Rollo and acknowledge there's no way back. Only way is forward and the ideas of what men seek is simply not on the menu as Cappy will say. The biggest problem with monogamy is that, the past 60 yrs, women have offered nothing but used goods to a man. Ran through and he's supposed to be plan Z. Now Chad and a Tyrone are done hitting it.

For optics, it makes for a cute pic, and ig but it's not real life.

The reality is that women don't need men anymore BECAUSE DADDY GOVERNMENT AND SIMPS.

About this time, the internet also allowed for the blossoming of the Game Industry. Yes, there were always a books like "How to Pick Up Girls" that could be found at major bookstore or in the classifieds of journals like Penthouse, but The Game really took off with the widespread adoption of the internet. The growing cohort of desperate men felt at first that this new discovery of knowledge was the key, but soon enough they came to realize that Game only worked for Chaddish-tier men, hence the gradual movement of men from PUA to memes like PUAHate in which these PUA adherents commiserated about how The Game was not working. The dawning of the realization that PUA will not help most men was recognized by the early prophets of the True Forced Loneliness meme, with "Roller" Steve Hoca expounding on the true darkness of the situation. Of course, there is the well-known 5-letter word to describe the ultimate repository of these men that finally learned the truth of their situation.

The biggest thing is fellas looking for a cheat code rather than putting in work? There are far richer people, better looking fellas here or elsewhere, taller or more status then me. Guys don't approach and if you are to check metrics here or elsewhere, it's less than 1%. Most fellas don't have any balls to approach. They cling to not getting rejected or waman come to them. Ya, ok bud. 10s are falling out of the sky and landing on their cawk.

Yes, a lot of pua is marketing. MM is dated. Rsd is pretty much dead BUT IT SHED LIGHT ON GAME. It showed what was possible if you go out, approach, and take your shot.

Let's be cereal for a sec. There's nothing new. A miniscule amount of men got a majority of the women. Its been this way since the dawn of time. It will always be this way. There's no easy way to get the gurlz. You play the hand you are dealt. Or not.

OLD then transformed from a meme that seemed to place importance to things that were not LooksMoneyStatus. The first clink in the armor was the homosexual dating site Grindr, which put out the meme that the only thing that mattered in dating is raw good looks - and of course, since that is pretty much ALL that matters to these men, it exploded (pun NOT intended). With internet pornography gradually devolving the heterosexual community, the time was ripe for the most consequential thing to human mating since The Pill - of course, I'm talking about Tinder, aka Grindr for heterosexuals.

What Tinder did was in essence retailize dating goods. Just like grocery stores became enormously huge and offering just about any product from any producer, large or small, so did Tinder put sexuality itself on the shelf. But it also brought home the full weight of the dystopia for most heterosexual men as they had enormously poor ratios of swiping to actual first-dating. And once women started flocking to Tinder, the barrenness of the "night game" scene expanded to the social-network-game scene; whereas a man who had a good social network could still hope to find a gem, in the age of Tinder, such gems have already been corrupted by the onslaught of attention from the starving, desperate men there. Even church-game - which had always been considered as the least corruptible - has been corrupted.

Nicely put. Church game? Lulz aware me? Is this where you pretend to be a Christian and then BAM PREGNANT?

And then following on from Tinder came OnlyFans & Patreon, creating a dating marketplace where men have to fight it out by financially supporting women just to get her to acknowledge their existence and the social interaction of a "thank you" for the gift. Ironically, this has reached full circle, going back to an era where suitors would buy gifts for women they hoped to court. Of course, while such men would be in a relatively small enough pool that most would be ultimately successful, the pool is now is boundless, and only Chad - who didn't need to give any gifts or attention - is getting the poon.

not Chad bruv nor Tyrone (definitely not). The amount of output is ridiculous but again, wtf the ****kkk is the alternative?

I think we are about to hit the inflection point of the decline in our Mouse Utopia experiment.

Find solace in enjoying the decline. Pillage what you can. And troll harder.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

There are a lot of reasons why non-bar day approaching is a better, more sustainable option than approaching at bars/nightclubs or using the swipe apps. When doing grocery pickup over the years, I lingered at the grocery store for 1-2 hours per store. Without trying to do approaches, my grocery visits have taken less time.

There's an amount of pickup and game down where the sensory input has downloaded to the point of getting it. Spotting high interest vs low interest level. Notice the IOIs, choosing signals, eye ****ing, and being checked out. Seeing her doing the double take; check you out, look away, and then, immediately back again. Its noting her stifled, almost frozen, and the bambii/anime eyes. She may play with her hair or do something else in the form of preening. Touching her neck or stretching. The options are endless. I ****ing love it. I love the game. I enjoy the chase. Its annoying and frustrating at times of IG and only fans. The endless stream of thots and attention *****s. It is what it is.

I don't disagree. I really enjoy the London model and day game. I am currently reading the old Krauser works on day game mastery. Just out of curiosity. I simply don't have the time to piss away nights out in a club or bar with skanks who work in fast food or are cam *****s. The ROI is **** but, my D won't suck it self. I ran through the clubs prior to lockdowns in London with the flame thrower like Hank scorpio on steroids.

One of the best clubs ever but the female entitlement was off the charts. Was swinging at air most of the night. Still ended up getting a throater night end on a random girls balcony. It's hilarious to be getting rejected and a series of "failures" all night and then, having your **** in the back of a random girls throat 20min later. It adds a funny element busting in her mouth later. Zero ****s given.

Herein lies the difference between half stepping and forward energy. The diff between walking on egg shells or cannon balling ALL-in. This is the classic example of running to the finish line or running through the finish line. The optics look very similar but the outcome is night and day difference. This is going through the fire. And you come out the other end changed. You transcend. You cannot be the same thereafter.

Peterson gives the example of burning away deadwood comes to mind.

1-2 hrs is wild. I am 10-15min TOPS. More flash game then slow playing it (although, slow playing can be better especially in day game or so I found). Enthusiasm and high (not low) energy seems to be clutch or so I found. Assumed attraction, approach like you already smashed and went ass to mouth. Delusional as ****kkk but indifference ftw! As in, i already got mine, aloof, nonchalant, zero ****s given.

I always practice discretion. It is key and it shows social equity. Finding means to get #s or to pull mid day is problem solving. I once suggested we sit in her car after coffee because she said she was cold. I busted in her mouth in a grocery store parking lot across from the coffee shop.

The path seems more circular than linear.

 

[apotheosis]

Anyway, since this old post of mine has been bumped, I should mention i'm very much 'over' it.
I don't care that RSDnation isn't around anymore, or that there aren't any 'good' PUA forums.
When I made that post I didn't have as much experience as I do now and I was basically in the wrong headspace thinking there was more to 'learn'

With experience and time, I realise that it would have been a waste of time as I really don't have any faith in 'game' anymore. (in terms of it's original goal as promised to people)

it's so clear to me now that 'game' is really fairly inconsequential (within reason).
It's not something to bother trying to 'learn' in the form of learning theory and lines and complicating it all. Writing FR's and looking for feedback etc etc.

This pickup stuff is simple. If a girl thinks you're kinda hot, you need just enough 'game' to be considered normal! That's about it. You also need to have the balls to escalate

If she DOESN'T think you are hot/cute, then there are no magic PUA verbals / bodylanguage / Neuro Linguistic programming lines / self amusement etc etc that is gonna make her wanna **** you

 

[r4zorsharp]

Sound mad little. How about a smile?

I love a thread about pickup and someone who doesn't approach and had never seen a vagina before wants to add in their two cents. Insert rhetoric not all waman.

Scream misogyny. Gotta love captain phaggotry. Thanks for coming sparky.

You wut m8?

you legit come off as an internet nerd. i'm not going to insult you but i really doubt you have any type of game man. good luck

 

[SW15]

1-2 hrs is wild. I am 10-15min TOPS. More flash game then slow playing it (although, slow playing can be better especially in day game or so I found). Enthusiasm and high (not low) energy seems to be clutch or so I found. Assumed attraction, approach like you already smashed and went ass to mouth. Delusional as ****kkk but indifference ftw! As in, i already got mine, aloof, nonchalant, zero ****s given.

I found that I needed at least 1-2 hours in grocery stores to do enough approaches to find viable candidates. In 15 minutes, I might not see anyone worthwhile.

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

Anyway, since this old post of mine has been bumped, I should mention i'm very much 'over' it.
I don't care that RSDnation isn't around anymore, or that there aren't any 'good' PUA forums.
When I made that post I didn't have as much experience as I do now and I was basically in the wrong headspace thinking there was more to 'learn'

With experience and time, I realise that it would have been a waste of time as I really don't have any faith in 'game' anymore. (in terms of it's original goal as promised to people)

it's so clear to me now that 'game' is really fairly inconsequential (within reason).
It's not something to bother trying to 'learn' in the form of learning theory and lines and complicating it all. Writing FR's and looking for feedback etc etc.

This pickup stuff is simple. If a girl thinks you're kinda hot, you need just enough 'game' to be considered normal! That's about it. You also need to have the balls to escalate

If she DOESN'T think you are hot/cute, then there are no magic PUA verbals / bodylanguage / Neuro Linguistic programming lines / self amusement etc etc that is gonna make her wanna **** you

I don't disagree with most of this. Theory is red pill. Marriage. Not getting girls. Its gay. Really gayyyy. It might be sound advice but but if no receipts and you sell stuff, it's not believable. FRs are a poor waste of time. A guy on mystery old forums got caught. Stupidity.

A lot of fellas would be better for learning game. Most are low t don't approach but got a opinion despite never seeing vagina before. Has a red pill channel lulz.

Somewhat between mode1 and approach

 

[DEEZEDBRAH]

I found that I needed at least 1-2 hours in grocery stores to do enough approaches to find viable candidates. In 15 minutes, I might not see anyone worthwhile.

Are you trolling lol