I need a ******** translator/PUA...

[DJatNewYork]

This girl is sending mixed signals, maybe she's playing games, maybe she's still unsure who she likes.

Background: We went out 4 times, kissed on the last 2 dates. She's a goody-good girl, so hard to make moves... I think I can get a lot more than a kiss though...

Last date was about 3 weeks ago, and it seems like we grew "cold" to each other. I work with this chick and I didn't really talk to her, ignored her, blah blah. I basically NEXT'ed this chick... but I think I can get a lot more than a kiss, so I'm going to pursue this.

Anyways, today I decided to flirt with her like I used to, and got very positive signs, and some "negative" signs also.

First, she was all jealous that I went out with another girl and asked me what I did with her, blah blah.

-She told me that I was "bad" with this slight smile, very good sign.

-She asked me if my "girlfriend" minds me flirting with other girls, I told her that "I didn't have a GF, nobody has the honors, yet"

-She's a goody-good girl, but she LOVES it when I talk dirty to her... and I mean having sex on the counter and all this crazy ****. I lick my lips and just crazy flirting with her, she responds very well.

-She agreed on another date...

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Negatives:

-I get very close to her and touch her, but about 20% of the time, she pulls away or acts disinterested... it's weird.

There is also this guy at my work who is interested in her, but I think he's in the friends zone. They laugh and joke around a lot, but this dude doesn't have the balls to ask her out, or talk dirty to her.

I make sure to show her my intentions with her, this guy doesn't. So I'm not really worried about him, but do you guys think he's ALREADY in the Friends Zone, or is she still deciding?

My question is, EVERYTIME I make her laugh/flirt with her, she grows very close to me and flirts with me too... but if I don't talk to her, she doesn't start flirting with me.

Next her or what? What are your thoughts on this chick fellas.

 

[DJDamage]

Originally posted by DJatNewYork
I get very close to her and touch her, but about 20% of the time, she pulls away or acts disinterested... it's weird.

Don't let chicks play games with you.

If you go out again and you want to get freaky and she pulls away, tell her you are taking her home. If she asks why tell her that you want to end the date early, "THIS DOESN'T FEEL RIGHT"

By putting your foot down she will know that its time to step up to the plate or lose you and you will probably get a good head out of it. If she protest then its more reasons to get rid of her and go out with other chicks who don't play games and c0cktease you.

Next!!

 

[penkitten]

sounds like she likes your attention

 

[DJatNewYork]

Yes, she does, but why does she sometimes act VERY interested, and then 2 secs later, not at all.

Shyness? Or does she trust me? She might view me as a "player", or someone trying to get into her pants?

It's hard to ignite the flames with original jokes and flirting EVERY day, while keeping it interesting. Catch my drift?

Today, what ignited back the flames was, me going-out with someone and that I became a "challenge" for her.

When I do ignite her flames though, she'll do ANYTHING I make her to do. This is why it's so confusing... she has like an on/off switch... :/

Girls... Girls...

 

[Badmannaz]

I i where in your situation i would do this

1.When at work just chill don't even approach her make her come to you

2.you gotta stop playing games with her....she's sounding like an AW if i where you get another girl in your life...smile at work and tell her about the other girl

now at this time if she doesn't respond and doesn't flirt with you for awhile after neglecting her than i would all together next her

but for her being the AW she is she's gonna be like "what's wrong" now here comes step Three

3.If you want her..get her alone and ask like a real man would "where do me and you stand right now?" confront her on the subject of a possible relationship...and from then your on your own


but personally a wiseman once told me "never stick your pecker in your paycheck" You should stay away from women at work it always ends like sh^t but it's your world!!!!

 

[strong like bull]

i agree with djdamage.

first off, bottom line:
if a girl does not like to be touched by you, she wont like being kissed by you. and if she doesnt like being kissed by you, she definately wont like...

see where im going?

physical, intimate contact cuts right to the point. in regards to "attraction" or "interest" all bull**** is eliminated. you can talk dirty (which sometimes can MESS UP your game with a "goody goody" girl with morals) and flirt all you want, but have her pull back from the kiss. yet if she really digs you, you can keep it physical and hardly ever talk, and she'll love being intimate with you.

my room mate and i sometimes play a game called "20 words or less" when were out drinking at a bar or party. we'll pick out a girl, and see how far, physically we can get while only saying to her, 20 words or less. trust me when i say its suprising how far you can get in under 20 words.

and while drunken sluts arent the same challenge as goody goodies, the point stands. bottom line, regardless of how funny and flirty you guys are, unless shes down with your TOUCH, shes probably not very attracted. you can be VERBALLY flirty if you want, thats "optional." but being PHYSICALLY "flirty," being intimate, having her feel the chemistry between the two of you... thats NOT optional. that is the requirement!

secondly... this all reminds me of one of my first girlfriends. i made a LOT of painful mistakes with her. i learned from them... but by the time i had learned, id lost her.

like in your case, i worked with this girl. we'll call her V.

Background: We went out 4 times, kissed on the last 2 dates. She's a goody-good girl, so hard to make moves... I think I can get a lot more than a kiss though...

V was a goody-goody too. a daddys girl, true and true. morally strong. she was actually a bit naive to because of how sheltered and protected she was by her family. that had its drawbacks.

also, being a goody goody, requires some more from us. i found that to win those girls over, youve got to make strong moves. my girl had a lot of doubt and worries, or didnt want to go against her "morals." when i foolishly waited for her to make a move, i failed. but when i grabbed her and led the way to a kiss, makeout or whatever else, shed follow. she was willing, but i think from her upbringing, she needed a confident, strongwilled man to show her the way.

Last date was about 3 weeks ago, and it seems like we grew "cold" to each other. I work with this chick and I didn't really talk to her, ignored her, blah blah. I basically NEXT'ed this chick... but I think I can get a lot more than a kiss, so I'm going to pursue this.

ACT NOW! THINK LATER!

the BIGGEST mistake i made with my girl was waaaiting and thinking when i should have been acting! when she first started working with me, the night i met her... i was struck with an attraction that i dont feel from many girls. her long, soft, wavy hair, her full dark eyes, her tanned, olive oil skin... her petite waist and juicy hips, ass and thighs... i was struck!

i started off with flirty talk. that went good. after a couple shifts together, her attention was sky high. i could really tell she was vibing me. she made (what i can now see as) obvious signs that she wanted me to ask her out... and so what did i do?

i talked more!
i kept flirting!
i kept making sexual innuendo!

even better (yeah right) i flirted with other girls, in FRONT of her!

bottom line is i didnt ask her out. we worked together for a long time and i dated other girl co-workers, who she knew, instead of dating her.

There is also this guy at my work who is interested in her, but I think he's in the friends zone. They laugh and joke around a lot, but this dude doesn't have the balls to ask her out, or talk dirty to her.

I make sure to show her my intentions with her, this guy doesn't. So I'm not really worried about him, but do you guys think he's ALREADY in the Friends Zone, or is she still deciding?

ACT ACT ACT!

in between dating other girls, i still had the hots for V but didnt make my move on her. instead, one of the cooks in the back got his chance. he was some kid same age as me at the same, and i figured him for a chump. he was such a nice guy that i thought of him as an AFC. but somehow they hit it off and started going out. they didnt last long... but it made me learn one thing:

if you see a girl you want, MAKE HER YOURS! do it before someone else does!

unlike the guy you and i worked with who might be AFC, theres some real SHARKS out there. you could be at the bar with your girlfriend and as soon as you get up to use the restroom, some dudes gonna try to pick up your chick. god forbid, you arent even dating the girl. regardless of how good of "friends" you and the girl are, or how close you are to asking her out.. he'll fvck her on top of your car if he got the chance.

My question is, EVERYTIME I make her laugh/flirt with her, she grows very close to me and flirts with me too... but if I don't talk to her, she doesn't start flirting with me.

Next her or what? What are your thoughts on this chick fellas.

after about a year of working with her, i finally asked her out. my over-the-top and too-much-C&F flirting with other girls, all over the restaurant got to be so rediculous that V didnt even seem to take me seriously. i overdid it with so many girls that she couldnt tell if i was telling the truth or "flirting." because of how long i waited and how much bull**** TALKING i did, she was even reluctant to accept my date!

i believe her exact words were... "i dont know..."

a lot of the wild party girls ive met, really dig the heavy ****y/funny/slightly arrogant attitude. but a lot of the nice girls ive met are turned off by it. what ive learned to be best for me, is keep it light and charming, maybe a little c&f, but as soon as you can get intimate, drop the jokes and be more of strong, charming guy. i learned that i do great when i talk with my eyes and facial expressions... talk to her with my touch. get intimate!

eventually we did start going out. at first it was slow goings. believe it was 2nd or 3rd date that i went in for the first kiss. i was too much of a puss to try it on the first. always try on the first.

as we grew closer, she actually became even more attracted to me. i had really started to win her over. at about 2 months she asked me to be exclusive. after this point i made some fatal mistakes...

1.) she was finally down to give her virginity to me. but i was too scared to go further than making out and heavy petting - i was a virgin too. i didnt make the strong moves and make her mine like i should have.

2.) got too needy with her. got jealous over little nothings that didnt even matter.

3.) bailed out cause i thought the grass was greener. but at the point i bailed, i could tell she was losing interest too.

well i found out that even though ive grown up a lot since then, she was a good catch. i had a lot of other women since then and regret none of them... and ive gained a lot of experience. the kind of experience that now i can look back and see where i went wrong, and what kind of strength you need to have as a man. dealing with life in general, not just women. overcoming insecurities and the kind of doubt that makes you hesitant and weak.


decide right now what you want out of a woman. go out with her. is she what you want? if you have a great time with her, make her yours. strongly and quickly. if not... let her go. another woman is just around the corner. and if you dont know what it is that you want... keep living life and going through women. i can say that after dating 6 girls and sleeping with 4 - three of them being one night stands/fvck buddies - i have a damn good idea of the kind of girl i want in my life. much more than when i started out 3 years ago, with V.

make the strong move...
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