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Very quick summary for lazy people who can't be bothered to read the details, girl I've been friends with for a while, getting on very well recently but I don't really think she's interested, then out of the blue I get a slow deliberate "I love you" followed by an awkward pause where I say nothing and she starts talking about what a great friend I am.. all a bit of a head f*ck for me.. I need to work out whether I actually want her.. and if I do, work out the best way to restart that conversation and conclude in the right way ;) Anyway the details, in my usual boring long rambling style..

This is all related to a post from a few weeks back here: http://www.sosuave.net/forum/showthread.php?threadid=79707, quick summary of it, girl I used to go to uni with, didn't know that well, then she moved to my city and we started hanging out alot, she started saying how much she loved hanging out with me and stuff leading me to think maybe I can get something going.

Anyway, there were no developments, then last week she started telling me about some guy she'd met, and asking me advice about where she should take him and stuff, at first I was a bit pissed off, then I thought screw it, she obviously only wants to be friends and decided I'd forget trying to sort something out with her. I went out on friday and chatted to a couple of girls and hooked up with one on the dancefloor, "there we go" I thought, I don't need her, and I was pretty happy with things. Then on saturday me and my flatmate met up with her to go to this club, before we got there she started talking about how this guy she's started seeing wasn't actually that great, and she was put off by him saying "I never believed in love at first sight, till now" after the first time they slept together...Still, I was still not really worrying about trying to get on with her or anything. The evening carried on, we were all on the dancefloor for a bit then we got bored and decided to go back to the bar, my flatmate got seperated from us and me and this girl ended up alone in the clubs outdoor garden area. We weren't really talking about anything much, just what we thought of the club, then there was a lull in the conversation, and she turns to me and says "I love you tom". No one outside of my family has ever said that to me, not like that, it was slow and deliberate.. there was a pause, long enough for it to be obvious that I wasn't going to say it back and in fact that I didn't have a f*ck*ng clue what to say.. and she started talking about, you're one of my best friends, I'm glad we're getting on so well etc. I mumble something about how I like what a good friend she is (my brain is still trying to take stock of what she said) and then a bouncer shows up to try and move us inside.

So bollocks, I thought she wasn't interested and decided I wouldn't bother, then she comes out with that and it gets me wondering again. I thought about all the reasons any girl says something like that without meaning it properly..
1) Was I being pathetic and whiny and self pitying and she was trying to make me feel better? No.
2) Was she upset or being neurotic and I'd been saying stuff to her to make her feel better? No.
3) Had she done something wrong and was trying to apologise and get back in my good books? No.
4) Was it part of a friendly hello/goodbye or jokey conversation? No.
Which leads me to the conclusion that it was planned and premeditated, there was a long enough silence before she said it for her to think, "Do I want to say this? yes I do." So she definitely means it. But in what context?... We have been getting on really well lately so maybe she does feel something and was trying to get me to reveal what I'm thinking or make a move, If I hadn't been so shocked I'd have made a move probably.. But alot of her behaviour doesn't fit with a girl who fancies me, she was talking about this guy and asking for advice.. and there are a couple of times when I've suggested meeting up and she's not taken the bait despite not being busy, plus times when we've been out and about and she's paid me noticably less attention than other people present..
I think the thing is neither of us is really sure what we want, and we're both seeing large chunks of what we want in the opposeite sex in each other, just not the whole picture.. I know she is a little too needy and neurotic than I'd like, and I think I'm not quite alpha male enough for her, but I dunno maybe I'm just being paranoid...
Anyway, when we were back inside the club she apologised for being tired and suggested she come over saturday evening for a quiet night in.. I know you're all thinking wahey you're in! But my flatmate (who is friends with her too) will be in, and she knows that.. so why didn't she just invite me over to hers? I dunno. Anyway this is the next time I'll be seeing her so we'll see what happens.
 

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I was never good at summarising stuff, always ran out of time in english exams.. I just end up rambling.. but those are pretty significant words, this could be a milestone in my life.

here's another try..

girl I'm good friends with told me quite slowly and seriously "I love you".. then after a pause (where I'm sure she saw my jaw hit the floor) started saying about what a good friend I am..

Did she mean it romantically? If so what the f*ck do I do.. If I decide I want her, how best to get her back on the subject and then into my bed?
 

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she's mind f*cking you.

or rather, she's mind f*cking herself and using you to do it.

this girl doesn't know what she wants.
she's a player.

if she were MATURE and NOT playing games, she's say "i love you." then follow it up with "so what do you think of that?"

she wouldnt just move on as if she hadn't said anything.

play with her at your own risk dude. she dumped some guy she just banged cuz he said he loved her. what makes you think shes not going to do the same thing to you once you sleep together (or worse, start ragging on you or whatever else.)

i smell trouble!
J
 

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oh forgot to add.

no she didnt mean it romantically.

if she had she would have wanted a response back from you.

she's trying to say 'your the most important man in my life right now' and to her that means 'love'.

until you start spending time with her and banging her, then she'll start to neglect your presence and treat you like dirt.

anyway, as i said in previous post, trouble.
J
 

Just because a woman listens to you and acts interested in what you say doesn't mean she really is. She might just be acting polite, while silently wishing that the date would hurry up and end, or that you would go away... and never come back.

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Don't put feelings on the line here.A chick can love you like a life raft(use you to drift along till she finds her island).But not be in love with you.Just watch out she isnt mistaking comfort zone with you, for love.Watch her actions.Dont let her throw you into a mind **** around other women.You owe her nothing but friendship at this stage.Let her worry about it ,and chase you.
 

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I thinkyou both hit the naill on the head..

On the one hand she talks about how much it pisses her off when guys start saying they love her and talk about the future, but on the other one of her big topics of conversation is how much she wants a relationship and all the magical romantic things she wants out of it..

Now from the way she's been talking I can tell I tick alot of the boxes, but from the way she's been acting I obviously don't tick em all. Incidentally I also think that the way I feel about her is simialr to what she's thinking about me, she IS the most important woman in my life at the moment, I care about her alot, but I don't love her and I know her well enough to know that a LTR probably wouldn't work and once we started spending loads more time together/having sex I'd lose interest. But its a great ego boost having her around paying me compliments and flattery and stuff and we both tend to help each other out when we're feeling stressed or down... So I guess I really ought to leave her well alone.. but, when I've had a few beers, I start thinking with my d*ck about how hot she is.. and so on.. Like her, I don't really know what I want.. the girl of my dreams isn't around so I'm transferring feelings onto her... Maybe she's doing the same to me.

Also I think she was hoping for some sort of response from me (I don't know what though) because after the pause she did seem a bit flustered and not sure what to say.. She was trying to carry on like it wasn't important but it obviously was.

Anyway, I should leave it, but part of me says why pass up this opportunity.. you've screwed up so much in the past, don't let this one go.. aaarrggghhhh.. safest solution is meet someone else.. but I know I'll still be tempted next time I see her.

We're each others life rafts at the moment.. meaning when one of us does find something the other one is gonna be mighty p*ssed off, bolllocks.
 

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If you can fu@ck with no emotion go ahead.But the problems that come with it are a pain.What happens if you get attached even more then you already are.And she finds someone else and ****s them.Why risk wasting emotion in a few months time on a chick you are not that into.In your mind its an easy lay atm because its right there.Dont get lazy and go the easy option that turns into hell.
 

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Originally posted by hithard
If you can fu@ck with no emotion go ahead.
I'm can't say for sure, but I'm pretty sure I can't.. However with the aid of our good friend alcohol I can see us both getting drunk tomorrow night and maybe end up in bed together.. Basically I'm thinking about it too much now so I doubt I'll end up making a move.. but if she jumps me I can't see myself saying no.. I know its a bad idea, but when you don't see any opportunities coming along on the horizon you can't help but be tempted.. I'm starting to develop this big complex too about all the opportunities I've missed and screwed up in the past and I can see this just adding to it.. Who knows..
 
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