I need serious inner game work, suggestions?

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Thanks but no I can't read dutch. I'm going to the health center at school this week and I plan to talk to somebody about this issue.

Thanks again to everybody who had something helpful to add.
 

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Maxtro forget everything PUA's and stop spending your money on seminars.

From your posts I gather that your problem is that you have weak body language and are afraid to talk.

Read the threads I've created in the past if you don't remember me. We come from the same background and are very alike. Trust me when I say this: you absolutely need to fix your body language before you do ANYTHING else. You sound just like my cousin, and he gets **** all the time behind his back because he seems so weak. It's gotten to the point where we feel sorry for him...
 

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Igetit! said:
The way you talk to and interact with women makes them feel like you need something from them,something that you should already have in yourself.
A woman does NOT want to be a man's savior. She doesn't want to make you "complete". She wants you to already be complete. No woman wants a man who's walking around with some hole in him looking for someone to fill it. She doesn't want to be your life,she wants to be part of you life. If you're walking around all depressed,down in the dumps thinking you'll be happy once you get a woman,this frame of mind will keep you alone. You have to live and be alive NOW,not waiting until some girl comes along so you're have a reason to be happy.You're not "missing" anything. The only thing that's wrong is you thinking that something is wrong. Other than a lack of knowledge about how attraction works for women,and you not having confidence in yourself,you're good to go.

Well,unless you want to go another 5 years with no progress,You need to indentify EXACTLY what your problems are. I guarantee you that there's no problem that you can come up with that this board and it's members won't be able to solve. Although the things you learn from the seminar are correct,the same material can be learned here for free.

In my opinion,you're problem is simple:It's a lack of knowledge. That's it.

This situation you find yourself in is not unique. Everybody at some point struggles with this. Don't worry,there is a way out of this maze.

Peace man.
I think your advice is 100% spot on, but the problem with him and many others is they don't feel they should even try to make themselves better and understand women if they have tried for the last 5, 10, 15 years, and they have seen little or no results, while others guys, who understand how attraction works and have the natural ability to get laid anytime, only have to cough or sneeze or say hi to a girl and the girl will get weak knees and give them sex. It's this unfair part of life that has many members upset and angry at women, and has had them give up on themselves.

I think he and other members may also be frustrated and are looking for special help because they think getting women should be a result of the things you're doing or like a business transaction. If you told the members on here who have trouble getting a girl or sex: "If you workout for the next 3 months, dress better, and be funnier, it be guaranteed that you will get laid by at least a HB7", everyone would do it. Of course women and life doesn't work this way, and if people who have trouble in this aspect don't see results instantly, or have tried all of the above and have been shut down constantly, they don't see the point of trying again, give up, get lazy, get AFC, or do drastic things to make a change.

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muhuwahaha said:
Maxtro forget everything PUA's and stop spending your money on seminars.

From your posts I gather that your problem is that you have weak body language and are afraid to talk.

Read the threads I've created in the past if you don't remember me. We come from the same background and are very alike. Trust me when I say this: you absolutely need to fix your body language before you do ANYTHING else. You sound just like my cousin, and he gets **** all the time behind his back because he seems so weak. It's gotten to the point where we feel sorry for him...
I haven't spent money on a seminar since I did a RSD workshop 4 or 5 years ago.

I don't know if my body language is the culprit but I am 100% that talking is my greatest weakness. What makes things extremely difficult for me is that I tend to jumble my words when I'm excited or nervous or just want to talk quickly. It is so fucking annoying. Can you imagine what must be going on in somebodies head when they there is a good chance they won't be able to say what they really want to? I'm currently looking for help from my university. If I don't get this problem fixed it's going to have a huge negative impact in all areas of my life down the line.

When I am calm and feeling OK I actually like to talk to people. I love long conversations with girls. But if I can't figure out how to get her to open up and do most of the talking I'm screwed. I actually had a friend of chick friend of mine stop talking to me and just walk away and stand next to another friend of hers when I was talking to her. I know why too, I bored her. I like this girl but I simply don't have a clue how to get her interested.

My biggest fault is not being able to lead a conversation to go where I want.

DonJuan11,
I know I need to improve myself. That's why I made this thread. I am actively trying to make myself better. I do have a problem with not being focused and trying too many things at once. I do a little bit of thing "A" then try a little bit of "B" then a little bit of "C" and so on. The reason is simple. I'm lost and need guidance. I've been trying this on my own for many years and it's obvious how far it's gotten me. I need a master, mentor or something.

Right now, I need to see some signs that I'm improving. I'm tired of having interactions with women that leave me feeling empty and needing more. I love my Social Dance class because it's constant interaction with girls. As soon as that class is over I go from feeling like a 9 to a 4. LOL it seems like I'm addicted to women always looking for my next high.
 
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