i met her tonight, she's into me BUT.. gold diggerish tendencies

[pete101]

with the facebook chick who flaked on me twice with silly excuses

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?t=222060

http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?p=2206291&posted=1

i met her tonight in the end, i followed what other people said by just replying 'ok' to her text last time but i caved in and said 'im visiting friends in your area tomorrow, are you coming to meet me for a drink at 7 tomorrow?' she agreed etc etc. we met she was into me but.. this happened:

she is into me physically, constantly kino'ing me from the start BUT there's some issues, because she's in a rich part of town and old.. in 40s i reck she's used to 'gentleman' old men who pay for sh1t.. she sussed me out.. im not rich by far of imagination i got one drink for her.. she asked for another, instead of me saying 'ok' i questioned it 'do you want another drink?' she said 'of course you invited me out for a drink!' she sensed then i was being tight (when really i'm tryna save cash as i can't afford her expensive tastes - but no excuse really, couple drinks isn't gona break the bank)

then she said to me outside walking arm in arm 'i dont like tight men..' i said 'i like generous women' with a big smile.. she said 'which way?' i said 'this way' pointing up the road.. but she meant generous in what way? i said 'both ways' and grinned.. she laughed and said i was naughty. the mistake i made was i suggested to bring sushi to hers next time.. she said 'ok but i want alcohol too, i like gifts, i like being treated well, i like flowers' i dont drink alcohol but my dad gets lots of alcohol from clients that's stocked up so free booze i can use.. im so stupid, i shouldn't have said 'i'll check what we have at home' she said 'dont be tight'.. then she suggested i get a cab back to hers then go back to my car (she's too lazy to walk in heels) basically she expected me to pay for her cab like a true 'gentleman' might.. especially those around her parts.

it shouldn't be surprise that she knows women in the area who 'hook' .. so she makes money being a madam from time to time settign up her hot friends with rich old guys to have sex and what not.. i imagine she must have hooked in the past too hence her 'dont like tight men' thing.. it's just coincidence she's physically attracted to me as i'm her racial type. i'm on the fence what to do.. she agreed to me coming round with sushi and we watch tv together but she wants other free shii, flowers and alcohol and dessert is no big deal, i have a 5$ online service thing that''ll send flowers, that might keep her sweeet and shut her up that i haven't 'treated' her right. she text me when she got home saying it was nice meeting me and kisses everywhere. now this maybe a mistake but i thought it's better i framed it this way, in my response text i told her i think she misinterpreted when i said where i live 'near x place' she assumed i was rich when im not, so it prob was a DLV i told her where i lived and i'm not rich like the guys she's used to but i promised to spend what i could. (i felt framing it this way would at least not let her think.. ok he lives in a rich area why is he being tight.. as opposed to, im just not rich and moderate income. i felt the latter was better for my position as she's physically into me.. the whole lover/provider category.. i rather she bracket me as a lover not provider)

 

[pete101]

i asked for her address and to expect a delivery in the next few days (im gona do the 5$ flower delivery to her door thing, might win me some brownie points) and suggest to come round next time.. because she has me sussed out and will rinse me if we're out. she give me the address, i take a shower come back she's left another text with all kisses.. then again about 10mins apart telling me she's watching latin tv (i said i wanted to watch latin tv with her - that's where the whole sushi come round thing came about)

she obv wanted my attention because she sent 3 texts back to back 10 mins apart and i wasn't responding (maybe a test to see if im out with another girl) so i text her back saying i wanted to watch latin tv with her with a wink. she text me back just now 'sure soon babe xxx'

so basically she's into my physically but wants to be treated a certain way.. i dont have the funds to take her out (no excuse really, even for normal chicks you need some seed money to date.. no excuses from me really need to get my act together) i think it was smart on my part to say i wasn't rich so at least she doesn't put me into provider category or thinks im being cheap and tight as oppose to not.

she just text me again sending me a pic of her wearing her glasses (i made a joke on the date that she looks like a sexy secretary) she text me: 'look your secretary private one haha'

basically she has high IL, and wants my attention. but is a gold digger/ex-escort/god knows what.

i dont have any options right now and if i have one interested this way being sexual with me. i think there's some element of her wanting it to cos she thinks im hot (but still wants to be 'treated' right).

i dont want her to get the impression i'm doing the cheap date thing (i am) or the inviting round to have sushi etc without etc shii, dessert alcohol etc.. not really excessive tbh i'm just being cheap cos i have a lack of funds and she's a traditional latina from south america where men always pay for everything. she clearly isn't gf material but what do i care.. a pound is a pound.. it might help me get more women, she's obv low quality but right now i dont care, as long as she isn't flaking last min like before i dont mind.. she seems set on turning me on.. wanting my attention, sending me pics.. all things you'd expect from an interested woman. punctual too, she arrived on time and gave me sh1t for being 2mins late and making her wait for 5 mins outside where we were suposed to meet cos i got the location confused.. i said meet outside the town hall, i thought it was the town hall entrance. she kept bringing it up again and again during the date.. seems tardiness is very high up her pet hates. least i can rely on her always being on time then.

am i likely to just get played or rinsed for nothing or does she genuinely seem interested? i know she finds me physically attractive but her personality is very demanding, gold diggerish.

 

[TheGambino]

lol f8ck her, don't spend sh1t, save your money bro don't spend it on hoes. been there done that even with very high interested women on bottles in clubs. sex in exchange.

pay for the first and maybe next date
rest of the dates 50/50 rule, just say it, hey we have to pay here (and you put half money on the table, what I do if the bill is 50euros for example I bring out 30euros and let her pay 20)

I was never blown off by a girl because I asked her to bring out cash aswel I think it even bring up my value and I got respected more by them because I asked. Most girls are used to men that pay and the golddiggers will take advantage of that.

I would only spend money on a valuable chick that loves me for me, your plate could be interested but she expects waaaaay too much lmao its funny

don't be stupid, keep spinning save your money

If she invests more, good sex, no flaking you can surprise her with a dinner or something u know. if she disrespects you, you withdraw attention

 

[mustfirstregister]

40 yo gold digger lol...next

 

[LMFAO]

Umm, you are deliberating sending a girl you haven't even fvcked flowers :nono: What the hell has she done to deserve it?

Invite her round to your place. No throwing money.

Yes means yes. No means delete her fvcking number and stop wasting your time on a gold digger with a dried up pvssy.

 

[pete101]

lol f8ck her, don't spend sh1t, save your money bro don't spend it on hoes. been there done that even with very high interested women on bottles in clubs. sex in exchange.

pay for the first and maybe next date
rest of the dates 50/50 rule, just say it, hey we have to pay here (and you put half money on the table, what I do if the bill is 50euros for example I bring out 30euros and let her pay 20)

I was never blown off by a girl because I asked her to bring out cash aswel I think it even bring up my value and I got respected more by them because I asked. Most girls are used to men that pay and the golddiggers will take advantage of that.

I would only spend money on a valuable chick that loves me for me, your plate could be interested but she expects waaaaay too much lmao its funny

don't be stupid, keep spinning save your money

If she invests more, good sex, no flaking you can surprise her with a dinner or something u know. if she disrespects you, you withdraw attention

thing is she seems ok with me coming round and watching tv with her provided i do more than 'just bring sushi' because i'm being too cheap.. that's exactly what i'm doing.. if i took her out i'd spend equivalent to 20-30$ this all in wouldn't cost me that much.. bottle of vodka, dessert, sushi 5$ flowers max $20.

i think she's caught in between that vibe of trying to get free sh1t and also wanting to be naughty with me because i'm physically her type...how long that attraction lasts who knows.

you're from holland tho and you have that saying 'going dutch' that won't apply to where i am with her.. she's south american they don't do 'half-half' split.. 'real men pay' is their saying.. i dont mind paying i just need to keep the cost down.

im not gona get her tables etc.. bottles of champagne no way. the smartest thing i did was say i dont earn a lot of money in not so direct way but will spend what i can.. cos frankly.. i am tight. even if you're not earning much you can afford $20-30 dollar dates a week.. i cant esp if i'm seeing more than 1.. that cost adds up, besides she's hardly wife material.. enjoy it while it lasts, im much younger than her.. i dont even think we swapped ages so maybe i should lie and say im younger than i am, then she may think i'm 'too young'

 

[pete101]

Umm, you are deliberating sending a girl you haven't even fvcked flowers :nono: What the hell has she done to deserve it?

Invite her round to your place. No throwing money.

Yes means yes. No means delete her fvcking number and stop wasting your time on a gold digger with a dried up pvssy.

i dont have my own place i live with my folks. she's my only option who's into me, i just feel it's good to have one potential plate who i have sex with to help with the confidence and desperation issue, i already feel more relaxed and a bit more confident because i potentially have her interested (going by her texts anyway and her sending me pics tonight)

she's hot though, i like older women, i like younger women.. im just happy to potentially have sex, im only sending them to keep her sweet and get some brownie points so she doesnt hassle me for more sh1t when it comes to bringing sushi to her next time i arrange a meet. i plan to bring sushi, bottle of alcohol from home, and some dessert. the flowers are only $5 dollars online promotion through the door. i understand what you're saying about she doesn't deserve flowers yet but hey it might stop her complaining about me being 'tight' for a bit.

 

[TheGambino]

Hmm I see, yes I can imagine south american women different culture. Dutch girls think it's normal to pay on dates aswel.

When I go on vacation in Morocco it's less likeley that she will pay her sh1t when we go out.

Just escalate when youre at her home, f8ck her good, f8ck her so good that she will love you for the sex, thats youre main objective now. She will want you to come over to feel good so that should be your weapon to keep her as a f8ckbuddy coz you already said it she aint wife material. So don't let her take advantage of you. If you f8ck her she will be emotionally more in2 you which results in more respect and she will be less demanding and doing more stuff for you. Switch roles by not doing what she says, be a valuable man and be about your business.

In the meantime keep the costs low like your doing. most important thing you have to escalate to sex asap like i said

 

[Jaylan]

Op... Please retrieve your nuts from this woman's purse.

 

[pete101]

My thoughts in bold


No ifs ands or buts, she is going to milk you if you let her. Walk away

thing irony is she's physically attracted to me, i'm her type racially and physically everything.. but at same time her gold digging tendencies come into play when she gets too excited.. i let her touch my chest during the date and she was like 'ooh..' getting all excited trying to control herself (i know she didn't fake it to be a gold digger she genuinely is attracted to me)

is there no play here at all where i can use her physical attraction for me to get what i want?

i made a mistake last night of being too available and keen when she text me, i gave away too much power and not a challenge to her. so now she's more lukewarm. i asked when would be a good night to come round, she said 'soon babe.. xx' basically a brush off.. she knows i want sex, but if she senses i only want sex then her gold digging thing kicks in tryna milk me, im not stupid i'm gona only give it 1-2 more meets, cinema 2 for 1 tomorrow night i suggested (didn't tell her it's 2 for 1) that'll cost me about $12, im not gona buy her refreshments even if she asks and see if i can get back to hers, she said she'll let me know tomorrow, i should have declined but i said let me know by tomorrow morning otherwise i'll have made other plans (i already said i was busy tues and thurs - it might help a bit with the eagerness from yesterday maybe she'll wonder what im doing) if i dont make any headway next time i'll walk away.. if i sense i need one more meet then i'll do it, but no dinner, only drinks locally at a pub and i'll call her out every time if she says 'i dont like tight men' with 'i dont like tight women..' with a smirk and telling her to do stuff for me.

 

[Between_The_Lines]

i'll call her out every time if she says 'i dont like tight men' with 'i dont like tight women..' with a smirk and telling her to do stuff for me.

That's funny, I thought most men liked tight women ...I know I do...

Jokes aside, you're handling a black widow of a woman, and you want her to play nice with you? Abort this mission before it aborts you.

"Watch out boy she'll chew you up"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbevQH1B9ic

 

[Skyline]

Well...

Since she's SOOO used to getting guys, richer dumb guys, to do what she wants and since you're not rich but indeed a guy and you're not doing what she wants because you're not drowning in cash to p*ss away... She's either an actual gold digger or just used to getting what she wants from weak men. Lets assume the latter and throw long term standards out the window, you just want to get laid right now. And that can definitely happen with this girl. She obviously finds you attractive and since you can't, literally can't, fulfill her requests that require money that automatically gives you a stronger frame than normal. You're also telling her no with indifference. Now if she shows more interest after you've said no then she may not be a gold digger. But if she gets all p*ssed when you say no then she's probably a digger.

So the advantage you have is: she finds you attractive and that you have the ability to say no to her.

Those are traits of a lover but your FRAME is still everything at this point. Maintaining that attraction is the issue here and that weak behavior you're doing, ask her out on dates while ON a date and being too available... Is really going to be the end of you.

Heres what I recommend:

1. Stop being so available. I would only contact her on date offers which should be offered at least once a week for a yes and every other week for a no. You can text her every now and then about something funny but keep it brief. And no asking dates while ON a date... Mystery factor bruh.

2. When ON a date with her escalate as far as you can but not all at once. Be smooth and a little bit of a tease.

3. Keeping saying no to her with indifference while escalating.

4. Spin plates.


Like I said she could be a gold digger or a girl just used to guys bending to her will. It's like the sappy rich girl likes the poor guy, she likes him because he ain't got the deep pockets to say yes- which is a good thing!

 

[pete101]

That's funny, I thought most men liked tight women ...I know I do...

Jokes aside, you're handling a black widow of a woman, and you want her to play nice with you? Abort this mission before it aborts you.

"Watch out boy she'll chew you up"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbevQH1B9ic

it's fine, 1-2 more dates max, 1 more meet max if i don't make any head way no pun intended i'm gona abort, i'm prepared to spend another 20$ on this she has nice fake boobs and enhanced lips, bl0wjob must be nice from that. novelty factor really.

im just wary she'll take the p1ss and order everything on the menu if i go to dinner, so that's out of the question.. if we go cinema i bet she'll want refreshments sweets, im saying no and telling her to do something nice for me if she gets stroppy and threatens to leave i'll be like ok cool i'll call some other pretty girl to have my other ticket and wont complain. and see how she reacts, not taking anything she says seriously. it's about time i controlled the frame more and not let stroppy women push me about passive aggressively.

 

[Masculinity]

Latina women being used to men paying for everything is a stereotype. All that exists, regardless of race, is entitled females who think men ought to buy them stuff for the mere fact of having a vagina.

If you haven't noticed, you're becoming her puppet. She tells you what you should and shouldn't do. And you're being the nice chihuahua lap dog jumping around and going through her loops. Flowers are super cheesy and scream that you're an AFC who cannot do any better.

If you really want to know what a milf is like, then bang her. The good thing is she's probably already in menopause, so that thing is literally dry. Lastly, cut all the lovey dovey b.s. You should pursue young women. They are just as likely to be entitled, but at least the pvssy is young and wet. In addition, they're still figuring themselves out, so malleability is higher, whereas you can't teach an old dog new tricks.

Go over to her house and pound her senseless if you're curious. It sounds like you haven't had sex in a while. Move on to better prospects afterwards. I am curious: How old are you?

 

[hockeyfreak79]

I've dated a Latina that was the exact opposite! Dude!!! you give a f*ck waaay to much for f*cks sake. This will not be the last time you meet a broad like this. Stop wasting your time & $$ it's pathetic. Waay too invested way to fast.....smh

 

[pete101]

Let us know how it turns out. Padlock your wallet

i'll give up on sunday and walk away, she didn't text me about cinema tonight to let me know, bad practise. and i'll be in her area on sunday visiting friends so will do the drinks thing again but she appears to be regressing back into a flake (she cancelled the first 2 days remember) mistake i made was replying swiftly on monday.. should have known it was a test to see how keen i was.. her IL plummeted after that back into a flake (the night after date she was super responsive and catering).

if she declines my drinks on sunday i'll leave it, there's no point.

 

[pete101]

well the situation now is that i've lost a little bit of power and she's controlling more of the frame, doesn't do what i want isn't agreeable to my suggestions.. my fault really for being too keen the next day. anyway what's done is done. would it be better if i skip asking her for drinks this sunday? my plan was to text her to let her know i'm going to be in her area for dinner with friends on sunday and we should go for drinks again and i'll pick her up from hers at 8pm. seeing how she's regressed back into a flaky thing i suspect she'll give me the same 'i'll let you know tomorrow' text (to see what else she has going on) or she may actually say yes then flake.. or say yes and show. like you guys say she prob wants free drinks or just to be taken out.. if im not out with her i cant f her. given she has more power in this situation should i skip it and wait till next week to make a suggestion? i.e. go ghost.. would that aid my chances of f'ing her? (bear in mind she's into me physically and might find it difficult to say no if i start feeling her up etc - her golddigging tendencies may kick in tho like i haven't 'earnt' it yet- f that.)

i feel that when i removed my attention last week when she flaked, she was more agreeable on sunday when i said to meet like it was her last chance.. i framed it that way.. that's why she didn't flake. but now because she thinks she has me and no longer a challenge she's less commital. i know the game is to remove my attention and be lukewarm when she does contact but it requires patience over weeks and weeks, in the mean time i'm looking for new plates because i can sense i'm getting oneitis and im naturally impatient anyway so may do something silly.

or would i be better off just suggesting drinks and if she gives me anything other than a yes tell her 'in that case i cant make it, we'll choose a time when you're more sure of your plans' then go ghost.. would that work? i know she will check in on me to see if im still interested but at the same time i reck she'll just be satisfied she milked me for a couple free drinks. i feel like if i ignore her enough.. maybe flake on her too she'll have to up the ante and invite me over to watch tv as she originally agreed.. as in the fear that she's losing/lost me may kick in her need for validation.. win win for me.. i wont be spending anything if i go over.. but i need to make sure i delay it enough otherwise she'll just flake again last min. would her thinking im seeing other women affect whether she feels she should do what i want and put out in case she loses me? i sense she doesn't really care either way.

 

[pete101]

My opinions below.

she's into me physically.. i did escalate.. i tried kissing her.. she let me kiss her lips but wouldn't open her mouth.. she's holding out rationing the pu$$y.. i tried kissing her neck, i made several sexual suggestions when we were drinking whispering in her ear that me and her can have a lot of good work outs (she said she was going to gym the next day) in a sexual way.

walking arm in arm just told me she was attracted to me.. but she also gave me the whole 'i dont like tight men' speech.. and 'dont be tight' dont forget she tried to get me to take a cab to hers and back to my car.. she wanted a free cab.. not an excuse to invite me back to hers.. im not falling for it.

 

[LMFAO]

Tell her to sort you out with an escort.

That's the only pu$$y you're going to get from this. :crackup:

 

[pete101]

My opinions below.

i did the flowers things and it just so happened that the name of the flowers actually was her name.. so i gained a couple brownie points i did feel afc for doing it because she asked for it.. as in she's controlling me.. esp now i told her to do something nice for me.. she said 'ok haha' yesterday but when i pushed her for it.. no response.. there's my answer.. she thanked me for the flowers today i said it was the same name as hers and she should do something nice for me. she just responded with 'haha' i was more direct and text back 'so what are you going to do for me? describe it to me i want to hear the details..'

she just gives me a fob off of 'babe im very busy now' BS she's at home all day.. this is why im reluctant to ask her for drinks again this weekend.. but after what you said maybe i should even with a risk of 'i'll let you know tomorrow answer' i've learnt to no bother contacting her for a date few days in advance, day before is sufficient. her IL isn't high enough anymore so i'll have to rely on her physical attraction for me in person and escalate rub her pu$$y over her clothes etc.. because she can sense im only after sex with my approach.. she's withdrawing and trying to get as much free sh1t as possible. anyway im not going to ask her out anymore after the next time.. no more chasing.