I quit

[tick37]

I'm glad you quit because if that's all you're ever looking for, you'll never have it. You need to stop caring.

 

[Mad Manic]

Getting a pretty girl is really hard or quite easy, it's not really in between. You're either in the right social circles and know the right kind of people or you're not. You either have the social status and looks or you don't. Hence why for some it's no problem, for others too hard.

MM

 

[Effington]

Don't quit. If a loser like me can get laid anybody can. You have to start with the basics.

That made me laugh.

 

[Juan_Man]

after trying everything to have a woman in my life, starting by changing my mindset, then my attitude and my style / body i guess it didnt work. maybe some guys like me are destined to not having a woman in their lifes, woman became so shallow and picky that i cant do anything to fight that. i'm not good looking so i guess i have to live without one, after all you still can be happy without one.

good luck to you guys

For every guy who has given up on finding a woman in his life, there are five women who have given up on finding the right guy in their lives.

 

[DJVladdy]

Sup Juan, are you being serious, or you just said a phrase that looks and sounds poetic (nothing wrong with that, I sometimes use those too, lol)

 

[Eaglecreek]

I'll miss you :crackup:

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Getting a pretty girl is really hard or quite easy, it's not really in between. You're either in the right social circles and know the right kind of people or you're not. You either have the social status and looks or you don't. Hence why for some it's no problem, for others too hard.

MM

C'mon dude...thats a limiting belief. So far from my experience in the game, at first it can seem really hard and so out of reach...but once u get the experience and u keep going out there....it can get easier. The game is not always black or white, its gray. About the social circles, so what? So what if ur not really in one currently? There are guys who don't really got a big social circle and got mad game. Gonna let that stop you? If you don't got the looks either? So what. In my opinion, use what u got. The average can be more handsome if they change their look. But if ur talking about guys who try in general, i agree...they factors those in for the reason they believe they fail.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

after trying everything to have a woman in my life, starting by changing my mindset, then my attitude and my style / body i guess it didnt work.

How do you know that it won't work ever? Just cuz u haven't had luck so far, that means that u'll never succeed? How long u been at it?

maybe some guys like me are destined to not having a woman in their lifes, woman became so shallow and picky that i cant do anything to fight that.

I know ur frustrated man, we all go through this in the game. At a point where the game is so difficult, we flat out don't see the point of continuing and just want to end all the frustration and the effort seeming to go to waste. BUT, its a test. Its only a test. Its a test to see ur dedication and ur willpower. Look at many great inventors, athletes, and people who are at the top. Most of those people have met failure countless times before and were at the breaking point of quiting. I agree, some guys aren't destined to have the women they want in their lives but its because they don't try and never will open themselves to it. They'll never try to take care of that feeling.
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i'm not good looking so i guess i have to live without one, after all you still can be happy without one.

For most men out there who don't got a female companion or haven't really been in the company of a woman, its a dark cloud hovering over them. When guys are like, "I don't need women...im perfectly happy" Truly look at the situation and take what they say as a grain of salt. Be honest with yourself, do u believe u would be truly happy without a female companion? Be honest with urself. Also about u not being good looking, u can be good looking if u put the effort. U could go to the gym and put on some bulk or cut. Ur looks will go up that way.

good luck to you guys

Good luck to you man! I know in the end u'll say u'll quit, but u never will. TRUST ME! U will never quit! Don't quit! Remember ur goal! Ur closer than u think. If u really do need some help, seek as much as u can dude! There are quite a few guys there to help!

 

[My Name is Nobody]

I can't stand these 20 year old kids wanting to quit. Just keep trying. I'm having the most fun in my life (with women) and I'm close to 30. It took long enough. Why? BECAUSE I QUIT when I was around 22-25. Don't make the same mistake I did.

 

[Effington]

Sup Juan, are you being serious, or you just said a phrase that looks and sounds poetic (nothing wrong with that, I sometimes use those too, lol)

Did you know that 69% of all statistics are made up? Oh yeah, it's true.

I recently found out that the craziest, most obnoxious, weird, 300 lb. overweight mammoth I know has some secret life on the internet where she has a bunch of naked pictures and hooks up with random men all the time. It's disturbing.

Ok, I'm not really sure where I was going with this, but I guess if she can get it on with a bunch of people, any woman can. I don't think any women have problems if they actually put themselves out there. They seem to be more concerned about looking easy.

 

[Mad Manic]

C'mon dude...thats a limiting belief. So far from my experience in the game, at first it can seem really hard and so out of reach...but once u get the experience and u keep going out there....it can get easier. The game is not always black or white, its gray. About the social circles, so what? So what if ur not really in one currently? There are guys who don't really got a big social circle and got mad game. Gonna let that stop you? If you don't got the looks either? So what. In my opinion, use what u got. The average can be more handsome if they change their look. But if ur talking about guys who try in general, i agree...they factors those in for the reason they believe they fail.

I think people on this site need to be more honest, rather than putting on a show to make themselves and others feel better. I mean I read things on here and it doesn't really correlate with what I see in real life. In real life, I see that things like social circles, ethnicity and to some extent looks/body (but lesser and overhyped) determine who hooks up with who. You say you know people with mad game, by mad game I think you're referring to guys who are great at chatting up girls, keeping their attention and whatnot. But the guys who end up having sex are the ones who tick the boxes, not the ones with a clever tongue, in general.

I mean who is the pretty blonde white girl at university dating? The 28 year old guy with 'mad game' she sees in the club or the white middle class guy playing rugby at uni? I've heard lots of wonderfully crafted stories about foreign guys or short guys or guys with no social circle talking his way into a hot girls pants but in real life these guys just chat up the girls in clubs and it's the usual guys who actually sex/go out/spend time with girls.

I think this site needs way more emphasis on getting yourself into the right position so that your social status is higher and you are in the mix of getting a pretty girl. You need to be friends with the cool guys, going to the cool parties and whatnot. Not going to a nightclub alone or with a shy guy, talking to girls, getting numbers which all turn out to be flakes because your social proof/status isn't high enough.

MM

 

[ExcelNPrevail]

Dont even think about quitting. I cannot tell you how many times I've failed constantly as I progressed with my life and women. Never have i ever though about quitting. As one of my friends said," Quitting is the easiest alternative to take, which is why i dont take it." Anybody can fcukin quit, but how many people win. You sure as hell won't be that "winner" with this kind of attitude.

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

I think people on this site need to be more honest, rather than putting on a show to make themselves and others feel better. I mean I read things on here and it doesn't really correlate with what I see in real life. In real life, I see that things like social circles, ethnicity and to some extent looks/body (but lesser and overhyped) determine who hooks up with who.

I am being honest. I have to agree with u in a few points. There have been people on this site who def aren't honest. They have no credibility whatsoever with the advice they give. Not trying to prove to anyone anything. But reading things on here and what u don't see in real life.... Well frankly, most guys don't got game in real life...so of course ur not gonna see it that often. Yes, ethnicity, social circle, and looks/body can determine who u hook up with BUT don't forget...thats the not the ONLY thing to determine a hook up. Just cuz u don't see it that "often", doesn't mean that it isn't true. Its like this, on my campus...no one really cold approaches much(I've been there 4 years and have yet to see a day cold approach)...does that mean, u can't hook up that way? No. Who cares if there are some thing u don't got, gonna let that stop u from hooking with hot girls? I don't think so. Use what u got and get out there.

You say you know people with mad game, by mad game I think you're referring to guys who are great at chatting up girls, keeping their attention and whatnot. But the guys who end up having sex are the ones who tick the boxes, not the ones with a clever tongue, in general.

No, i actually know guys with mad game. I know a guy who i took advice from, he's gotten laid by lots of girls and a good amount of them have been really really hot. He doesn't got the social proof other guys have, he's a 5'5 asian guy and doesn't have that good of looks...yet he still pulls good ass. He is just a very confident guy who dresses like a playboy, got lots of confidence. I know another guy in the community, he gets ONS now and then(his name is QuickKill....go to www.metrodcpua.com/mybb...register and look up his LRs and Frs)...but he has really good game. So yes, i do know guys.

I mean who is the pretty blonde white girl at university dating? The 28 year old guy with 'mad game' she sees in the club or the white middle class guy playing rugby at uni?

The thing is the 28 yr old guy prolly only wants to hook up with her, while the guy playing ruby is dating her. The guy with mad game has lots of options and she's just one of many girls he sees. She aint anything special, just one of them. She'd want the guy with mad game more deep down. Despite his status and looks, she'll be drawn to the guy with mad game. Why? Because the guy with rugby only got status on his side. Now will some girls just flat out pick the rugby guy? Sure why not. But r u gonna care of the low amount of girls when there are a **** load others who are even hotter and better for you? Course not.

I've heard lots of wonderfully crafted stories about foreign guys or short guys or guys with no social circle talking his way into a hot girls pants but in real life these guys just chat up the girls in clubs and it's the usual guys who actually sex/go out/spend time with girls.

See..quote...usual. Usual =/= absolute. I've repeated myself but understand that.

I think this site needs way more emphasis on getting yourself into the right position so that your social status is higher and you are in the mix of getting a pretty girl. You need to be friends with the cool guys, going to the cool parties and whatnot. Not going to a nightclub alone or with a shy guy, talking to girls, getting numbers which all turn out to be flakes because your social proof/status isn't high enough.

I disagree with this. You can do what u want. If u don't give a **** about a social status and just want to get lots of girls. Then thats fine. Not all guys care about social status, and just want lots of girls. Where's the evidence that its not? "Oh becuase it doesn't happen often" No sh1t. Thats why we're unique, we do stuff thats out of the ordinary.

The two guys i mentioned....one of them goes to the club by himself and pulls. He brings himself and him flat out talking to girls at the club gives him that social status by default. And some guys don't just want a pretty girl, they want tons of them. You can be friends with who u want to. If other people don't find them cool? Who gives a damn...what matters if that ur happy with them and that u got the amount of girls u have in ur life. If parties aren't ur thing? U can still do day game and pull girls there. Stop assuming that u have to have social status or social proof to get lots of girls. Sure, its an easier way but not absolute. Just create ur own social proof by picking up a girl. Thats it. Hell one girl whom wasn't drawn to me much when i first me her, since i wasn't in the fraternity she usually goes to, lately she was eyeing me like sh1t when she saw me gaming girls in the cafeteria and yet, i wasn't even in a frat.

How do i know this? Because eventho i haven't gotten the success i want yet, based on experience going out and meeting people that have game...i believe what im saying is plausible.

In conclusion, So if u don't got social status or proof...who cares. U urself are social proof. Why? Because u can get women.

 

[Shyyhs]

after trying everything to have a woman in my life, starting by changing my mindset, then my attitude and my style / body i guess it didnt work. maybe some guys like me are destined to not having a woman in their lifes, woman became so shallow and picky that i cant do anything to fight that. i'm not good looking so i guess i have to live without one, after all you still can be happy without one.

good luck to you guys

Don't give up, just give up this forum. Everyone here thinks they're king shit and try to validate themselves from the forum. Stroking their ego while they masturbate alone. Goto another forum. The less active, the better. Active forums signify people that sit around and validate themselves, rather than being off the computer plowing chicks.

Don't blame yourself. You rock. Blame the information, ie: this site.

 

[Juan_Man]

Sup Juan, are you being serious, or you just said a phrase that looks and sounds poetic (nothing wrong with that, I sometimes use those too, lol)

It was meant to be poetic and insightful but I'm pretty sure it's true.

 

[slitherjef]

Don't quit. If a loser like me can get laid anybody can. You have to start with the basics.

MNIN, Define yourself "as a loser"

 

[DonJoseCantosie]

Don't give up, just give up this forum. Everyone here thinks they're king shit and try to validate themselves from the forum. Stroking their ego while they masturbate alone. Goto another forum. The less active, the better. Active forums signify people that sit around and validate themselves, rather than being off the computer plowing chicks.

Don't blame yourself. You rock. Blame the information, ie: this site.

I agree man. Too many guys here think they're the sh1t and lie about the success they got. They got no credibility what so ever. Stephane, for example, he said to me he got a 90% success rate when we were arguing direct vs. indirect. I told him that most guys direct guys overall got a 20% success rate and he said he got a 90% success rate with indirect(lay = overall success). After reading his journal, def pure bull on his part. Not hatin on u Stephane, u just flat out lied. Who are the guys that are credible? The ones who got FRs and will admit at the level they are at.

The reason i stay in this forum and post is because of the high traffic rate, plus i got a journal i mine as well post to finish.Also, there are a few other guys who have journals i want to see their updates. And i agree, too many guys think the Don Juan Bible is the ultimate book. Well frankly, in my opinion, its not that good compared to other stuff out there. Having tried the bootcamp and got nowhere with it, i can say so. I find the stuff in the community is better.

Better sites by default:

1) RSDNation(Not enough sub forums but def good of guys going out there)
2) Mystery Method/Venusian Arts Forums(Atleast the guys go out there and don't ask AFC questions)
3) YourDateDoctor a.k.a Direct Method(A very good forum in my opinion of guys going out there, just not that known)
4) Zenmack dot com(Player Supreme's site. 5 dollars. I haven't joined it, but from what i've heard about it and being a member of his former site....it is pretty good...PS himself gives tough love but it helps)
5) Fast Seduction(biggest seduction forum in the world hands down. Better by default)

 

[Joe The Homophobe]

needtoimprove, instead of concentrating on women so much just concentrate on your work/career. Make as much money as you can and buy yourself a mail order bride from eastern europe. Problem solved. No need to work on your game, no need to struggle and to get frustrated like you are now. Just make the dough and buy the girl later. You shouldn't resign to loneliness.

the problem might not be you but the corrupt western women that surround you. I personally will take a somewhat similar route. I will keep on playing the game with american chicks and just try to master the game as a hobbie. When i get bored of all this superficial b|tches I will buy me a bride.

 

[drak_ool]

after trying everything to have a woman in my life

Does that mean that by now you re rich? I got news for you, if everything else fails, becoming rich will get you women in your life, so if you re not there yet please don't say you tried EVERYTHING

and what is the point of this thread? you want us to fell bad for you for being a loser?