I played this girl too much, now she don't want sex because I "must be a player".

[Target_100]

Have you ever been in that situation? This girl sait it straigh out that she only want to be friends because I must be a player... Its better than not getting sex for being an ACF of course, but my tactic now is to just be friends for a while and game her so much that she forgets to be cynical and/or lets her feelings take over.

Wish me luck... Shes about a 7 or 8 so I'll use her for social proof at least.

 

[WaRpEd]

Eh good luck with that.

I have been called out on being "a player" before (even though I don't really consider myself one, their are similar qualities).

I believe I pretended to take it very offensively, and I told her to get the hell out of my place. She freaked out, apologized and everything returned to was as it was.

It might be a little late for that though. However, persitance is very valuable.

Don't let her slow you down though, go out and get other girls.

 

[MikeYikes122]

At some point, you should let a girl you're gaming know that you like her. That doesn't mean that you should break down and tell her that she is your soulmate or something ghey like that. But after the two of you have spent a lot of time together, and you've qualified her enough, you can go ahead and tell her that you like her or that you enjoy spending time around her. Just use your best discretion and don't make it too AFC.

That's what I do, at least.

Or, if she has let you into her pants before you've done something like this, a good time to let her know that you like her would be after you've had sex.

IMO, girls are insecure and they need a some verification, something they can latch onto and disarm their ASDs with. If you don't let her know that you like her, she'll probably assume you're a player, especially if you've slept with her and you haven't given her any sort of verification/

 

[Target_100]

I asked for sex in a playfull way, and she responded as if I had taken it seriously and said "remember what I told you, I just wanna be friends because you are a player for sure."

So I sez: "Hey I was kidding wth you I could have never been in a relatiosnhip with you. You're not my type of girl for a relationship, but I'd love to hang around as friends if I get the time "

We've had about 3 hours good convo with little kino, but I'm planning on adding more kino soon. Should have probably done it sooner. I'll use the push/pull technique and reward/punish.

This if just one of my current prospects by the way. I just wanna make the most out of it. (And showing her that I don't really care most of the time he he).

 

[MascaraSnake]

You know, you CAN be friends with a woman...I don't know why this board seems to think that's an alien concept. If you did like her at one point, though, don't let it bother you and playfully flirt.

 

[BlakeW5]

You know, you CAN be friends with a woman...I don't know why this board seems to think that's an alien concept. If you did like her at one point, though, don't let it bother you and playfully flirt.

They do find it an alien concept, much like they find being nice to or doing sweet things for a chick to be an alien concept. You know why? Because, and I honestly believe this, 95% of the guys giving "advice" on this board are just as bad with women as the guys asking for answers. Instead of actually trying different concepts with women most of these guys are content with taking advice from the "gurus" aka guys who found a market to exploit by selling crappy advice. The only difference between AFC's and the future don juans/PUAs is that the PUAs justify their failure as the fault of a girls illogical nature, this or that technique not being perfected, or their "inner game" not being tight enough.... LOL. Then again there's the possibility that they tried the AFC method, it didn't work, and they then switched to the exact polar opposite

On the other hand, this site is still helpful, if for no other reason than it gives "romantically unsuccessful" guys a reason to keep trying. It gives them hope that they can become better (and they can!). I guess that explains my love/hate relationship with "the game". Once guys start to realize that relationships and male-female interactions aren't things that you can break down and formulate a game plan for then they'll be better with women.


Finally, to the OP: what makes getting turned down for being a player any better than getting turned down for being AFC. I mean seriously, not trying to bring you down, but either way you got shot down. Whether you went about it the right way or the wrong way the end result was still the same. If you're interested in a relationship with this girl (whether f-buddy, ONS, or LTR) the worst thing you can do is try to be friends with her. Either make your intentions clear or move on. Guys can be "friends" with girls they want to f*ck, girls have friends because they want friends (or because they really don't want to have sex with you but are too nice to completely blow you out).

From your second post (in this thread) you do seem to have a clue on how to talk to women. Don't plan on adding more kino (or anything) though, just do it. You can plan for tomorrow all you want but that doesn't mean tomorrow will ever come. While I can't interpret what she said (tone of voice is key and very important) the words alone just give me this feeling that her "you're a player" excuse is just a nice way of shutting you down.

 

[MikeYikes122]

They do find it an alien concept, much like they find being nice to or doing sweet things for a chick to be an alien concept. You know why? Because, and I honestly believe this, 95% of the guys giving "advice" on this board are just as bad with women as the guys asking for answers.

Then why the fvck are you on this board? If everyone on this board sucks so badly at life, why the hell have you bothered to post here 145 times in the past four months?

I gave advice on this thread because I knew what I was talking about and have been in the OP's situation before. If you want to doubt me, that's fine, but at least try not to sound like a complete chatch in the process.

Doing nice and sweet things for a girl? That is some of the gheyest **** I've ever heard.

If that's what you think is going to get you girls, by all means keep doing it. While you're buying flowers for girls and getting tossed into the friends zone, I'll be fvcking girls and spinning plates. I guess you're just leaving more girls for me.

 

[Perfect10]

Yes, it happes to the best of us but actually it's not because you played her "too good". It's because you played poorly by "playing" with her too much.

Jeez no one is going to understand it like this

Better example:

If you're really good at playing girls, she's not going to notice it and it'll feel natural for her.
But if you "play" her too much as you said... Well that's what's going to happen. She diggs you, no doubt. You just need to back off a little bit and she'll come to you. You're going to get that snatch without problem

 

[Target_100]

........what makes getting turned down for being a player any better than getting turned down for being AFC.

......... the words alone just give me this feeling that her "you're a player" excuse is just a nice way of shutting you down.

1. You are right, but I feel that she feels real attraction for me, and I'm gonna work more with her to fClose. AFC turndown: no chance. Playerturndown: a chance later on.

2. Could be true. I'll find out later.

Thanks for the replyes.

 

[BlakeW5]

Then why the fvck are you on this board? If everyone on this board sucks so badly at life, why the hell have you bothered to post here 145 times in the past four months?

I gave advice on this thread because I knew what I was talking about and have been in the OP's situation before. If you want to doubt me, that's fine, but at least try not to sound like a complete chatch in the process.

Doing nice and sweet things for a girl? That is some of the gheyest **** I've ever heard.

If that's what you think is going to get you girls, by all means keep doing it. While you're buying flowers for girls and getting tossed into the friends zone, I'll be fvcking girls and spinning plates. I guess you're just leaving more girls for me.

I'm on this board because it's helped me (I'm not scared to admit that) and I feel I can help others. I never said people on this board sucked at life. I said most are bad with women. If they weren't they wouldn't be here, and if you think women define success in life then I feel bad for you. I've been in the OP's situation before too, so don't think that makes you special. I don't doubt you, I don't really care enough to doubt someone I don't know. I never said your method didn't work. I just get tired of hearing everyone spout the same "advice" pretending to be helpful when most of the same people giving advice have never tried it themselves.

The cold fact remains that he got turned down. Regardless of the method, the result was the same. At times like that you have to quit looking at how you went about approaching the situation and look at yourself.

The only thing I really hate about this board is the fact that when someone with a different viewpoint speaks up everyone freaks out. I've never attacked you, yet you try to bully me because I have a different view than you do (and what conventional "pick up" methodology suggests).

You can think that doing nice things for a girl is bs, that's fine. I never suggested he kiss her a@@. The fact remains that at a certain point you have to show a girl you care. Doing something sweet for a girl shows her you care. Debate that, I dare you. When you want to relate to a spaniard you speak spanish, when you want to relate to a woman you speak her language. And for the record that is what gets me girls. I don't do sweet things right out of the gate, I make them earn it. It's a reward. I play the usual push-pull, teasing routine and when they step up to the plate I reward them for it.

And for the record, don't try to call me out on my post count or length of membership. There are plenty or guys here who have been members for years and have thousands or posts who are still virgins (and self-admited at that). I just simply implied that he didn't play the situation right, and you know he didn't. If he did he wouldn't be in the situation he is now. I don't have anything against you, I just don't appreciate being disrespected for having a differing view.